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Location:

Fort Collins,CO,

Member Since:

May 15, 2003

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

Unaided PR's:
5K: 14:48 (Track - 2001)
10K: 30:45 (Track - 2001)
10K: 31:32 (Bolder Boulder - 2013)
Half Marathon: 1:06:09 (Duluth - 2013)
Marathon: 2:17:54 (Grandma's) - 2014)
Marathon: 2:19:47 (Indianapolis Monumental - 2013)
Marathon: 2:19:49 (Indianapolis Monumental - 2010)

Aided PR's:
10K: 29:38 (Des News - 2011)
Half Marathon: 1:05:30 (TOU Half - 2011)
Marathon: 2:18:09 (St George - 2007)
Marathon: 2:17:35 (Boston - 2011)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis in June of 2008. Started taking Enbrel in March, 2009.

Run as much as I can, and race as well as I can. Make the most of however much time I have left as an able-bodied runner.

Training for the 2018 Colorado Marathon

Long-Term Running Goals:

  Run until I'm old, and then run some more. Stand tall.

Personal:

1 wife, 2 kids. 1 cat. Work as a GIS Specialist/Map Geek

Endure and persist; this pain will turn to your good. - Ovid

Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us. - Romans 5:1-5

 

 

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.003.0012.00

Oh boy, a blank training calendar! Started the year out by running to the gym, doing 30 minutes on the elliptical, lifted, stretched, and then ran back home and continued north to 2200 N, out-and-back. Left the watch off, since it's a holiday and all. *** I've added a new blog entry on my webpage about New Years Goals

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.300.000.000.000.008.30

Did a modified Providence Hill Loop with 6x100m strides in the middle. Covered 8 miles in 55:10 (6:53/mile). Strides were on a slight downhill and I tried to focus on leg turnover and form. Jogged around the block with the dog afterward.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.000.003.0011.00

Warmer out today. I ran from work to the gym and hit the paved River Trail on way. I did the Golden Mile each way at brisk pace and collected 5:30 splits (6:03/mile pace). Then I stopped at the gym and did 30 minutes on the elliptical, and then some chin-ups and lunges. Ran back to work via the TOU course and average around 7:00/mile.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Day off *** I've posted a new blog entry on my webpage on "Itchin' to Race"

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 11:22:19

I plan to race possibly a half marathon down in St George later this month. I need to get some more details first though. When will you be coming or racing here again? By the way I think you have come through all of your injury problems with courage and optimism. I've been reading your daily entries and can see that you have had a good attitude through it all. I hope you get that Oly trials spot one day.

From steve ashbaker on Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 12:26:56

I just hit your link. I really like the Tinman website. It is entertaining and offers good insights on training physiology. See you at the Striders 5k!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

AM - Went to gym and lifted weights, stretched.

PM - Ran a brisk-pace run, a similar landfill loop to last week, except added a mile by doing an out-and-back to 200N near the landfill. Picked it up for the middle three miles and ran mile splits ranging 6:05-6:15 for that stretch. Added 4x100m strides near end. They felt slow, but I tried to focus on form. Averaged 6:24/mile for the entire 9-mile run.

It's interesting reading people's logs who live along the Wasatch Front. It sounds like they have received much worse weather than Logan all winter. I have only had to shovel snow once, and it was only about 2 inches. Footing and road/sidewalk conditions have been excellent here. It's surprising to me, because usually I'm envious of people running in Salt Lake since Logan tends to get the short end of the weather stick. Oh well, it's been a really bad winter here for skiing, but fantastic for running. I'll take it while I can get it!

Comments
From Mike on Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 16:43:57

Your air quality has been better too. I have been amazed that Logan has significantly lower PM2.5s than Salt Lake.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 16:46:38

Ah yes, good ol' Vitamen P. We had a yellow day back in early December, but nothing since then. Usually January is the worst, but so far, so good. If this keeps up we can no longer claim that we have worse air than L.A.

From Cody on Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 20:36:37

Man, do you know what you just did? We are now dommed to return to the frozen tundra that Cache Valley is known for.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.000.000.000.000.0011.00

Ran a big loop out to Young Ward and around through Icon and back on Golf Course Rd. Ran with Cody, who has one of those fancy Garmin 305 thingys. Our first four mile splits were in the 6:40's and 6:50s, then we turned into a headwind and hit 7:10-7:15 for awhile, and then picked it up to 7:00 pace when we got more favorable wind again. With 1 mile to go we were averaging 7:01/mile, so we picked it up a little to dust the 7-minute guy, who made a guest appearance in Logan. All in all, a pretty good run, and I'm happy to be holding 7:00/mile pace on my longer runs.

53 miles running this week, 55 scheduled for next week.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Ran a modified Providence Hill Loop in 61:10 (6:48/mile pace) with 6x100m strides in the middle. Beautiful sunny day here with no hint of haze in the air. *** I've posted a new blog entry about How fast "Super-Tergat" could run at St George.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.000.000.008.00

AM - easy 8 miles, out to First Dam and back, then 1 mile with dog. Ran close to 7:00/mile pace.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

Gorgeous day today, short-sleeves weather. I decided to do my long run of week today, since the weather is forcasted to get very cold soon, plus I am leaving on a yurt trip Saturday morning and probably won't be able to run. I ran a big loop into Millville and up onto the bench, and back through Providence and River Heights and then on into Logan via Center St. It's a hilly route, and I tried to work the hills to start building that "hill strength". Ended up running 6:38/mile pace for the run. I am very pleased with how training is going right now.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.003.0012.00

Ran to gym and did 30 minutes on elliptical, then some chinups and stretching. Ran back home via the TOU course and grabbed the dog for a half mile, dropped the dog off, and did an out-and-back to the end of the paved river trail, with 6x100m strides in the middle.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.000.000.008.00

I didn't have time to run until night, so I slipped on my reflective vest and braved the icy Logan roads to the gym. I wanted to do a Tinman tempo today, so I decided to try the treadmill rather than slide around on the dark roads the entire time. I've probably ran on a treadmill two or three other times, so had to focus on not flying off the thing. Looking at the TV above and to the right of my head definitely was not an option due to safety reasons. I started off at 6:45 pace, and kept myself entertained by increasing the speed by 0.2 mph every 5 minutes. I hit 5:49/mile pace near the end and was feeling pretty good at that effort. Running is a lot easier without wind resistance. 6:18/mile pace for the overall workout. Ran back home to cool down. I weighed in today at 130.5 lbs. I'm wearing jeans that I had in high school again.

Sasha, you're my hero
. Thanks!




Click here for an update an my webpage blog. Big bloggy news.

Comments
From bryan on Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 21:08:24

I didn't realize you had your own webpage blog. It looks great.

I glance at this blog of yours from time to time -- I just never write anything because what could I say other than your times are VERY impressive.

From Andy on Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 21:29:00

Congratulations on the opportunity to become a professional writer. I'm looking forward to reading your articles.

From Dave Holt on Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 09:53:25

Great job Paul - Congratulations!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.002.5011.50

Butt-cold this morning with some new snow, so I decided to opt out to the treadmill again. This time I got one farther back for a better TV viewing angle. It was sweet. This treadmill also had a little feature that showed your position if you were running on a track and counted your track laps. So basically it was trying to take your mind off something boring (treadmill) with something equally boring (track). I wasn't too keen on that feature. But I did appreciate the dual fans to keep me cool. After a 5-minute warmup on elliptical, I jumped on the treadmill for 30 minutes at 6:40/mile, then did 10 minutes on the elliptical, and another 30 minutes on the treadmill at 6:40/mile. Cooled down with 10 minutes on the elliptical. Way too much indoor training for me. Hopefully that is all the treadmill I will have to do for the year.

Did some light lifting and stretching afterward. This is the end of my running week, as I will be going on a yurt trip from Saturday through Monday. Hopefully I will get back in time on Monday to get a run in so that I can keep up with the 6 days/week thing. 55 miles total for this week, 60 scheduled for next week. 


Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Yurt trip. Left Logan at 8AM and hiked up to the Bunchgrass Yurt. Skiied a few shots, and I managed not to kill myself in the trees. I haven't skiied as much this year as I anticipated due to poor snow, but I was pleased with how my running fitness carried over to the uptrek. I felt good and was not very tire from the hike in.

 


Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Day two of yurt trip. Epic day. Skiied the toughest shot I've ever attempted, an avalanche chute off of White Pine Knob into the White Pine drainage. Snow conditions were safe, but I was more concerned about cliffs and rocks. We all made it down, although I had my share of spills, but nothing life threatning. When I looked back up at it, I thought it was pretty stupid to ski that, but what's done is done. 

 

Home sweet yurt 

 

Twin peaks, Mt Gog and Magog

 

That's what we skiied down...what was I thinking?!

After that we toured up the White Pine drainage and summitted a ridge that we fondly called "Mt Crustmore", because it ended up be very icy and almost impossible to skin up. It took hours to get everyone up it, and by the time we all made it, it was time to turn around and go back to the yurt because of darkness. Half our group, including myself, did a shot on the face called "Magic Land" which was the destination of the horrendous uptrack. Magic Land was quite magical, and I finally got some good turns in the trees. We then uptracked and skidded down Mt Crustmore and reached the bottom by dark. We then hiked back to the yurt the dark. Very cold. 

 

Top of Mt Crustmore, entering the realm of MagicLand.

Comments
From Chad on Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 23:46:14

I'm jealous!!

From Superfly on Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 22:45:31

Me too!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Skiied out of yurt back to vehicle by 1PM. Other than dead truck battery, no mishaps. It was good to take my mind off running for a few days, but now it's back to the grind!

I did a 9-miler as soon as I got home, otherwise I probably wouldn't get around to it. It took me a few miles to get my running legs back, but I managed to average 6:55/mile pace for the run, and felt pretty good aside from sore quads and butt.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Still working the yurt trip out of my legs. Ran 9 miles easy plus 6x100m strides. Very cold.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Waited to run until 2PM to maximize sun and warmth. It wasn't too bad, according to my beard-o-meter (if the beard accumulates ice, it is too cold!). Did a Tinman tempo on the First Dam Run 10k course in 37:55 (6:05/mile pace). It took me a couple miles to get going, but ended up being a decent run. Cooled down afterwards back to the office.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Easy 10 miles on Providence Hill Loop, with 6x100m strides. 7:19/mile pace for entire run. I've had a hard time getting going this week. It might be the cold, but is more likely just a "tired" phase of my training. Or maybe a combination of both.

Comments
From Superfly on Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 00:28:59

Paul as far as I know I'm the only one from down here going. I've got my (personal) registration form filled out- I just need to get it in the mail and up to you.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.002.000.003.0012.00

AM - Went to gym and did 30 minutes on elliptical. Stretched afterward. Weight 130.

PM - Warmer today. Modified Landfill loop from work, with 4x3-minute CV fartlek in middle. I have a new toy to wear, the Timex Bodylink. It is a GPS and HR monitor. I figured out how to use it during the first few minutes of my warmup, and then ran the fartlek. CV pace is supposed to be in between V02Max and LT, a little slower than 10-k pace. My 3:00 intervals were:

5:16/mile pace (HR 164)

5:18/mile pace (HR 171)

5:11/mile pace (HR 173)

5:17/mile pace (HR 175

Average pace for entire run 7:10/mile (skewed due to walking and figuring out toy). Ave HR for run 146. Max for run 181. Fun stuff.

Comments
From Chad on Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 17:34:00

Since you're a GPS guy, I gotta know why you went with the Timex Bodylink instead of the Garmin?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 17:39:36

No reason other than it's free. I'm doing a product review on it.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 17:56:38

Was that average HR or max/final?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 18:04:49

The HR listed in parenthesis for each 3-min interval is average.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 18:17:13

I suppose the max was around 181 on all of them. Which means it probably climbed to 170 fairly fast.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

Did 8 miles with Cody, 4 miles on my own, and 1 mile with the dog. Route was all over the place. Pace was around 7:10/mile. Cold, but felt pretty good. Ave HR 140.

60 miles for the week, 60 scheduled for next week.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

The snow last night cleared out the air and the inversion has temporarily lifted. Much warmer and less "soupy" today, which made for an enjoyable run. I ran an out-and-back into Millville. I was testing the Adeo for the first time, and it took me awhile to get the gps connected reliably, but eventually it worked and held the satellites. The mile splits I was getting were all the 6:35-6:55 range, and I felt pretty good. Listened to a Toad the Wet Sprocket concert and This American Life podcast through the Adeo. This was my first experience with running with music and it wasn't half bad.

Ave HR 150 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

AM - lifted weights

PM - Backward landfill loop; did 3.5-mile Tinman tempo in middle with 6:00 mile splits. Felt good. Did 4x100m strides near the end. 6:18/mile pace for overall run. Average HR 163 for tempo, 145 for non-tempo.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Did a 10-mile out-and-back up to North Logan on 1200 E. 6:50/mile pace for the run. Today is a GREEN burn day in Logan, making for nice running. Ave HR 148.

I'm still looking for 4 more runners for my Relay del Sol team. Entry fee has been comped. We are a "competitive" team, meaning 7:00/mile pace or faster. But the main focus is fun. Interested bloggers feel free to contact me.

