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Fort Collins,CO,

Member Since:

May 15, 2003

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

Unaided PR's:
5K: 14:48 (Track - 2001)
10K: 30:45 (Track - 2001)
10K: 31:32 (Bolder Boulder - 2013)
Half Marathon: 1:06:09 (Duluth - 2013)
Marathon: 2:17:54 (Grandma's) - 2014)
Marathon: 2:19:47 (Indianapolis Monumental - 2013)
Marathon: 2:19:49 (Indianapolis Monumental - 2010)

Aided PR's:
10K: 29:38 (Des News - 2011)
Half Marathon: 1:05:30 (TOU Half - 2011)
Marathon: 2:18:09 (St George - 2007)
Marathon: 2:17:35 (Boston - 2011)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis in June of 2008. Started taking Enbrel in March, 2009.

Run as much as I can, and race as well as I can. Make the most of however much time I have left as an able-bodied runner.

Training for the 2018 Colorado Marathon

Long-Term Running Goals:

  Run until I'm old, and then run some more. Stand tall.

Personal:

1 wife, 2 kids. 1 cat. Work as a GIS Specialist/Map Geek

Endure and persist; this pain will turn to your good. - Ovid

Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us. - Romans 5:1-5

 

 

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Race: USU Faldmo Invite 5000m (track) (3.108 Miles) 00:15:27, Place overall: 2
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.900.000.003.100.0018.00

AM - easy shakeout run on the canal trail. 7.5 miles, no watch. It's going to be a warm one today, 70+! The 5000m is at 3PM.

noon - mowed the lawn. Got on the roof to tinker with the swamp cooler.

PM - went to Utah State for the Mark Faldmo track meet. I had signed up for the 5000m as an open runner. This was my first track race in 9 years, so I was a little nervous. Fortunately, it's a pretty low-key invite.

Got there early in case the meet was running fast, and indeed it was ahead by about 30 minutes. I warmed up for 2 miles, used the potty, etc etc. The 200m finished, but then it took a while to get the women's 5000m going, and then finally it was our turn.

There were only 7 runners that ran the race, but one of them was Brian McKenna, Utah State's top runner. He's the WAC xc champ, and made nationals this fall. He recently ran 14:30 for 5K on the track, so definitely my superior at this distance. Fortunate for me, he'd already run the 1500m, so was not fresh. Unfortunately to me, I suck at the 5000m, and was at the end of an 80 mile week.

Chatted with Brian before the race, and we agreed to trade some laps and try to run 72s/lap. I was actually a bit dubious of my ability to do this, with lack of speed work, plus an intense sun with temps in the low 70s, and a decent wind going into the backstretch. Conditions were less than ideal for a distance race. But I figured my options were to run with McKenna, or run by myself, so I chose the former. I tried to alleviate the heat some by dunking my head in the steeple pit right before the race. Felt great at the time, but I was bone dry by the 3rd lap.

Gun went off and about 4 of us packed up quick for the first 200m, but then I managed to get around everyone and tuck in behind McKenna. First lap was a 74-75 or so, which was too slow, plus it felt awful. McKenna and I cleared out the pack on the 2nd lap, and were through the 800m in about 2:25, so about a 70s split. Quite a bit faster, but it actually felt good.

After 800m, I took the pacing duties for the next two laps, and we hit 4:50 at the mile. Pace was feeling hard, but sustainable for the time being. Brian took the lead back (and I was grateful to tuck back in and let him take the wind), and we hit a couple more 72-73's for the next two laps.

At just less than halfway through, I started feeling...less than good, and McKenna dropped me pretty quick. He kept running 72-73s laps, and I dropped back to 75s/lap. I went through 3200m in 9:46, so 4:56 for the 2nd mile. This drop in speed is the 5K equivalent to a death rattle.