Comments
From mike on Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 16:36:24

What a strange winter. Logan is a Green burn and Salt Lake is Red. I'm ready to move to Logan. Moab was 19 F at noon. Snow in Tuscon. Strange.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.003.003.00

Day off. Went to the gym and did 30 minutes on the treadmill. Weighed in a 130 lbs.

Today is a YELLOW burn day in Logan. Please idle your truck for only 30 minutes or less.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.003.000.000.0010.00

CV fartlek run out to Millville and back on TOU course. 4x100m striders during cooldown.

Fartlek was 4x4-minute intervals with 3-minute rest.

0.75 miles (5:20/mile pace), ave HR 166

0.73 miles (5:28/mile pace), ave HR 174

0.75 miles (5:20/mile pace), ave HR 176

0.77 miles (5:10/mile pace), ave HR 176 (slight downhill, so faster)

Felt good. Ave HR for workout 158. Max HR during fartlek 184.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

AM - lifted weights at gym. Weighed in at 130 lbs.

PM - Easy run; did big loop around Logan and rocked out to Mutual Admiration Society. 6:41/mile pace.

Red burn day in Logan today. The air is pure soup. I was feeling sick to my stomach during the run because of it. I'll try to get up either Blacksmith or Logan Canyon tomorrow for my long run.

Comments
From Dave Holt on Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 13:43:19

I just read you MP3 article. I don't know if you convinced me yet!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.000.000.0013.50

Jogged around the block with the dog. Then Cody came by and picked me up (and Dan too) to run in Blacksmith Fork. The goal was to get out of the inversion and we were successful in that. We parked near the 6.75 mile mark of the TOU course and ran up the canyon toward Hardware Ranch. Turned around at 6.5 miles (near the start line) and came back downhill. I did 6x100m strides near the top. We kept a good pace for most the run, and my mile splits were 7:05, 7:05, 7:12, 7:17, 7:17, 6:54, 6:49, 6:51, 6:40, 6:17, 7:11, 7:08, 6:28.

6:56/mile pace for the entire run. HR monitor was having a hard time.

It was great getting out of the smog and seeing blue sky and breathing clean air. Toward the end of the run it actually started getting pretty warm.

61.5 miles this week, 63 scheduled for next week. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.250.000.000.000.0010.25

Easy out-and-back to Millville. 6:48/mile pace.

Air quality was a bit more tolerable today. I didn't feel sick while I ran. 

Comments
From Superfly on Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 18:45:39

Paul,

If I can get a $49.00 flight out of Vegas I'll do that. However if there is room and stuff with those who are driving down then I could be talked into that as well. I guess at this point I haven't made any firm plans.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

AM - Lifted weights

10-mile run (modified Landfill Loop) with 4.5-mile Tinman tempo in middle and 4x100m strides near end. Tempo part was 6:01/mile pace with ave HR 167. Overall run was 6:23/mile pace with ave HR 158.

Yellow burn day today.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
1.000.000.000.003.004.00

Crosstraining day. Had my wife drop me off at the gym on the way back from the chiropractor, and did 30 minutes on the elliptical. Jogged home 1 mile from the gym.

Comments
From Superfly on Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 23:47:45

I posted a reply on my blog.

From Superfly on Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 10:24:03

Paul I'm 95% sure I'm flying down out of Vegas. When you arrive in PHX there is a free shuttle from the airport to the hotel if you wanted to us it. You may be getting the rental there at the airport. In any case the hotel is only 5 min from the airport.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Easy run (Providence Hill loop) with 6x100m strides in the middle. 7:03 pace for the entire run.

The inversion finally blew out (for now), so a pretty nice day today.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.002.000.0010.00

Today Cody, Dan, and I did a 2-mile time trial on part of the Landfill Loop. The purpose of this was to give me an idea of my current fitness and an estimate of an appropriate 5k pace for the upcoming Striders 5k in 9 days. The time trial course is very flat, and the weather was very nice with no snow or wind, and not too cold either. Other than an isolated splot of ice and slush on the first mile, road conditions were good. Did a 2-mile warmup with 4x100m strides.

I was hoping to run 10:00, but ended up at 10:27. First mile was around 5:04, so the second was 5:23, very lopsided. This was measured with my Timex GPS, so give or take a couple seconds.

I had forgotten how much it hurt to fun that fast, so this was good to do before the 5k race. I think with proper pacing, competition, pushing myself harder, and some "raceday magic" (adrenaline), I can probably hold 5:15 pace for a 5k (16:20). The Ogden course will be slower due due a sizeable hill, so I think I will be happy with under 16:40 for that race. Regardless, I did learn today that I shouldn't go out in 5:00, which will be key.

I cooled down with Cody and Dan and then turned off on 1400 N, and did 4x100m strides, which felt good. In all, my recovery from the time trial was pretty fast, a good sign. Tried to keep the pace under 7:00/mile the last two miles of the run.

****** 

I have added a new (original) entry to my personal blog regarding the upcoming Striders Series. 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 17:08:24

One time I took Sarah out for a 5 K time trial. I knew her condition quite well, and could pace her properly. Reflecting on that experience later, she admitted that it was comparable to labor in terms of pain.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Easy day, North Logan out-and-back. Caught the 7-minute guy with 2 miles left and said, "Smell ya' later!" 6:57/mile pace for entire run.

I can feel yesterday a little, but not too much. Ave HR 153.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.750.000.000.000.0013.75

Jogged around the block with the dog, and then met Cody for a 13.2-mile jaunt up and around Millville, Prov-town, and River Heights. Followed the new Wasatch Back Relay course on the way out, then got up on the bench for the return trip, and some running on the TOU course as well. 7:15/mile pace for the run. Felt okay, but a bit stiff. Nice morning.

65 miles total for the week, the same schedule for next week. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Out and back route to Logan Canyon River Trail. Trail had packed snow, with pretty good footing. 6x100m strides on the way back. 6:51/mile pace for the run.

Ave HR 154 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.000.000.000.000.0011.00

Beautiful, warm day in Logan; wore short sleeves and sweat a lot. Did a 5-mile Tinman tempo, with splits of 6:00, 6:00, 5:59, 5:48, 5:50. Felt easy. HR stayed around 164 for the tempo. Followed it up with 4x 30-second hill surges up Country Rd. HR peaked at 173 at the end up each surge. Ave pace for entire run was 6:31; ave HR was 155

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

AM - Inspired by Sasha and Ted, I decided to try running before noon. I only managed to do 6:30AM, so I still have a ways to go. Easy jog around block with the dog, followed by an out-and-back to the end of the paved river trail. 4.5 miles total. It was a very nice morning, and I was pleasantly surprised to see it growing light before 7AM. Legs feel great, but the top my left foot to my lower shin feels very irritated. It don't feel it when I wear sandals or go barefoot, just with shoes. I'm wearing my birks for work today; hopefully this is nothing more than a distraction, but I'll keep tabs on it. I have an afternoon run scheduled as well.

PM - easy 7.5 miles with Cody, Dan, and Jon. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

For all those interested in the Striders 5K coming up this Saturday, I've posted some maps and profiles on my personal blog.

Ran 10 miles from work (Providence Hill Loop). Did 8x100m strides on the downhill part to help calibrate my legs to the trashing they're going to take on Saturday. 6:49/mile average pace for the run. Ave HR 150.

Top of my foot felt a little better today, but still some irritation.

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 11:44:07

Unbelievable! Thanks for the time you spent on the map. Usually I can tell how and where Im going to be in a 5k. This one however leaves me scratching my head a little bit.

From Scott Browning on Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 12:01:51

Hey Paul, thanks for taking the time to put up the course profile, it should be an interesting race. Good Luck!

From Chad on Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 12:34:15

Paul,

The map and the video look great. If I were an RD, you would get my business. Why not just sell what you did to the Strider's folks?

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 18:19:03

I think anything sub-17:00 on that course would be a good time. On a 6% grade for half a mile 5:20 mile effort will give you about 7:00 pace.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Day off. Wore birks all day to let my irritated foot heal.

Comments
From James on Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 21:29:35

I decided to try it, but I haven't figured out how it works yet. I have been doing the training log but not the blog.

Don't let that foot get too irritated!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.000.000.000.007.00

Ran an easy 7 miles with Jon at 7:58/mile pace. Landfill Loop. I laced my shoe differently (didn't go all the way to the top) and between that and wearing sandals the last three days, it feels fine again. I'm pretty sure what was happening was that the tendons at the top of my foot were being aggravated by tying my shoes too tight.

I'm ready to go in the 5k tomorrow. The course will be brutal, but fortunately success in a racing circuit is measured not by how fast you run, but by where you place. And we all run the same course! 

Race: Striders Winter Racing Circuit 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:16:36, Place overall: 3
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.500.000.003.100.0013.60

Striders 5K this morning. Abnormally warm day for early February, mid-40's for temp, overcast, no wind. In other words, perfect. I arrived to the Start about 50 minutes before the race, checked in, and warmed up for a few miles. I knew from my elevation profile that this race would be very hilly, as we will essentially run up and down the highest Bonneville Shoreline terrace. I was rather dreading it.

At the start line, it appeared that there was a very good field: Joe, Corbin, Bob, Steve, Sasha, Leon, Nate, and so on and so on. Basically all the usual suspects, and then some. I put Top 3 and money out of my head and decided to just focus on running smart and "my race".

The first mile felt pretty easy and had a good amount of flat and slightly uphill terrain. Sasha's GPS beep cued me to look at my watch at 0.5-mile, which I hit in 5:34. The gradient increased substantially by the end of the mile. Went through the mile in 5:23, which was right where I wanted to be. I was in 5th place at that point, further up than I expected given the field.

By the end of the 1st mile and into the 2nd mile, things got really steep. I focused on trying to stay smooth, not make any foolish moves, and keep from going too anaerobic. The crest of the big hill came sooner than I expected, and I was still feeling quite good, so I knew at that point that I was going to have a good race. I moved into 4th, passing Leon at some point, and then Joe started falling off Corbin and Bob. I realized that if I kept my pace, I would pass him. The downhills were like roller coasters, and I just flailed my arms for balance and let gravity chunder me down at high speeds. I passed Joe on the downhill, and I was then in 3rd. If I could hold that, I would take a home a little cash which is always nice. Mile 2 split was 5:39 (11:02 2-mile).

The last mile had mixed up and downs, but mostly downhills. I just tried to keep momentum going and my form good. With about half a mile left, I realized that no one was going to catch me, plus I was starting to gain on Bob and Corbin. Unfortunately, I couldn't quite get enough oxygen into my gaping mouth, but still tried to push it the best I could. Corbin made a move up front, dropped Bob, and put more distance on myself as well. Bob came back to me a bit, but I ran out of road, and he ended up finishing a couple seconds ahead. I finished strong, but it wasn't exactly a blazing sprint either. I would describe the race in general as a steady effort without too many surges, very even "pacing" and effort given the terrain. Last mile split was 4:59. Last 200m was 35 seconds. Overall time was 16:36. 3rd place. Also noteable: a 1-2-3 finish for the Wasatch Running Center. Overall results are here.

I was VERY pleased with this race. I did not expect to finish in the top 3 in that particular field, and was quite tickled to finish that close to speedsters like Bob and Corbin. This is a great start to the season!

Cooled down a few miles with everyone afterward.

PM - Did an easy 5.5-mile afternoon run to get some more mileage and shake the race and car trip out of my leg. Felt pretty good.


Comments
From Andy on Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 17:52:28

Very impressive. Looks like you are almost all the way back from your injuries.

From Cody on Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 18:24:28

Very Impressive Paul!

You make it look so easy. Great Run.

From Maria on Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 18:26:25

Wow, what a great performance in your first comeback race! Great job!

From Chad on Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 18:28:07

Man, you turned in a really great race today. Good job!

From Dustin Ence on Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 23:53:25

Good job Paul

Glad to see your back to racing, I am sure it was hard last year dealing with all the injuries.

From Sasha Pachev on Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 00:00:00

Paul:

Check out the predictor. I think you ran an equivalent of 15:56 in Heart of Holladay.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 00:41:09

Thank you all for your encouragement and kind words. This blog has been very inspirational to me over the last several months. We are building a very nice community here, thanks to Sasha and all the contributing bloggers.

Sasha, I think the predictor is very close. I feel like I am near the fitness I had in 2003 (when I ran 15:55 at Heart of Holladay and 15:35 for Draper). Although I have not been doing intense speedwork, my base mileage has been much more consistent and steady than over the past few years. I believe that alone can get one to 90% of the their potential V02Max. The rest will come with specific speedwork.

From bob on Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:05:04

Great job Paul. Are you running the rest of the Ogden series?

From James on Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:10:20

Great race yesterday!

I was very impressed with your performance on tough course, with an unusual quality of field. I think that you are back where you should be, and I suspect that we will see some great running out of you this year. I look forward to tagging along with you to some great things myself.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:32:17

Bob, yes I am running the entire Ogden Series. If the half marathon and 30K go well, I will probably run the Ogden Marathon too.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Crummy rainy day. I decided to wait for a day not so crummy to run.

Recovery from the race has been good. Very little residual soreness and I don't feel "pounded" at all (partially due to wearing lightweight trainers rather than racing flats).

****

For those interested in the Wasatch Back Relay, I have posted an entry on my MarathonGIS blog describing the 2007 course changes, and a link to some sweet flash maps. 

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 22:20:52

Congrats Paul you have showed a lot of faith and patience to get here. Well done man...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.000.000.000.000.0011.00

Tinman Tempo on Landfill Loop. Did a couple miles at 6:20-6:30, and then held 6:00-6:10 for the 6-mile tempo duration. HR was in the upper 160's up to 170 for the tempo. Did 4x100m strides afterwards. Ave pace for run was 6:28/mile.

Comments
From Cody on Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 23:09:20

Looking Good

From James on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 00:27:47

What exactly is a Tinman Tempo?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:06:37

James,

Tinman tempo is defined as the pace you can hold for 3 hours. So it is much slower than LT pace and a little slower than marathon pace for me. A good rule of thumb is to add 60 seconds to your 3k or 5k pace to get your tinman tempo pace. It's called a "Tinman" tempo, because it's advocated by an online coach who goes by the nickname "Tinman". The idea is to build endurance aerobically, and still not wear yourself out, so you can do them frequently. I started doing them a few months ago, when I realized I had doing them inadvertantly with my college team back in the day. We called it "brisk" pace back then. In those days I could run sub-15:30 5k with no speedwork, just base mileage and some of these "brisk" runs every week. I figured that if I wanted to get that fast again, I should add some faster, sustained aerobic tempos to my training, as that is closer to what I was doing in college.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Ran to gym and lifted weights this morning. Today was supposed to be "bagel Tuesday" at the gym, but there were no bagels there. Needless to say, I was vexed. After lifting, I ran home and scarfed a cliff bar, then continued with my run. Very easy pace day; not a whole lot of energy. 7:30/mile pace for the run. I did my run on the canal trail loop, and there was no snow to be found. It's been a very strange February. I bought some trail shoes (Brooks Cascadia) at the WRC last Saturday, so I may be able hit some trails sooner than later!

Weighed in today at 128 lbs. That was before breakfast, but still, oh my! I actually need to put on a few pounds now. However, I know that the general weight loss has been key to improving my race times and staying injury-free. I was 145 lbs last year at this point, and fighting knee and back problems. According to my blog, I was 143 lbs a couple days before I PR'ed in the half marathon last April; I am now 15 lbs lighter than that. Just running a quick, generic calculation, since V02Max is a volume (mL) divided by mass (kg), if my oxygen volume is roughly the same, given the fact that I've dropped 6.5 kg, my V02Max could be up to 7 units higher due to just dropping weight. I know that's a simplistic calculation, but the general idea holds true. I think the fact that I just ran a 5k about a minute faster than at this point last year adds some validity to the calcualtion as well.

All that being said, I'm already chowing down as it is, and am still losing weight, so I need to chow down some more. I added an addition PB&J sandwich to my lunch today as a start. 

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

North Logan out-and-back, easy pace. 6:53/mile. Did 6x100m strides in middle. Feeling totally recovered from Saturday, and ready to work again.

Comments
From Bob on Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 18:48:27

Paul,

Are you planning on running the Ogden marathon?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 18:58:05

Bob, maybe...

If I can PR big in the Striders half marathon, I'll definitely throw my hat into the marathon. I need to have sufficient reason to think I can go fast enough to make it worth my while. I have to make sure that my body is holding up to the mileage too. I'd definitely like to, and so far so good!

From David Nelson on Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 22:10:09

Paul, you should rename your blog. Mine gets so much traffic because of the donuts reference. Are they still serving glazed donuts at the Striders series? Now that's motivation!

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:26:51

Maybe if I renamed my blog to "Dave Nelson's friend", I could get some crossover traffic.

I didn't see any donuts at the Striders race. You left Utah at just the right time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.000.000.000.000.0011.00

CV fartlek, 5x4-minutes, 3 minutes rest. Overall 5:20 pace for intervals. 6:28/mile pace for entire run. Millville out-and-back route. Did 2x30s hill charges at end. Ave HR for intervals in low 170s, maxed at 186 on last interval.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Met Dan, David, and Jon at the Logan Canyon River Trail (ran from work). Ran the trail from the gate to Spring Hollow campground and back. Very easy pace. The trail was very muddy, and icy in some spots still. The single track was especially slick.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.000.000.000.000.0015.00

Awesome, warm sunny day today; ran in shorts in t-shirt. Did a 15-miler, with Dan and Cody for most of it. We held 6:57 pace for the first 11.5 miles, then dropped off Dan. Then Cody and I did  2 miles of loops in the LHS grass field at around 7:20/mile. It was good to get on the softer surface. I finished off the run with my dog. I took my dog to the vet today for a routine checkup, and he weighed in at 98 lbs, almost 20 pounds heavier than last year. I told him afterwards he needs to get his butt into shape, so I'll try to take him out for longer runs to help him accomplish that.

Comments
From David Nelson on Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 23:42:48

If you need someone to kick Gil to get him going, I'm your man. Good to hear the weather is cooperating for you guys, sounds like a nice run today.

From James on Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 01:19:17

Thats great that you got old Gil out the door. What happened to taking Jon on a run today? I heard he is in similar shape!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Easy distance today. Started out with a few miles on the track to calibrate the Suunto Foot Pod that I'm testing. I did 6x100m strides on the track, and decided to time them just see to see how fast I'm running. The strides were all between 14.5 - 16.0 seconds. They were very hard, but not all-out, so I reckon I can probably run 13.5 in an all-out sprint right now.

Went out after that to the paved river trail and back, then grabbed my fat, out-of-shape dog and dragged him the last three miles through some neighborhoods. Gil went out hard, but after one 6:30 mile, he was sucking wind, and I had to work to get him under 8:00/mile pace the rest of the way. Pretty sad; he used to do 13-milers with me.

Nice day, wore short sleeves and shorts. Ave HR 139. Got up to 179 on the strides. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

Did 6.5-mile Tinman tempo on First Dam Run course. 6:00/mile pace for the first 3 miles, 5:45/mile pace for the remainder. Felt kind of lazy before the run, but it ended up feeling really good, especially biomechanics. Did 4x30-second hill charges up the Boulevard after then tempo. Cooled down with the dog. He made it two miles this time without bonking out, so some improvement.

Lots of snow this morning, but roads were quite clear by the time I ran at 3PM. 

Averaged 6:30/mile pace for the entire run. Ave HR for entire run was 166. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - ran to gym, lifted weights, and then ran home via TOU course. Did another half mile with the dog. 5.5 miles total at easy pace. Weighed in at 130 lbs.

PM - 7.5 easy. Landfill loop at 7:00/mile pace, then a couple miles with the dog. 7:15/mile pace for entire run. Ave HR 134, max 148.

The Suunto unit is a much better, more stable HR monitor than anything else I've used. It has yet to give me a weird reading, even on cold days.

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:01:57

How accurate is your Suunto T-3 compared to the Garmin 305 in terms of speed and distance measurements?

From steve ashbaker on Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:03:07

How accurate is your Suunto T-3 compared to the Garmin 305 in terms of speed and distance measurements?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 14:12:21

Steve, I'm not done testing it yet, but it seems like it has potential to be pretty good. Unlike a gps, the Suunto has to be calibrated, but once it's calibrated, I think it's accurate within a few meters. You do have to make sure it doesn't shift on your shoe, because that can throw it off, but I figured out how to get that right just a couple days ago. Also, the Suunto watch is very hard to use; not user-friendly at all. The Suunto will stay accurate in canyons, forests, and on trails, unlike the Garmin. Current pace on the Suunto is also a lot more stable and reliable than any GPS I've used.

But all that said, the Suunto is so hard to set up and figure out, for the money I'd rather go with a GPS. I prefer my Timex Bodylink over the Suunto.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 14:19:51

Paul:

Can Suunto give you the stride rate?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 15:11:35

Sasha, I haven't seen a stride rate feature anywhere. I'll have to check, but I kind of doubt it. You figure it would be a basic function, but on the other hand, very few runners would want it. Personally, I'd be kind of curios to have that as a readout, to see how close I get to Daniels' 180 strides/minute.

From Chad on Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 22:45:32

I have the Suunto t6, which predates the t3 Paul is testing. It does not give stride rate either. I read about the t3 and I like the fact that it gives you the training effect feedback in real time; that's useful because you don't have to upload to data to the PC to get the info. It still uses the foot pod for speed/distance info, however, which I have found to be a major limitation over time (I loved it when I first got it a year and a half ago). Perhaps the improvements are better with the t3, but I have found the Suunto foot pod to be highly unreliable, requiring me to send the watch and footpod back to Suunto a couple of times. It turns off for no reason, sucks batteries quickly, and does not provide consistent pace/mileage data at speeds that vary significantly from the speed I calibrated it at. Again, I hope that Suunto fixed these things with the t3. Anyhow, the problems with the Suunto are the reason that I finally decided to purchase the Garmin 305 yesterday (through the FRB Store). Although, after reading Paul's review of the Timex Bodylink on The Final Sprint, I like the sound of that unit too. So, that's my unsolicited input!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

North Logan - Campus Loop. 7:00/mile pace. Did 6x100m strides. Ave HR 136, max 166.

Comments
From Cody on Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 22:11:26

Paul,

Did you make a map of the 10K striders series course? I am interested in it and hope you can share it with us.

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Day off. My work for the week is done. Now it's just time to freshen up my legs for the 10K this weekend.

Speaking of Striders10K this weekend, I've posted an entry and some maps today on my MarathonGIS blog. Check it out if you're interested.

Comments
From Bob on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 13:30:23

Paul

Thanks for clarifying in such terrifying detail. I think the AADP standards are out of the realm of possibility on this course.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 14:27:39

The 10-miler will be even worse.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 14:50:03

Paul:

I generally agree with your rough estimate of standard 5 K to 10 K projection for this 10 K course. The 10 K course has both pluses and minuses that could put you on either side of the projection.

Pluses - you get a mile long break on the second mile before you hit the third. You get two straight downhill miles at the right kind of grade on the second half.

Minuses - it is a 10 K. Uphill slows you down more per mile as the distance increases. There is a very steep climb for a quarter on the first mile, steeper than anything in the 5K. There is more uphill at the end.

I will reserve my final conclusions until the race is over and we have some empirical data.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.000.000.000.006.00

Easy distance for mini-taper. I wanted to do 7 miles, but ran out of time due to dinner obligations. It's unfortunate when having a life butts into my running. I should have planned better.

Race: Striders Winter Racing Circuit 10K (6.2 Miles) 00:34:47, Place overall: 4, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.800.000.006.200.0016.00

Striders 10-K. I got up a bit early and used TP Massage Ball to work over my lower back, which had been bothering me a little over the last few days. Weather was a little chilly, but sunny with no wind to speak of. Good racing weather. The competition was the same as last time, with the addition of Dennis. I was not sure what kind of race Dennis was going to run, but decided not to worry him too much and worry about myself instead. Warmed up 2 miles.

For details of the 10k course, click here. By the way, my memory during races tends to be a bit fuzzy, so some of the following may be slightly inaccurate.

Because of all the hills, I wanted to go out rather conservatively, but still keep contact with the lead pack. The pack accomodated this by going out quite slow, so I found myself right up front without expending much energy. There was about a pack of 6-10 during the first half mile, which thinned out to a group of 4 by the end of the second mile: myself, Joe, Corbin, and Bob.

The third mile featured a very large climb (~300ft) that kicked my butt, and made me go anaerobic. This worried me a little, as I have done zero anaerobic or V02Max training (besides the 5k race). Fortunately, I stayed close to the leaders through this stretch. At the 3-mile point (18:03 for the split), it was Bob and Joe, and then Corbin, followed by me. On the downhill, I recovered a bit and started moving. I caught and passed Corbin by 3.5, and then caught Bob and Joe by the 4-mile point (or so, I can't remember). Traded leads with Bob and Joe during the 5th mile, and at one point I tried a weak attempt of breaking away (I was feeling pretty good still), but with no success. Passed the 5-mile mark still feeling decent, but it's hard not to feel good when running downhill. The last climb with about a mile left took the wind out of my sails, and it was a struggle. Bob had made a really nice move just before that and broken away, and continued to pull farther from everyone going up the hill. Joe was a few seconds ahead of me, and I retained the spread, but felt myself getting weaker as the hill went on. Once we got back to the downhill, I struggled to regain my speed, and Corbin went by me into 3rd place. Corbin soon passed Joe as well, but Bob was a ways ahead. Joe was still in striking distance for me, but I could not close well, and the gap widened a little. Meanwhile, Corbin was still closing like a madman. Apparently he ran a 4:21 indoor mile last week. But Bob's earlier surge had put enough distance on the rest of the field to secure his win without challenge. Bob - Corbin - Joe - Me - Dennis - Someone - Sasha. Nice race everyone.

My final time was 34:47. Mile splits were 5:57, 12:05 (2-mile split -- missed mile 2), 4:58, 5:02, 5:36. Several people suspected the first mile was long, and perhaps the course was a little long (although we all took horrible tangents due to snow/ice), but it's a race, so who cares? This was more like a cross country race in some ways; time didn't matter, just place.