McKenna was soon on the verge of being long gone, and I was fast wilting from the heat and from fatigue. Man, it was hot! My left calf, which had been giving me trouble for the last 10 days, decided that 2 miles was enough, and started misbehaving with 4 laps to go. It hurt, but not too bad, and I was able to deal with it. So it goes.

Lap 9 was a 76, and then a 77. Things were going downhill, but at least I was close enough to sense the finish and find some hope in that. McKenna now was approaching a 100m lead on me, and no one was close to me from behind. I was about to lap a couple runners, though. I didn't grab splits for the last two laps, but they were about the same as the previous two, in the 76s range. I just gritted to the finish the best I could. 15:27 was the finish time (McKenna was 15:05), which means my last mile was something like a 5:05. I was never great at finishing track 5K's.

So it wasn't an amazing race or anything, but I came out of it fairly satisfied with both the time and the effort. It was good for me to try to run with a national-caliber collegiate runner, and the heat, wind, and elevation certainly tinkered with my time some. I would have liked to have been in the low 15's, but I have to take what I can get on the given day. It was a little discouraging to run slower than my solo First Dam Run effort last November, but I know I'm actually way ahead of where I was then. I still think that sub-1:07 is still worth going after in Indianapolis, and hopefully the next several weeks of training, plus sea level, plus better conditions, plus a little more moxie will allow me to click off 5:05/mile for 13.1 miles. We'll see.

Went to the Logan Zoo with Stacy and Seth afterward, and then I grabbed 5 more miles when we got home to finish out my week. The calf hurt, but was runnable.

The next two weeks of training are big for me. I plan on two 85 mile weeks, with two good workouts each week. I hope it's all worth it, because training is hard work.

Saucony Type A Miles: 3.50Saucony Guide TR Miles: 7.50Brooks Adrenaline 10 Miles: 7.00
Comments
From Jon on Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 13:43:38 from 75.169.140.47

Kick some collegiate trash!

From Scott Ensign on Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 22:37:50 from 67.40.116.131

great adventure, way to beat all those college kids. with the heat and all that time sounds pretty incredible to me. wish I could have come and watched but other duties called. great job, good luck getting ready for Indy.

From josse on Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 22:42:34 from 75.252.127.132

Wow that is quite the day, put some ice on that calf and do some massage. Great race!!

From Fritz on Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 23:21:33 from 97.117.38.94

sounds intense. You would have beaten him with a good taper.

From Holt on Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 23:29:07 from 75.169.77.61

Track race - sounds absolutely hideous! Good job sticking in there. Were you able to watch Ruth run?

From Dale on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 08:47:28 from 198.134.92.34

Cool writeup and nice race. Especially after the whole lawn mowing thing.

From jtshad on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:14:56 from 69.20.183.178

Great race report. Good job running hard at the 5K and finishing off a big week (that kind of pace after a full day of activities...awesome). Good luck with the training and go get 'em in Indy!

From Superfly on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:04:34 from 208.117.127.110

I never knew reading a report about a 5000m could be so fun. I wouldn't be disappointed. Thats a great effort on that day. Like Dave said it sounds absolutely "hideous". If I have any future fixes to run a event on the track I'll just come reread your report and live vicariously through you... then add at least 20 seconds to time.

Anyways good job man. I'm really pumped to see how your Indy half goes and also how you roll out the downhill half at UV... I'm thinking a 59:30.

From Jon on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:15:29 from 75.169.159.140

Paul- I think this is the first time I have ever seen a whole race of yours. Usually I watch you pull away at the start and you disappear within 1/2 mile or so. It was exciting and enjoyable to see you run tough. Nice work.

From Bonnie on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:53:44 from 64.119.33.134

Great race report Paul (and great race too). Racing on the track is so different than the roads, and you got your head right back into it! Congratulations.

Good luck on the next couple of weeks, try to enjoy the process (even though it is hard) since the "rewards" of a good race doesn't last nearly as long ;-). One of my favorite sayings is "the only thing worse than doing it, is not doing it".