I was pretty happy with this race. I was off my predicted time by about 20 seconds, but the winners were much slower than my predictions as well. Thus, I can assume that the prediction was wrong. In the 5k I was 11 seconds behind the winner; today in the 10k I was 19 seconds behind the winner. Looking at it in this light, I probably ran equal to or slightly better than my 5k performance two weeks ago. I enjoyed mixing it up and racing with Joe, Corbin, and Bob, and I don't feel like I made any strategical errors. My only downfall was not being able to hold it the last mile and finish off the race with a surge. I'm still missing a little bit of the "killer racing instinct" as well, that is required to win 5k's and 10k's. But all things considered, it was a pretty good race for me, and I look forward to the 10-miler.

Cooled down ~3.5 miles immediately after race.

Official race results are up impressively quick. Click here

Ran another 4 miles around 2PM to get some more mileage and work the race and car ride out of me. All body parts feel intact. Pace: 7:45/mile. Ave HR 145. This heart rate is high for the pace. I must be fatigued or dehydrated....hmmm...I wonder why!

67 miles total for this week. I will bump it up to 70 miles for the next two weeks.

Comments
From Bob on Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 17:12:04

Nice job today Paul. You looked strong.

From steve ashbaker on Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 19:31:34

Good run Paul, I have never seen anybody comeback like you have. Well done...

From ArmyRunner on Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 21:25:21

You continue to look impressive for early in the year and after returning from injury. Good run today.

From Cody on Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 22:27:35

Nice Job Paul!

Sounds like it was quite an "Epic Battle" as predicted. I wish I could have watched it from closer than a mile away! Wow! What a race.

From Cody on Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 22:28:59

Did the massage ball help? I think I had better pick me up one. All these races and miles....

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:13:43

Cody, yes I think all the TP products help me a lot. It really helps release my back when it's tight, but also helps by calves and quads recover from pounding. I always feel better after a run when I use the set.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

AM - Woke up and my legs felt like I ran a hilly 10K yesterday...quads a bit tired and sore, outside of the calves battered, and general fatigue. I ran an easy mile with the dog to test things out. No pains, just the usual effects of a hard 10K, so that's good. The legs felt better after the little jog. I'll try another short run later today to continue to work the race out.

PM - Easy 4 mile out-and-back on paved river trail. Legs are feeling better. 7:40/mile pace. Ave HR 137 - a sign of good recovery.  

Comments
From David Nelson on Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 17:07:19

Paul --

Nice run yesterday, looks like that field is good competition for the series. All of you guys are running well, you're giving me something to shoot for.

From Superfly on Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 19:09:25

Paul good to see your doing so well early in the year. Look out this summer.

I'm getting pretty pumped for the relay in PHX. Anything new floating around about it? So I looked and my legs are all in the night time frame where you have to have a light. What works best for that? Like one of those head lamps? I'll have to find out what works. Anyways good job and looking forward to the end of March.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:26:21

Good job in the race. I think I am going to use you as the standard for the predictor. Looking at my splits compared to yours, the longer hills emphasized my weakness, so I was a bit off relative to the 5 K.

I got a chuckle out of "HR 137 at 7:40 is a sign of good recovery". For me that would mean I have 100 degree fever, or possibly higher, or maybe severely dehydrated. However, your resting HR is quite a bit lower than mine (mine is 48, yours is 40, right?). Which gets me thinking - perhaps your cardiovascular potential is still very much untapped.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Easy 10 miles (Millville out-and-back) at 7:30/mile pace. Did 6x100m strides midway through the run, and stopped at the gym near the end and lifted weights. Finished up with a block with the dog. Ave HR 141. Max 169 during the strides. Still recovering from the race, but I think I'll be ready for a workout tomorrow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

I've posted a new entry on my personal blog about a cool race result database called Athlinks. Check it out if you're interested in that sort of nerdy stuff.

**************

Snow this morning, so I waited until 3:30PM to do my run. It's nice having a very flexible job, and I actually owe some of my winter fitness to being able to wait around to run on good footing. Indeed, the snow today had melted, and roads were wet, but grippy. The sun came out as well, and it was actually very nice out. Good day for a workout.

I had a 7-mile Tinman tempo scheduled, but I wasn't sure how it was going to go due to some of the 10K still being in my legs. I wanted to work on hills some, so I did the 12-mile Millville-Providence-River Heights loop, which goes up and down the benches. I warmed up for three miles, then started the tempo. I was sluggish the first miles, but then things clicked during the remaining 6 miles, and it ended up being an excellent workout that felt good. I was able to work the hills, but still feel fast and strong on them, so I think the races have served to increase my fitness over the last couple weeks. Tempo mile splits were 6:08, 6:00, 6:26, 6:12, 6:03, 5:47, 5:52. First two miles were rolling, the next three had a lot of uphill, and the last two had a lot of downhill. HR stayed in the 170 range during the tempo, and peaked at 180 on the hills. Average pace for entire 12-mile run was 6:24/mile.

Comments
From benjermama on Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 13:49:31

which 10k did you do??

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 14:09:09

This one:

http://paul.fastrunningblog.com/blog-02-24-2007.html

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

North Logan out-and-back. 7:10/mile pace. Did 6x100m strides midway. Ave HR ~145.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.200.000.000.000.005.20

Got up at 5:30AM, commuted to Denver. 4 hours of meetings. Commuted back to Utah. Got home at 10PM. I hate commuting, especially the airplane kind. I'll be glad for my 4-block walk to work tomorrow. I managed to squeeze in 5 miles when I got home (Gym-to-gym loop), despite just wanting to go to bed. But it felt good to work the travel out of my legs.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.250.003.750.000.0012.00

Did 5x4-minute CV fartlek (2:30-minute rest) on Mendon Road.  Pace was 5:20-5:30/mile for all the intervals. Did a mile at "brisk" pace (6:20) before and after the fartlek session. Finished off the workout with 4x100m strides. I didn't feel very sharp today, but still gave myself a good workout without wearing myself out too much. Kind of a "blah" week this week; I'll be glad when it's over.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.000.000.000.000.0016.00

Long run with Jon and Cody. Long and slow. And cold! It was about 0 degrees when we started, and 10 degrees when we passed the Providence bank near the end at 9AM. My hands and other certain appendages were in a fair amount of pain. We finally caught the 8-minute guy by the end. I needed slow today, it's been a long week with both work and running. I look forward to tackling a good week of training next week.

70 miles total for the week, the same scheduled for next week. 

Comments
From Mike on Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 12:29:17

On a cold day you have to make a painful choice: Wear your gloves on your hands or stuff them down your tights. Choose wisely!

Nice job this week getting in the mileage with your travels. You inspired me to run last night on the treadmill (Amy was working) instead of going to bed.

From James on Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 18:46:05

That's cool, I figured everyone wanted to get their runs over with, I just couldn't go at that time, plus I always run at the crack of dawn. I was glad I went when I did, it wasn't 0 degrees but it was still really cold. I think my lower back stiffness is from shoveling so much snow this week, but I do need to go to the chiropractor, so hook me up!

Good job on your week, get some rest.

From steve ashbaker on Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 22:06:20

Thanks, my wife is glad to as she is seeing me more now instead of reminding me to take the garbage on my way out! But Im still convinced that 100 mile weeks over time are the way to go. I just need a more gradual buildup like yours.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.500.000.000.000.007.50

Easy run to First Dam and back. 6:52/mile pace for run. Did a block with the dog afterwards.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

12-mile run (Millville-Providence Loop) with 7-mile Tinman tempo within. It is a rolling course with a lot of uphill in the middle and downhill at the end. Tempo splits were 6:03, 5:54, 6:18 (uphill), 6:45 (uphill), 6:14, 5:51 (downhill), 5:38 (downhill). I threw in a couple hill surges before the tempo, and a few 100m strides afterwards. Stopped at gym toward end of run and lifted weights and ate free pizza before waddling home. Gotta love free food. All-in-all, felt very good today, better than most of the past week. 6:28/mile pace for the entire run. Ave HR 163.

(Adrenaline orange: 94 miles)

Comments
From dutch on Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 08:52:10

hey paul,

do you remember what my ogden half time was?? cuz i don't.

wasn't it something like 1:37??

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Easy 9-mile run (North Logan Out-and-Back). I had passed the 7-minute guy near the end, but with two blocks to go, some lady about hit me in her car. Why is it Logan drivers are incapable of looking for pedestrians, runners, and cyclists? The end result was me stopping abruptly, and then manuevering around the car. In the meantime the 7-minute guy passed me back, and I ran out of road before I could catch him again. Oh well.

(Adrenaline black: 319.5 miles

Comments
From Mike on Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 20:55:13

Are you keeping track of your shoes with the (Adrenaline black: 319.5)?

Good luck this weekend at the 10 miler. Is this the last of the killer Strider courses?

From James on Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 21:27:28

Amen! I get tired of people not paying attention or caring if they run you off the road. That is why I don't mind giving them all tickets!

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 22:07:46

Yeah, I've been tracking my shoe mileage separately, but decided to try to consolidate it into here. I have a four-shoe rotation going, so we'll see how well it works!

This 10-miler is the last hard course. The half marathon is cake, and the 30k shoe be a moderately fast course as well.

From Jon on Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 09:32:02

James, just don't give us the tickets.

I was wondering what your Adrenaline stuff was, too- good to see that it has some meaning. I was worried that you had lost it for a while there.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

AM - Easy 6 miles. Went and ran on the paved river trail, and bumped into Cody on the way back. We ran together until the end of the trail, then I diverted off to the new Macys. They are having their grand opening of their new store, and mailed out coupons for free eclairs, free sausage, and free deli salad. I hate Macys almost as much as Walmart, but love free stuff even more, so I decided to check it out. I managed to get the sausage and some seafood salad, but they were out of eclairs and wouldn't have more until 10AM. Seeing as to how is was 6:45AM, I wasn't about to wait around, so I took my other plunder and ran back home 2 miles carrying a bag of meat and salad. Al Gore would have been proud, especially since today is a Red Burn Day here in Logan. It's too bad, though, because I really wanted the eclairs. I was looking forward to eating a six-pack of them at work this morning with multiple cups of coffee. Oh well. Oatmeal it is.

My SI joint had been bothering me for the last two weeks, but I went in to the chiropractor for my monthly appointment last night, and he got my hips rotated back into alignment. Running felt much smoother today. It's always great to get the ol' body fixed up and tuned correctly. Running has been "blah" over the last week or so, mostly because of SI discomfort and feeling biomechanically "off". This morning was very enjoyable, and I had more hop in my step. Hopefully it will stick and not immediately slide back.

(Adrenaline yellow: 416 miles)

I just had a good laugh. I clicked on the "real age" banner ad out of curiosity and annoyance (I'm kind of sick of seeing it), and I took the "real age" test. Although my calendar age is 27.7 years, my RealAge is 18.5! That's funny to me, since that's exactly how old I look. Whenever I fly with my boss for business trips, the ticket counter people assume I'm his son and ask me if I even have a drivers license. It's one thing to get carded at the bar, but another to be asked if you're even 16-years old! Anyway, click on that banner ad for a good chuckle to give Sasha a little ad revenue.

PM - Did 8 miles (Landfill Loop) at 6:48/mile pace. 8x100m strides near the end. Nice day, other than the inversion.

(Adrenaline orange: 102 miles)



Comments
From Cody on Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:24:59

Too bad about the eclairs. My wife is heading in later today to give it a shot. Mmmm eclairs....

Could you shoot me the info for the chiropractor for my free visit?

From dutch on Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:05:17

mmmm...eclairs.

i brought my french press to work today and treated myself to freshly ground Aztec Gold along with a piece of banana bread. (yes, dc is making me progressively more domestic. How's that work??)

Paul--what is the name of the cool rolly deep massage gizmo you have again? i'm going to need one--feeling a little tight these days, and unwilling to pay for the human kind.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:11:01

Cody, see my email for chiro info.

Ben, they rolly dealy is TPMassageBall.com

From Cody on Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 15:16:47

Paul,

I am 26.9 years old according to a calendar and 17.9 according to the RealAge Test. It says I should floss more. I guess if your teeth fall out you do look older. What a waste of time other than for a laugh. I hope Sasha enjoys the $0.0056 dollars my clicking on the banner got him.

From steve ashbaker on Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 21:19:20

You have to really, otherwise training becomes an indescernible mish mash I think. Real long term progression can not be made like this. I have trouble staying consistent as it is!

From Jon on Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 10:08:36

My age: 28.5

"RealAge": 18.9

From David Nelson on Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 15:18:47

I have the maturity of a 13-year-old boy. Does the website calculate that?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

For those interested in the Striders 10-miler this weekend, I've posted my thoughts and some analysis of it on my personal blog.

Ran an easy 10 miles in the evening around River Heights and Providence, most of it with Jon. Beautiful day.

(Adrenaline black: 329 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.000.000.008.00

I've posted a map-making tutorial on my personal blog, and some screenshots of the WRC 10-mile course. Check it out if you're interested.

Easy 8 miles out to First Dam and back along 10k course. Did some very short striders too.

(Adrenaline yellow: 424 miles)

Race: Striders Winter Racing Circuit 10-miler (10 Miles) 00:55:20, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.0010.000.000.0016.00

Striders 10-miler. Dee Events Center (again). Weather was overcast with an occasional ray of sun. Light breeze, enough to be noticeable as a headwind at times, and cool temperatures, in the lower 40s. Pretty good racing conditions, and just warm enough to go with the singlet and shorts (and gloves).

My goal today was to back off a little at the beginning and then race very hard the last half. This would ensure a quality workout, a good overall finish, and faster recovery. I also wanted revenge on that last hill of the race from the 10K, and going out a little slower would help that cause.

The field was good, but a little less dense that the 5k and 10k. I think people are a little tired of racing every other week, and are tired of painfully difficult courses. Plus, 10 miles is not a popular distance. I suspect that those not committed to the entire series just stayed home.

Right at the gun, Joe jumped out to a lead, and no one bothered going with him. I soon found myself running with Bob, and by the end of the first mile, we had separated from the rest of the pack. Joe was already was out ahead by that point. I did not intend to get out this fast relative to the pack, but I had someone to run with and the pace felt good, about MP. However, the first couple miles were downhill, and although it felt very easy, I was a little worried about coming back up them the other way and wondered if I should have stayed back with the others. But for now things were good, and working in with Bob was helping. First two-mile split was 10:55 (missed the 1-mile mark), 3rd mile was 5:53 (long?), 4th "mile" was 4:19 (short; apparently the race cut off a block).

Things got hard around Mile 5, where the course climbed a bit more steeply before it went back down toward the Ice Sheet. Bob dropped me temporarily here, and I went a little bit anaerobic up the hill. This made me uneasy, since there was still over four miles and a really big hill left. But I recovered on the downhill and caught back up to Bob right before we started the "real" climb during Mile 7. Joe, meanwhile, was somewhere out there still, a distant speck. He looked strong, but seemed to have stopped pulling away at least. Mile 5 was 5:43, Mile 6 was 6:17.

Bob and I worked up the big hill (which I've nicknamed "Stairway to Hell"), and again, Bob pulled away toward the crest. But I was still feeling okay and knew that I would be basically home free at the top. I crested the hill and started hammering back down, made up lost ground on Bob, and caught him before Mile 8. We then started working together to try to catch Joe, who seemed to finally be coming back a little. I started to struggle a little, and Bob took over and blocked the headwind for me, and also started surging pretty hard. I was able to work in with him and stay tucked in. But unfortunately Bob's calf went out right before 9 miles, so I went on solo. It was really too bad, because I was just starting to remember how to work with a teammate again. Two people working together can always pull more load than the summation of two individuals working by themselves. Basic rule of pack running, and something I haven't done much since college. It gives me hope for marathon pack running with teammates though. Mile 7 was 6:26, Mile 8 was 5:01, Mile 9 was 5:16.

Regardless, I was feeling good enough with a mile to go to make a good charge up that final hill (a big goal for me) and then have a very good kick during the last 800 meters. I still finished about 25 seconds behind Joe, so some ground was gained, but he ran a very strong, complete race. Final time was 55:20. Last mile was 5:28. Final results are here.

All in all, I was quite happy with this race. It was definitely better than the 10K, and maybe a bit better than the 5K. I still struggled on some of the uphills, but I think there was some improvement, and I seemed to be able to recover and surge well on the downhills. Looking back at the splits, perhaps my uphills were a little better than I originally assessed, but I can only gauge at the time by how I feel (hurting a lot) and by the competition around me (Bob and Joe). So maybe I'm an okay uphill runner, but Bob and Joe are just really good at it, I don't know.

Talking to people with Garmins and to Bill, we generally agreed that the course that was run today was a little short, probably about 0.12 miles, which is exactly one block. Bill said that a block was cut off from the certified course, so there you have it. Regardless, even with adding a minute or so, I'm still very pleased with my time, as I didn't expect to run much under 58:00. The course was pretty fun, and seemed to allow more recovery than the 10K course. It's no wonder that times were relatively faster.

(Burn: 66 miles)

Comments
From Bob on Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 19:19:31

Nice job today Paul. I think you would have had Joe with more real estate.

From Clay Simmons on Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 20:35:35

Great job today Paul. You guy's are amazing, I wish I was younger, but I am not.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. Went for a long walk with my wife and dog to enjoy the nice day. My legs are feeling pretty good after the race yesterday, with less soreness and fatigue compared to the 10K. I think this is due to:

  • The 10-mile course was slightly more forgiving (particularly the first half)
  • Threshold pace is easier to recover from than V02Max (at least for me)
  • The previous races have stressed my body in a positive way and promoted good adaptation

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Gorgeous, wonderful day. About 60 degrees and sunny. I ran the the North Logan-USU loop and did 6x100m striders in the middle. 6:54/mile pace for the run. Felt good, with little soreness or fatigue from the race. I'll try a workout tomorrow.

(Adrenaline black: 339 miles

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.008.000.000.000.0013.00

Yet another awesome day out. I did an 8-mile tempo today on the Young Ward Loop. I didn't have a GPS, so used the grid system wherever I could in order to get splits. First mile was about 5:55. The next couple miles I couldn't get because of irregular-spaced roads. The next four miles I was hitting MP, and was locked in on 5:40/mile. The last mile I scaled it back some and tried to hit about 6:00-pace. The 5:40's felt very comfortable, and I was very happy with this workout. It's nice to run on something pancake-flat, rather than those hills in Ogden! 6:10/mile pace for the overall run.

Did some running with the dog to round out the mileage.

(Adrenaline orange:  115 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 13:46:05

Nice running Paul. I hope I can get to the point in running 5:40 pace comfortable. Looks like your headed for a strong week in mileage.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.500.000.000.000.0010.50

Ran from work to the canal trail and met James. We then ran out to 2nd Dam and back on the River Trail. The trail was free of snow and mud in most places (not all though). In a few days it should be totally dry. Easy pace today, but picked it up on the way back.

(Adenaline black:  350 miles)

Comments
From d on Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 09:49:09

man, that sounds so nice.

don't ever take that river trail for granted. i'd love get on that baby again. it's amazing how it affects how long a run feels like. second dam and back from the BLVD felt like a breeze. that distance feels like not very fun here in VA. i'll be running when i come back in a few weeks. count on it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.500.002.000.000.0013.50

Did a bit of a "fun run" today. I was supposed to do 8x1000m on the track, but I lost my spirit when the the LHS track was in use by a bunch of high school kids. Go figure. So I ran 2 miles at "brisk" pace in the grass field around the school. 6:30/mile pace on the grass. Then I took the shoes off and did 4x200m barefoot strides in the grass. Times were in the 33-34s range. It felt good to go barefoot again. Then I headed up toward USU's campus to try to hit their track, and surged up every hill I hit along the way for a bit of a hill fartlek. Once I got to the track (thankfully it was empty), I did 800m to calibrate the Polar RS800 I'm testing. Then I did a 3200m tempo in 10:40 (5:22, 5:18), which is my goal half marathon pace. It felt pretty solid, but I don't think I could have held it for 11 more miles...Ran down the hill back to my office to finish up. 13.5 miles total for the day, a good overall workout with a lot of variety.

Some Polar RS800 stats:

Ave HR: 149, Max HR 180 (during tempo); Ave HR during tempo: 172

Ave stride length: 4ft, 2in, ave stride length during tempo: 4ft 11in

Ave Cadence: 89, Max Cadence: 103 (during tempo); ave cadence during tempo: 98

It's evident to me that I can waste tremendous amount of time playing with this thing.

Still having some SI irritation. It often goes away by the end of the run, but I just need to keep stretching it, and the chiro will help too. Also, the ball of my foot (just underneath my big toe) has been hurting lately. I need to keep an eye on it, but I'm not sure what it is. It has been going on at very low levels for several weeks, or even months, but became more pronounced after the 10-mile race. Maybe it's time to ditch the orthotics...

(Adrenaline orange:  129 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Easy distance. Ran around Providence and then on paved river trail, then back home. Nice day. I ran today without my custom orthotics, just my OTC PowerSteps. It felt a little weird, and definitely a lot lighter. And my head didn't explode, nor did the sun crash into the moon because of it. The reason I tried this is because I was hypothesizing that the ball of my foot was hurting because of too much pressure due to the heel lift of the orthotic. Today the ball of my foot felt a bit better, a good sign, but more runs will prove this or not. It's possible that I've worn out the orthotic (I've already put 1400 miles on them, which is probably beyond "typical" use), or my body has changed since the pressure test, thereby making the orthotic ineffective. Or both. SI joint felt a bit better this morning as well, and stayed good during the run.

7:30/mile pace. Ave HR 141.

(Adrenaline black: 359 miles

Comments
From Mike on Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 17:01:36

Congratulations on getting out of your orthotics. You are almost completely recovered.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 19:53:09

I still have some pyschological healing to do. Believe it or not, I still sleep in a splint! It's basically a placebo at this point.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.700.000.000.000.0016.70

Went to Lava Hot Springs last night, and then soaked in the springs most of this morning. Needless to say, when I got home I felt more like taking a nap than doing on long run, but fortunately I had Jon, James, Cody, and Dan to run with today. We ran from the canal trailhead (dugway) and ran to the end of the River Trail and back (Guivena Malibu). The trail was icy and muddy in some spots, but much of it was in very good shape. Another week like this last week should melt the rest of the ice. Conversation abounded and pace was slow (8:15/mile). Just what the doctor ordered for today. Plus the soft surface was good, and I broke in my new Brooks Cascadia's. They are now completely covered with mud, so no longer tennis ball green.

Ave HR 139

Ave Cadence 89

Ave stride length 3ft 7 in (much shorter strides on the slippery trail)

(Cascadia: 20 miles

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 20:59:37

Your Timex is giving you the cadence? Do you think I could get it if I got Garmin 305 cadence sensor for the bike?

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 10:35:12

Sasha,

Alas, I had to send the Timex back. But I am now testing the Polar RS800, which is a foot pod device like the Suunto. I like it quite a bit so far, the cost is very prohibitive. But it does give ave and max cadence and stride length for each lap. Pretty cool.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.000.000.000.007.00

Easy run to end of paved river trail and then to LHS rec fields to do a couple laps in the grass and then 4x200m barefoot striders. Ran home and then did a few blocks with the dog. Didn't bother wearing a watch today, so no idea of pace.

The ball of my foot has been feeling pretty stable, and seems to have even gotten a little better since Thursday. I still feels a little bruised/inflammed when I push down on it, but doesn't bother me much while walking or running. I think switching to the lower-heel OTC insert has helped. So far no complications from not wearing my custom orthotics, now for the third day in a row.

(Adrenaline yellow: 430 miles

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.500.005.000.000.0013.50

Workout day. I ran up to the USU track, and did a 2-mile tinman tempo along the way (6:00/mile pace or so) to warm up. On the track, I did 8x1000m at CV pace (~5:15/mile) with 200m rest (1:10). I took 600m (3:00) after the 4th interval to break it up into two sets. The workout felt very good, and I hit my time goals. The ball of my foot was rather tingly and swollen-feeling by the end, but not really it any pain. Ran home afterward, iced the foot, drank some gatorade, and ate couple cookies before going back to work. HR peaked at 187 on the last interval, when I cranked it up a little bit the last lap. Feels good to be on a track!

(Adrenaline orange: 143 miles)

 Interval TimeAve HR Cadence Stride Length
 1 3:14.5 171 102 4'10"
 2 3:16.3 175 100 4'10"
 3 3:16.0 178 100 4'10"
 4 3:15.6 179 100 4'11"
 5 3:15.6 177 100 4'10"
 6 3:16.3 178 99 4'11"
 7 3:15.1 181 100 4'11"
 8 3:11.8 181 101 4'11"

 

 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 17:31:21

Paul - The stride length does not agree with the other measurements. If you turn over at 200 steps/minute and run 1000 in 3:16, according to my math, your stride length should be 1.53 m or tiny bit over 5 feet. I suppose Polar is a bit off on the distance, reporting it too short.

Also, I think your max heart rate might be a bit down from what it used to be.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 18:00:34

Yes, the my Polar is innaccurate at that speed. That's the problem with foot pods: they need to be calibrated for whatever speed you are running. Mine is calibrated for "normal" speed right now. I think the cadence is correct, though. It would be a pain to recalibrate for the "workout of the day" every time you run. I think this is what makes GPS a much better all-around solution.

As far as my heart rate, it's possible that it has dropped (I am older since I last maxed it out, after all), but this workout would not have tested it. CV (critical velocity) is the speed you can hold for about 45 minutes. For me, it would be about 13-k pace, so slower than 10K but faster than threshold. CV heart rate is 92% of max. My last observed max was 202, so I should expect to hit ~185 during the intervals (which I did). This workout was not nearly intense enough to get near my max. I imagine that my max is still around 200, but I don't do V02Max work and I don't race with a monitor so I guess I'll never know!

From steve ashhbaker on Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 18:10:53

What is your max heart rate?

From steve ashbaker on Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 18:16:23

I have observed that the more aerobic I become as a result of conditioning my my max does go down a bit...

From steve ashbaker on Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 18:22:28

Anyway, there is no question that you are in awesome shape!

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 18:31:08

Steve, I don't know what my max is anymore. I hit 202 at the end of the St. George Marathon in 2005. That was the last I've checked. It would make sense it's dropped a little since then, just as a function of age.