From Paul on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 14:52:05 from 174.27.225.89

Thanks everyone. Holt - no I didn't see Ruth in the steeple, as it was the first event, and I was still mowing the lawn at that point.

From MichelleL on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 15:09:46 from 67.41.226.109

Must have been dejavuish. I don't know what a death rattle is, but I am guessing a 6 second drop from mile 1 to 2 doesn't make the cut. It's nice to get your first track race back out of the way, in case you want to take another crack at it. Even less on-target races and workouts are money in the bank.

From steve ash on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 15:21:13 from 174.52.96.106

I would have loved to see the look on their faces wth you running unattached and that fast. Paul, I'm sure with 4-6 weeks of short speed work you would have probably been 8-10 sec/mile faster. Agree?

From Paul on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 15:44:21 from 174.27.225.89

Michelle - I've ran way too many track 5Ks, and know well the feeling of impending doom. A good race will be marked by very little to no slowdown during the second mile. It will be evenly paced. But when I start hurting and fatiguing by Lap 7, it's always an a sign of the beginning of the end. True, 6 seconds doesn't sound like much, but I think it's actually quite a bit when the goal is even splits. For some reason, I don't have this problem on the roads. For what it's worth, McKenna ran absolutely even all three miles.

Steve - I agree, probably 5 sec/mile with 5K specific training. But that would be at the expense of my half marathon-specific training! I've found that I can run about 15:20 just on base work, and get about 30 seconds in return for busting my rear on intervals. Back in college, 30s faster meant everything, but these days it doesn't mean much since my focus is elsewhere. But specificity in training is very important.

From Little Bad Legs on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 16:26:45 from 67.170.153.203

Great race Paul!

From JD on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 17:08:23 from 209.183.51.131

Nice going! Enjoyed your race report. Impressive given all the variables of the day.

From Dave S on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 21:14:26 from 4.254.228.221

Nice job! Liked the report as usual. Hope the calf problem clears up quickly.

From Burt on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 21:24:36 from 98.177.220.145

Great job Paul. Amazing. My favorite part of your report was after waiting for the girls "then finally it was our turn."

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 17:38:02 from 192.168.1.1

Congratulations on expecting another kid!

Regarding the race. You cannot expect a great 5 K on a hot windy afternoon on the track after a 7.5 mile warm up in the AM. But I do believe that this performance indicates that you had about 15:00 in ideal conditions (and without AM "warm up"), or possibly little under.

That said, I think you could benefit from a couple of more such races to verify that this is indeed the case. Still train like you, though. I am still of the opinion that OTQ is impossible if you cannot break 15:00 on a flat sea-level course (as I mentioned in the "baptism" discussion on the forum ). You do want to have as much 5 K speed as possible without going into the mode where you achieve it by burning more fuel than you should to run at slower paces.

If you find it difficult to sustain 72 second quarters, then it is perhaps time for magic. Regular collegiate 5 K training is no good because it will make you an 8-cylinder sports car, which is no good for the marathon. We need something that gives speed and fuel economy at the same time. So maybe something like 3x2 miles at 5:15 pace with the last mile of the last repeat run first in 5:00, work your way up to 4:50, then see if you can run the last 2000 in 6:00. Once you can do that, the 5 K should be fine.

From Paul on Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 17:59:00 from 65.103.252.214

Sasha - I pretty much agree. Someone who cannot break 15:00 or 31:00 has no business even trying for under 2:19. An even better gauge IMO is sub-1:07 for the half marathon.

Obviously the 5K is not my focus and never will be, but it's still fun to go out and see what I can do with training geared toward longer races. I did a long "warmup" because I valued the mileage more than the race performance. Just a different set of priorities, I guess. I was planning a 3x2-mile workout similar to what you suggested, but I'll probably have to bag until after my Indianapolis race, due to the inconvenience of getting sick.

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