From Mike on Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 08:45:51

I reached back into my past and did some experimental analysis of the foot pod data. Using an error estimation of 1 inch per stride length and 1 stride per minute I came up with an error of up to 17.9 meters over the course of a 1000 meter run. That also assumes that you ran 1000 meters and not 990 or 1010 meters. If I remember right, a track is measured 12 inches from the inside rail so if you hug the curves you are running less than 400 meters.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Easy 9-mile North Logan out-and-back. 7:08/mile pace. Ave HR was 146 (a little high), perhaps not as easy as I thought...some recovery is needed from the workout yesterday. Ball of foot felt pretty good. SI feels decent.

Ave stride length: 4'0"

Ave cadence: 91

(Adrenaline black: 368 miles)

Comments
From James on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 00:51:16

Paul,

I haven't been running that much since recovering from my injury (most distance in a week has been 10 miles), but if you don't get any responses and can get me some of the easier legs, I already live in the Phoenix area (east mesa) and may be able to participate. However, I would only be running at around 7:30-8:00 mile pace. If that works for you, and you don't get any other takers, please let me know.

James

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:44:35

James,

The slot we need to fill are some of the easier legs. Your pace is similar to the guy you would be replacing.

I'm waiting to hear back from some of the people I talked to yesterday. I've given them "priority", but if they don't want to, I'll let you know.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 08:28:44

Looks like we're all set for the relay.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.500.000.000.000.009.50

Easy distance (Landfill Loop), plus 4x150m barefoot striders in the grass. 7:06/mile pace. Ave HR 150. Over cast and cool, a nice day for running.

(Adrenaline yellow:  439 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.300.000.000.000.0014.30

For anyone interested, I've posted on entry on my personal blog about the potential effects of taking days off. The entry stems from a message board discussion here, so mostly other people's ideas, but an interesting topic.

**********************************

Ran up to Dry Canyon, then did the Deerfence/Bonnville trail over to Millville Canyon. No snow, very little mud, and generally good footing (for that trail anyway). I tried to work the hills up to the trail and then work hard on the trail itself to get a good aerobic (and occasionally anaerobic) workout it. Kept the HR above 160 for most of this run and averaged around 7:30/mile. Once I got off the trail, I tried to keep a 6:30 pace for most of the rest of the run, which put my HR in the mid- to upper-150s. All in all, a good medium-long run and a good workout without being too format about it.

(Cascadias: 34 miles)

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 14:44:00

My take on it. In the Ten Commandments it says: "Six days shalt thou labor, and on the seventh shalt thou rest". There are two parts to the commandment - part one, work really hard for six days, and part two, take a break for a day. I believe the commandment came from God, and one reason He told us to do so is that He made our bodies so they operate best on the 6-1 regimen. With that in mind, my approach is to run so hard Monday through Saturday so I do not feel like running on Sunday. However, not so hard to not make me want to run the following Monday.

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 15:35:55

I used to run on Sunday but and at the time I felt it helped me more in the mental area than anywhere. I now choose to honor the sabbath day and personally it has not hurt me. I run twice a day quite often, Are you telling me 7x a week is superior to 8-12x a week with one 24hr period to completely rest the mind and body? Maybe it works for you and thats fine. But as for me the spiritual benefits far outweigh what little physical gain I could possibly receive. By the way I happen to know for a fact that Ryan Hall does not run on Sunday...

From Mike on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 15:36:49

Sasha,

Your argument assumes that running is work, Sunday or any other day of the week.

I agree that you can have great success with running 6 days a week. Sasha has done a good job of using Sunday as a recovery day. I personally like to run long on Sunday, after Mass of course. There are times in my training when taking a day off means that I am sick. Other times I am more willing to listen to aches and pains. After marathons I have always regretted running too soon. My point, if there is one, is that you need to have a reason to run. Whether it is a hard workout, base miles, recovery, pure barefoot-in-the-grass joy, it should be about training. The same with days off.

In the traditional Kenyan system the runners take at least a month off a year. Ethiopian Haile Gebresalassie runs twice a day every day except for Christmas. Both have had success because each of them do it for a reason.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 15:51:06

Steve - Ryan Hall did run on Sunday when he set his half-marathon record. That said, I still firmly believe in not training or racing on Sunday. I think in addition to the temporal blessing attached to the natural 6-1 pattern, there are less tangible spiritual blessing that come into play that will affect your running among other things.

Mike - running is sure work. At least when you try to be competitive. Sometimes it is more enjoyable than at other times. Just like any other kind of job. Sometimes it is fun, sometimes it is not, but if you want good results, you go out and do it no matter the weather or your mood.

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 16:03:24

Thats news to me then because in an interview he said that he did not while others did.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 16:05:24

Maybe what he meant is that he did not train on Sundays.

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 16:10:09

Either way to me it is only one part of a mix of ingredients that enable one to become successful. We all are free to choose our own path and thats the way God meant it to be.

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 16:12:52

Either way to me it is only one part of a mix of ingredients that enable one to become successful. We all are free to choose our own path and thats the way God meant it to be.

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 16:30:50

Thats news to me then because in an interview he said that he did not while others did.

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 16:35:24

Sorry about the reloaded pages, I was trying to refresh the page for new replys and instesd it only reloaded my entrys.

From Mike on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 16:43:05

Paul's original question was about effects of taking days off, not just Sundays.

Sasha, how dare you accuse me of having a job. I enjoy my joblessness and will not tolerate anyone thinking that I work. It wreaks my "kept man" status. No W-2's here.

Back to the point I was trying to make. A planned day off is a training method. It has its place in a program. Sasha and Steve have used it well. I don't because it is not part of my program. I take days when my body needs a day. I could have run through my last foot problem but I've learned from Paul not to force it. I learned it on this site and his blog. Thanks Paul. Running last week would have been for pride.

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 17:19:23

Well, in the end you may very well be right about the performance issue. But Im still going take a day off and that day is Sunday. I just left a job for that reason. So for me it is about the sabbath.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 17:59:26

Wow, I leave to go run for a couple hours, and I come back to vigorous debate! Thanks for the input though, everyone has really good points. I was hoping to drum up some good discussion and challenge people a little bit (including myself). In case yoiu can't tell, I like playing "devil's advocate". Also, keep in mind I was pulling most of that stuff off another site. It's a good thread to read if you haven't already.

I agree with Mike that running is not necessarily "work" (which I why I don't have a problem running on Sunday despite my evangelical protestantism). I consider my little Sunday trail runs and watchless jaunts to be "play" even. I's quite invorgorating and even spirtual to me, a time for meditation and worship. But play to one man can be work to another.

Mike also makes a good point about training programs. When I was coming back from injury, I started at 4 days/week running, then 5, then 6, with x-training supplementing some of the other days. The days off were important for me to insure steady progress and monitor my body. Currently I'm healthy, with a big base, and NOW it fits in my training program to run a couple weeks in a row without a day off. But before it would have been suicide. Like I said in the blog, lots of good reasons to take a planned day off.

Hey guys, thanks for a good debate! It's great to have a friendly discussion about training (and life) philosophies.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 18:26:14

Steve: I think you are right, running 8-12x per week with a day off would be better than 7x per week with no days off. Similar principle: running more often makes you faster!

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 21:58:39

Thanks for eveybodys input. I know I can be opinionated and a bit too serious at times.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

9 miles, easy pace. Ran up to 1st Dam and came back on canal trail, then ran south to Stewart Nature Park, did a loop, and came home. Feel a little beat up from the hills yesterday. Ave HR 143.

(Adrenaline black: 377 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.500.004.000.000.0019.50

AM - Easy 8.3-mile run with Cody this morning. Ran up to USU track and did some 100m striders. Hit a nice pace going back down. 7:15/mile pace overall.

(Adrenaline orange: 151 miles)

PM - Ran 11.2 miles with Cody and James down Blacksmith Fork via 2-car shuttle. I wanted to get a good downhill workout in preparation for the Ogden half and the Ogden marathon. The plan was to warm up for a couple miles and then do a 4-mile tempo at half marathon pace. I would hoping I would be able to run 5:15-5:20 pace on the downhill and have it feel easy. Unfortunately, a strong headwind damped both my spirits and my stride. I ran 22:20 for the tempo, so a 5:35/mile average. HR was in the upper 170s (88-89% max) for the bulk of it. I felt like I could never get going and that there was never "enough" downhill. Still, it was a good workout, and my pace was very steady on all the splits I got. I actually felt pretty good afterwards during the rest of the run (aside from being very hungry), and the 7:00-pace was comfortable. So that was good.

Ave HR for entire run: 152

Max HR during tempo: 181

Ave pace for entire run: 6:30/mile  

I feel like I don't really have a great indicator of my true race potential right now. All of the Ogden races have been so hilly that times are meaningless. I was hoping this workout would give me an idea of where I'm at, but the headwind made it hard to correlate to the Ogden course. My body got the workout it needed for sure, but my mind is still wondering. I'm pretty sure that sub-1:10 should be doable though.

81 miles for the week (yea!). 79 miles scheduled for next week. 

(Burn:  77 miles)


 

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 21:47:11

Hi Paul, do you know the percentage of declination in the Ogden half?

From James on Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 00:02:08

Thanks for the good run today. I hope you made it to your dinner appointment before they ate everything without you.

Sorry that you weren't able to get a good idea of the shape you are in from the workout this afternoon. I'm sure that the headwind and earlier running this week and today had something to do with that. I do know that you are in excellent shape, and you sure make it look easy.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:40:04

Steve: its about a -1.2% grade.

From Mike on Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 13:51:11

Nice week. I am very impressed that you have stuck to your planned increases without getting too excited. It is easy with the beautiful weather to run too much and blow all of your good training.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.500.000.000.000.006.50

Easy run out to the end of the canal trail and back. Didn't wear a watch. Glorious morning out.

(Adrenaline yellow: 445 miles)

Comments
From James on Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 23:23:26

Paul,

Remember when we ran the Bonneville trail 5 miler that guy showed up in XC spikes and cleaned everyone's clocks. And we were like, "who is this guy", and we never saw him or heard of him again. Well his name is David Danley, and he won the half marathon in Moab this year. Anyways, just some useless information that I found kind of funny because I was talking about that guy a couple of weeks ago and wondered who he was and where he came from. And then he showed up again out of no where and won that race.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 10:42:08

Does he live in Logan?

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 17:56:55

His is from Vernal. He was 3rd in St. George last year, barely missed the qualifier.

From James on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 09:53:51

Sasha is right, he lives out around the Vernal area. I didn't realize that he took third in St. George until Trever Ball was telling me about him. I guess he was a pretty good 10,000 meter runner at USU. He ran with Trever and Mike Nielson, I had just never heard of the guy before.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 10:51:34

Now that I remembered better, he is actually from Roosevelt.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Ran the landfill loop with Dave. Dropped Dave off and did a couple extra miles with 6x100m strides. Averaged 7:05/mile pace for the run. Ave HR 143. Felt very good today.

(Adrenaline orange: 153 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.204.000.000.000.0016.20

Rainy, nasty day today. Unfortunately, I needed to do a longer workout today, weather good or bad. I ran the first 7 miles with Dave, averaging around 7:10/mile. It rained pretty hard on us, and my shirt was soaked, plus I lost feeling in my hands. I dropped Dave off at home, changed my shirt and shoes, and put some gloves on, and then ran over to the gym. I ran 6:20/mile pace on the way to the gym. The rain let up a little bit too, which helped. At the gym I jumped on the treadmill for 40 minutes, and started at 6:30/mile pace, and bumped up the pace every 5 to 10 minutes -- 6:15, 6:00, 5:52, 5:45, 5:39. So it was a nice progression up to marathon pace. At 5:39 pace my HR was steady at 168. Ave HR for the run was 150. Ave pace for the entire run was 6:45/mile.

I wore the Polar foot pod while on the treadmill. Its pace measurement was dead on up to 6:00/mile pace. Then as I ran faster and faster, and the pod drifted, displaying slower speeds. I found this same trend while doing track intervals last week; the pod was accurate at normal pace, but not at CV interval pace (5:10-5:15/mile). This is because (I suspect) that the my stride is different enough at higher speeds to invalidate the calibration, which was performed at lower speeds. For this one reason (in my mind), GPS is superior to foot pods: it works at any speed and any stride.

(Cascadia:  41 miles)

(Adrenaline black: 387 miles)

Comments
From Mike on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 17:44:33

I experienced the same effect while doing tempo runs with the footpod. While running on the des news the footpod was right on. When I sped up the pace said 6:15. Why do I care about the pace when I'm running slow? I care if I'm running 10 seconds too fast or slow while doing an interval.

Thanks for the encouragement lately. I am headed back to PT Thursday.

From James on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 17:57:30

From James on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 17:58:51

That was me in the white truck that honked at you and Dave when you were running in the rain by the Temple.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 18:01:10

Yeah, I was wondering who that was...

From Chad on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 18:39:07

Paul--I couldn't agree with you more about your observations on the footpod.

From Superfly on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 20:01:48

Paul I was going to do a run on Thursday night and Friday morning as well. If you want you guys can wait for me on Thursday and we can go around 3:30 or 4 p.m. after I get there. Then later we can do something for dinner.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.500.000.000.000.008.50

Ran with the del Sol team through Providence before our pre-race meeting and BBQ. Nice easy pace. It made up for the nasty cold, wind, and rain. It's fun running with a pack. Makes me feel tough. I fly to PHX tomorrow.

(Adrenaline yellow: 454 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:06:15

We should have our pack run over cars and make them turn to avoid us, since that is usually what they do to us.

Are you saying you usually aren't tough?

From Bob on Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:37:58

Good luck Paul!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.500.000.000.000.008.50

Nice easy run with Dave and Clyde in Phoenix. We found a very nice paved trail to run on near our hotel on 44th and McDowell. Ran near 6:30 pace and slower. Did 4x100m strides.

(Adrenaline orange: 162 miles)

Race: Relay del Sol (187 Miles) 19:10:57, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.500.005.800.000.0012.30

AM - Easy 5-mile pre-race morning run with Clyde and Dave. Pace around 7:30/mile. Similar route to last night.

(Adrenaline orange: 167 miles)

8 PM - My first leg of Relay del Sol (Leg 5). Borrowed Sasha's Garmin and warmed up for 1 mile. Since AZ doesn't do daylight savings, it was quite dark by this time. Temperatures were in the low 60's, and very little wind. Dan came in to the exchange and we had a clean handoff, and I took off. I basically wanted this to be a good threshold run. The leg started on a gentle downhill, and I did the first half mile in 2:30, 5:08 for the first mile. Everything felt very good, and I could feel the lower elevation difference. There was a gentle climb from Mile 1.5 to Mile 3.5, and my pace slowed to 5:30/mile on this stretch, but still felt very strong. From 3.5 to the finish (5.8), I had a nice gentle downhill, and I opened it up along this stretch and averaged 5:00/mile, including a 4:58 mile near the end. Average pace for the overall leg was 5:15/mile. I was very pleased with this, as I felt like I could have kept going at this pace for another 5 miles or so. Good start to the relay. Cooled down about a half mile afterwards.

Team-wise, at this point we were running very well. Dave, Clyde, Dan, Jon, and I all exceeded our projected paces by quite a bit, and Sasha was right on his projected pace. We started the race with 4 teams in our wave (the other 70 teams started in waves earlier in the morning and afternoon), and it became apparent after the first couple legs that it would be a two-team race between ourselves and Google; the other two teams were way back. Google, however was putting distance on us with most of their runners. They have a very good team, including a 3:39 1500m runner who has run Oly trials. They also had very nice matching warmups and uniforms. We had a scruffy-looking bunch of people and a van without working doors. It had all the makings of a really bad sports movie.

To be continued.

(Burn: 84 miles)

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 19:32:07

Would have liked to have entered the relay but had a lot of things happening this week. Glad to hear you have Sasha. Is there a good chance you guys may win this thing?

From Bill on Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 23:00:43

Paul.

good luck with the relay. bring home the gold!

From Jon on Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:05:20

They also had very nice matching warmups and uniforms. We had a scruffy-looking bunch of people and a van without working doors. It had all the makings of a really bad sports movie.

I love it!

Race: Relay del Sol (187 Miles) 19:10:57, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
2.000.007.403.400.0012.80

Day 2 of Relay del Sol

Caught a couple hours of sleep at Exch 12, on the wrestling mats in the high school gym the exchange was at. It wasn't the best-quality sleep, but I definitely dozed a bit.

Van 2 came in around 12:30AM. They too were exceeding their projected times, and they managed to close the gap on the Google team by a few minutes. I can't remember exactly, but I think we were about 4 minutes behind after 12 legs.

Dave, Clyde, Sasha, and Dan all ran exceptionally well again, to start our next series (leg 13-18), but Google ran even better, and by the time I got the baton for Leg 17, we were slightly over 10 minutes back. I could be wrong here, as my memory is fuzzy. I'm sure Sasha will know.

My Leg 17 was around 3:30AM, so it was still, and around 50 degrees temperature. No wind. Good conditions for fast running. This leg, though, was 7.3 miles and on a steady 1% uphill grade that gained 384 ft over 7.3 miles. I was a bit concerned about it, but once I started running, it didn't seem very bad at all. I guess all those Ogden Striders races have served a purpose in that I can't feel hills anymore until they are over 6% in gradient.

I wanted to get another threshold workout out of this leg, and just let my body guide my pace and the garmin report it. For the first half of the leg I was running consistent 5:40 miles. I was feeling very good, so I pushed it a little harder on the second half of the leg to 5:35 miles. I lost 15 seconds slowing down and even stopping for various stop lights, but other than that, no mishaps. The leg ended up being about a block long, as exchange 17 was a bit further than my maps had it. Oh well. Ended up averaging 5:40/mile for the leg. By this point in the race, we were passing teams that started before us, and I mananged to pass 4 other runners during this leg. Better yet, I was able to close the gap on Google by 4 or 5 minutes. I was very happy with how it went, and felt that I would have enough juice for a good V02Max workout on the final leg.

Jon ran very well on his leg, and we gave the baton to Van 2. Time for another siesta. This time I didn't have much time to sleep, but did managed to close my eyes for a few minutes in the van while sitting at the Exch 24 parking lot.

Van 2, meanwhile, ran the legs of their lives and amazingly closed the gap on Google to 20 seconds by the time they handed the baton back to us. Over 110 miles into it, we had a true race on our hands! We thought that if we could just keep things close during our final leg set, we could at least give Van 2 a chance to win it. Google's Van 1 was definitely faster than our Van 1, but we hoped to do some damage control.

It was light again by this point. Dave, Clyde, Sasha, and Dan all ran their hearts out, and when I received the baton, we were about 4 minutes back. This was a lesser spread than our previous sets, so we were "outperforming" them in a way, by reducing the relative difference.

My last leg (28) looked to be quite fast, judging by the profile. It was only 3.4 miles and mostly downhill, with about a 2.5% gradient. This is somewhere between Top of Utah and St. George, as far as downhills go. I've been running downhill well so far this year, and hoped to hit 5:00 miles or under for this last leg, and leave whatever energy I had left out on there on the road.

Temperature was about 70 degrees, so a little warm, but not too bad. However, there was a noticeable headwind, not a total killer, but big enough to slow me down a bit. I averaged 5:06/mile, which I was happy with considering the headwind. I mananged to dip under 5:00/mile pace during the last half mile. Plus I closed the gap on Google by about a minute.

Jon maintained the gap, so Van 2 started their last set of legs only 3 minutes behind. However, we did not have our cheesy, stereotypical sports movie ending. Google pulled away from our rag-tag bunch during the last 6 legs and won by about 10 minutes. They ran 18:59:39, which is 6:05/mile for 187 miles. We ended up around 19:10:57, which is 6:08/mile. We finished 45 minutes ahead of our original projected time, meaning everyone ran incredibly awesome as a team. Third place was an hour and 40 minutes behind us. Results are here.

Not only did the race end not end like a Hollywood sports movie, but Google did not turn out to be the Hollywood sports movie villain either. They did not cheat, try to sabotague us, or wear evil mustaches. Rather, they were very nice, were great competitors, and gracious winners. We enjoyed talking to them throughout the race and afterwards at the finish line. Great job Google!

Cody and James (who were in Van 2) may write about this to verify, but it seemed like we gave it our all during the middle of the race just to surge up to Google and stay as close as we did. By the very end, Google had a bit more gas left in the tank for a knockout punch. But this is how to race, whether it be a relay or individual event. Sometimes it's necessary to take a gamble and surge hard just to stay with someone, and they pray that either you can do it one more time or that the competitor is hurting worse than you are. But races are often won by taking chances like that. And there was certainly nothing to lose.

I also think that one reason (besides altititude reduction, nice weather, and good training) that we all ran so well is that during events like relays you can relax and run without pressure. You can try things you wouldn't normally try, as there is really no consequence. Yes, we competed with Google, but really it was a big game, one that was fun to play. Being able to relax and "play the game" without worrying about PR's and such I think helps people to run faster in some cases. Just my opinion.

Check out the blogs of Cody, Dan, Dave, Jon, James, Clyde, and Sasha for their personal experiences and thoughts about the relay.

(Burn: 93 miles)

(Adrenaline orange: 166 miles)



Comments
From Bill on Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 00:03:16

Well done Paul. you guys are true champions.

From Chad on Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:54:52

Great result! Congrats! Looks like everyone excelled both individually and as a team.

From wheakory on Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 13:45:05

Nice running Paul! What a great accomplishment to be so close to the other team. Your relay legs are very impressive

times. How is the recovery going, if you needed any recovery?

From Superfly on Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 14:13:26

Paul-

Thanks for the fun time. I really enjoyed the race and am pumped to run the WBR with you guys in June. You look amazing. You ran very good and looking at some of your races in the Strider thing you look to be right on track. IMHO if you keep it up the rest of the summer you'll be running 2:19:00 or lower at STGM. Very impressive.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Scheduled day off.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Easy distance run from my office to a couple miles of the Logan River Trail and back via the canal trail. Aside from tight hamstrings and a "beat-up" feeling near my ankles, I feel alright after Relay del Sol. I think I'll recover alright for the half marathon this weekend, although it's yet to be determined whether I'll do any workouts this week or just rest up instead.

Oh, our del Sol team is famous now. 

(Adrenaline black: 397 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 21:56:31

That is cool that they blogged about it, too. Too bad we can't respond on their blog. I wonder if they will find ours.

From ashman on Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 22:38:24

Great work Paul! Wish I could of been there! You guys made an awesome team it sounds like.

From d on Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 08:56:38

Good job and all, but I have yet to read anything about post-relay brurgers. I'm a strange mix of offended and appalled.

From dutch on Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 08:57:21

oops. d as in dutch. the tall one.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:19:07

Actually, Dave and I cheated and had brurgers before the race. They were not as good as when they are cooked over an open fire in Moab though.

From Jon on Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:28:41

We ate at Fuddruckers Saturday night, so we all had big juicy burgers. Does that satisfy you, Ben?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

Ran from work to canal trail to Bonneville Shore Trail to Green Canyon, then up Green Canyon, turned around and went back down into Logan. Tried to get a good aerobic workout in, and worked the uphills on the trail pretty hard. I hit 5:40/mile pace coming out of Green Canyon, including a stretch at 5:10/mile pace. It's a nice downhill. Did 4x100m strides after Green Canyon, then tried to keep a good 6:30/mile pace back to the office. Alas, it was not enough to catch the 7-minute guy, as all of the slow hills and trail running in the first half slowed me down. Finished averaging 7:04/mile for the run. Ave HR 152. Soreness is gone from del Sol, although there is some residual fatigue. I'll imagine I'll freshen up during my mini-taper before the half marathon.

(Adrenaline orange:  180 miles)

Comments
From dutch on Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 08:40:13

Paul, remind me where the striders course is. Is this a fairly fast course?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 09:18:46

Ben, it's the same course as the NUTS half we did last year: Ogden Valley area. It is a very fast course.

From dutch on Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 13:16:32

cool!

wish i could join you.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

For anyone interested, I've added a post to my personal blog about running doubles.

******

Easy run - landfill loop via paved river trail. Didn't track pace, but felt like 7:00-7:30/mile range. Went to LHS fields afterwards and did 4x200m barefoot strides in grass - 37, 36, 35, 33. Felt okay, but not great.

(Adrenaline yellow: 464 miles)

Comments
From Cody on Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 16:12:47

Cool picture of the relay. How did you get it? Screen Shot??

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 16:19:23

Screenshot.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.500.000.000.000.007.50

Easy run with Jon. Did canal trail loop with little out-and-back to 1st Dam. Legs are feeling a bit better, but are still thankful for rest. Hopefully they will be fully recovered by Saturday. I think based on my race performances and especially del Sol, I should be able to break 1:10 on Saturday, assuming conditions are good.

I still have "Bingo" stuck in my head. B - I - N - G - O !!

(Adrenaline orange:  188 miles)

Comments
From David Nelson on Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 22:00:19

You had to do that, didn't you? Tear it up Saturday, sub-1:10 would be nice.

From Superfly on Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 22:54:15

So I finally got it out of my head and there it is again.

"And running was his game- O !!"

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 12:57:41

We will have our family choir perform BINGO in the middle of the race tomorrow for anybody who requests it. I am requesting it, so anybody who is with me at that point will get to hear it, and then possibly for the rest of the race.

From Chad on Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 13:07:08

Paul, based on your new photo, it looks like your training is really starting to pay off. Good luck tomorrow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.500.000.000.000.005.50

Easy taper day. Ran Landfill Loop with Jon.

Race: Striders WRC Half Marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:09:27, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.500.0013.100.000.0017.60

Striders Half Marathon today. Weather was absolutely perfect for fast running: clear, cool (~45-50 degrees), and no wind. The course has a good layout for fast running: Gentle downhill for 7 miles, followed by small rolling hills for the last 6. My training and racing has been good lately, but my only worry was whether or not I was recovered from Del Sol. I didn't feel very spunky for most of the week, although I was feeling better on Friday.

I jogged around a for about a mile before the race, and everything felt pretty good. Competition at the starting line looked to be excellent: Joe, Bob, Steve, Sasha, Neal, and others who I did not know as well. I was most worried about Bob and Joe, although I had a strong gut feeling that Steve would bust out this race and bring some competition as well.

Special guest Jeff Galloway started the race. Although I'm not a big fan of his methods, I do like what he has done for the sport and all the new people and exposure he has brought. So that was neat. I took to the lead of the pack from the gun. I'm not sure why I did this, as I usually like to hang back, but today it felt right. The first half mile was probably the slowest of the race, due the the race starting on an uphill. Once we crested the hill, I got my coveted downhill, and opened it up to try to get into my race rhythm and also to start stringing out the pack, which seemed too large and was making me uncomfortable.

We soon broke out into a pack of 6: me, Bob, Joe, Sasha, Steve, and Neal. First mile was long (5:52). I think I heard Sasha's GPS beep around 5:25 or so, but not sure. We kept rumbling down the canyon, and I felt very smooth. Mile 2 was 5:12. That's better. I wanted to hit 5:15's in on the downhill, figuring I could hold 5:25's on the last half to come in at 1:10. Mile 3 was 5:15. Mile 4 was 5:10. Still feeling very very good. By now I wasn't hearing Sasha's beeps, so I knew he had dropped back. I was still leading the pack with Bob, but could count a total of 5 shadows, so I knew Joe, Steve, and Neal were still there.

Mile 5 was 5:12, Mile 6 was 5:13. Nothing hurting, good rhythm. I felt confident that I would at least not fall apart on the last half. Hamstrings were a little tight, but the calves were good and breathing was easy. By the end of Mile 6 there were only two shadows, just Bob and I.

Mile 7 was 5:09. We turned the corner in here somewhere to start our circumnavigation of Pineview Reservoir. No more downhill. Rats. We'll see what the "rollie-pollies" (as Bob called the rolling hills) would do to our pace. Right now I knew I was on pace for 1:09, if I could just hold it...

Mile 8 was 5:13. Apparently losing the downhill would not be a killer. Still working with Bob, but rather surprised we had broken away like that. Running out front makes me paranoid.

Mile 9 was 5:35. Mile 10 was 5:06. I imagine 9 was long and 10 was short, but none of the race mile marks were that trustworthy anyway. Regardless, 5:20/mile pace for two miles, which I could dig.

Bob fell back a little during Mile 10, and I started laboring in here more as well. But I still felt strong and decided to make a big push over the last 5K and finish off the race. I've only won one road race in my life (PC Marathon), and I always get scared when I'm leading. My hands were also pretty numb by this point, and it was difficult to push my watch button to get splits, so I decided to just forget it and do mental math instead, as the watch was a distraction.

Mile 11 was 5:25. I had lost a good amount of leg power by now, and started focusing very hard on increasing my turnover to compensate. Whenever my speed lapsed, I would throw another surge to keep my mind and body focused on the task. Mile 12 was 5:20. Better. By now I was making weird noises, as I usually do late in a race when I'm pushing hard. Fortunately no one was around to make fun of me. Still running paranoid though. I pushed as hard as I could the last mile. At this point I wasn't sure if the course would be short, long, or correct, but either way I would hate to barely miss 1:10.

I turned the last few corners, and knew I must be getting close, but couldn't see the finish line. Finally turned one more corner and had a 200m straight shot. At this point I knew I would break 1:10, but still tried to finish it off hard. Final time was 1:09:27, a new PR by 3:20. Split for last 3.1 miles was 16:28, meaning my last 1.1 miles was somewhere around 5:12/mile-pace.

Bob finished 2nd (1:10:11), then Steve (nice job!, 1:10:57), then Joe (1:11:26), then Neal (1:11:49). Fast times on a fast course! Full results are here. I'm amazed how fast they get these results up!

Cooled down several miles with Bob and the Logan crew, then did another mile on my own. The more I cooled down, the better I felt, but this race definitely worked me over. Judging by how I feel as I type this, I will be sore tomorrow!

Needless to say, I was thrilled with how today went. I knew I was capable of breaking 1:10, but it's a huge release and monkey off my back to actually do it. Also I'm pumped about winning the race amongst such strong competition. In my experience, you only get a couple races a year, or every couple years, where everything just "clicks", and you can tell your body what to do, and it obeys. Today was one of those days. The last day I had like that was St. George in 2005.

According to a race calculator, my time equates to a 2:25:30 marathon, so I suppose my next goal is to break 2:25 at the Ogden Marathon. I still have to register for the race, but I'm for sure planning on running it now. I definitely need to put in some more miles and long runs first, and I plan to hang in the upper 80s to 90 for miles over the next four weeks before my taper.

My new blog mascot is Multiple Man (see photo). Multiple Man was one of my favorite comic book superheroes when I was a kid. He a fairly ordinary guy (couldn't fly, no superstrength, etc.) with one and only one superpower: he could create multiples of himself (dopplegangers). Over the next four weeks I need to be Multiple Man in order to juggle work and family, and still get in my training and proper sleep. Time management is key. And yes, I will be doing "doubles" several days a week now too.

(Burn: 110 miles)

Comments
From David Nelson on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 15:25:13

Nice race Paul, great time. I'm glad you won it. You and the spitfire guy should go get some grub to celebrate.

Was the course the same as last year?

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 15:36:41

Thanks Dave. Actually the start line of the course was about 1.5 miles down the canyon from last year in order to accomodate a finish at Red Moose Lodge. So we lost over a mile of downhill, and had a slight uphill for the last couple miles that wouldn't have normally had.

From Maria on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 15:47:21

Congrats, Paul! That is a serious PR, by 3:20, not to mention winning the race outright - very impressive. You're on a roll now! Good luck training for Ogden, just stay healthy.

From Chad on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 16:10:44

Awesome.

From Cody on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 16:39:48

Paul, You are a machine! I am so impressed. Huge PR, huge win! All after kicking some trash in AZ last weekend. Your training really paid off to recover so quickly and race so well so soon.

From dutch on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 17:34:41

Good work, Paul.

There are no words. Simply no words. You're my superhero. I'm amazed.

From Superfly on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 17:41:46

I knew you would win and that the times would be good. After seeing you run last weekend I could tell your on a mission this year. Good Job.

From Scott Browning on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 18:01:18

Nice Job Paul, you had an outstanding performance today. I guess singing BINGO all week really helped!!!!!

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 18:06:30

Paul:

So far from the empirical data (and we have too very good data points, Ken Richardson and Neal Gassmann), this course looks at least a minute slower than Moab, and very similar to Great Salt Lake. My predictor gives you a sub-2:25 in Ogden, and 2:18:45 in St. George. I stand behind my predictor's numbers. I think if you do not do anything unwise between now and St. George, you've got the qualifier in the bag.

From Dustin Ence on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 22:59:33

Congrats on a big win and a great time. Like Sasha said, we should expect big things this year. I'm still amazed at how fast some of you guys are.

From steve ashbaker on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 23:10:17

Awesome performance! and yes I think mile 9 was long because I got 5:44 for it. Actually, they were all screwed up... Joe Wilson asked me for splits at one point and I told him I did not know really. I blew them off after mile one.

From steve ashbaker on Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 23:14:28

Bill Cobler painted accurate yellow markings, but I did not see them in time really.

From James on Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 00:04:18

Paul,

Nice running today! I am amazed at you your recovery after running so good at Del Sol last weekend. Although, I wasn't surpised that you won today, you are running awesome! I also figured you would run sub 1:10, and PR at the same time. If I was a gambling man I could have made a buck or two. I am glad you ran so well and had a good race, but I don't think it is one of those runs that you will have just once in a while, I am sure you will have a lot more great races this year. I still owe you lunch for winning the race today, but maybe I'll buy you breakfast after a Saturday morning run instead.

From Jon on Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 00:17:56

Good job, and nice report on the race. I will have to hear you making those funny noises sometime.

From Nick on Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 21:21:18

yeaaah! Nice work Paul!

From Dave Holt on Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:31:20

Paul after reading your blog I am pumped! My heart is racing and I am on the edge of my seat. I want to be up there running with, behind - not too far hopefully, you guys. Good luck the rest of the Spring.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.500.000.000.000.005.50

I got up early before church this morning and did a nice, easy post-race shakeout run. Ran to the end of the paved river trail and back out, then through Willow Park, and back home, plus another mile with the dog. It was a beautiful morning: it had just rained, so the air was humid and had that "fresh" feeling to it. Reminded me of running back in Indiana. Plus, I didn't see a single other soul during the run; it was just me, God, and the birds in our outdoor sanctuary. A perfect way to start my Easter morning!

I wasn't as sore as I thought I would be from the race. Just that "beat-up" feeling around my ankles, and a little fatigue in the quads. The run went quite well. I didn't wear a watch, but it was probably around 8:00/mile pace. Yesterday after the race I massaged everything, took a nap, and then went out and played some frisbee with my wife, so did some barefoot running in the grass. My legs actually felt a lot better after that, so I think it's good to keep moving after a race.

Happy Easter everyone!!! 

(Adrenaline yellow:  475 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.000.000.000.000.0011.00

AM - Slept in until 7AM, then got up and ran an easy 4 miles (paved river trail). Legs are still in recovery mode, but have improved noticeably each day since the race, so that's good. If I feel completely recovered tomorrow, I'll try some tempo running.

PM - Another easy 7 miles, this time out to the Hydro Park and back via the canal trail. Pace was 7:35/mile. Ave HR hung out in the upper 130s for most of the run. Everything is feeling pretty good.

(Adrenaline black: 408 miles)

Comments
From Mike on Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 18:27:39

Good race on Saturday. I know the kind of shape that Bob is in so you must be in fantastic shape. Good job on your PR.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

stupid blog lost my entry when I hit submit and I don't feel like typing it all again. Did a workout. 6.5 miles tinman tempo. Windy. 6:30pace into the wind, 5:50 pace with tailwind. 4x100m strides.

(adrenaline orange: 202 miles

Comments
From James on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 20:30:59

The same thing happened to me on Saturday with my race entry, so it took me a couple of days to rewrite it.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 22:37:27

I assume it is because the session times out on you. To keep this from happening until I get around to coding up auto-save, just submit periodically and then re-edit if you are doing a long entry. I do this instinctively being the programmer and knowing how the system works, so it never bites me, which is probably why I have not gotten around to fixing it. If you do get a timeout after typing a long entry - back on the browser, open another browser tab or window, log in, then hit submit again.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 22:50:32

Actually, it was a pretty short entry, without a lot of time between my login and pressing "submit". What happened was that I wanted to look at my previous week in the blog while I was typing the entry so that I could see my shoe mileage. So I clicked "My Blog" and opened another instance. This must have been what messed it up. I do this fairly often though, and it doesn't always cause a time-out.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 22:55:28

This should not have caused a timeout. However, there are many ways to lose a session without a timeout - web server restart between the time you login and the time you submit, or just a browser bug that drops or mangles the session cookie. The solution for this is to implement the auto-save.

From ArmyRunner on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 23:07:23

Same thing happened to me yesterday. Kind of strange that three of us have this happen all of a sudden.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 23:58:22

Could be a bug in handling sessions on the server. See if you can make it happen again on purpose. Then I can debug it and fix it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.250.000.000.000.0014.25

AM - Ran an easy 6 miles with Cody. We did the River Heights Loop. Ave 8:00/mile pace.

(Adrenaline yellow: 481 miles)

PM - Gym-to-gym loop from work, with out-and-back on paved river trail in middle. 8 miles total, 7:10/mile. Felt okay but not great. Stopped at gym in middle of run to weigh myself and do some chinups and arm curls. Weighed in at 130 lbs.

(Adrenaline black:  416 miles)

Comments
From Tim on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:19:42

Thanks for the "Welcome". How long have you been doing music? Did you study it in college? We have a good time. Been doing that for about 8 years. Thanks for checking us out.

I need some help with my marathon time. It's pretty sad. Has this blog spot been very helpful for you? Looks like you're rockin' the time- 2:26 marathon is great.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:25:39

Tim, I've been playing guitar for 11 years, but not very seriously over the last 5 years or so. To be honest, my skills are gradually diminishing, but I still like to play for church. I'm a definite novice, with no formal education in it. My wife is very gifted and passionate about singing though.

This blog has been pretty helpful, mainly as a motivational tool. The commuity is good too. I found that I have run more consistently and run more miles because I have this venue to log it in, plus since it is public, it gives accountability. No slacking on the blog! If you run consistent mileage every week (50-70 mpw), do one or two longer speed sessions per week, and get your long run in, I guarantee your marathon time will drop!

From Roast Beef on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 21:20:26

Paul, You weighed in at 130 lbs. How tall are you?

From Roast Beef on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 21:27:17

I'm 6'1".. what is the perfect target weight for me? How low can I healthily weigh?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 21:53:33

I don't talk to red meat.

From ashman on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 23:25:35

Did you get my e-mail Paul?

From Jon on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 23:27:56

I'll give away Paul's secrets. I think he is around 5'8" or 5'9". Maybe 5'10". As for target weight- it really depends on your body type. What type of build do you have?

From Roast Beef on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 13:16:20

Medium/normal build. With that, what is the lowest I could weigh while staying healthy?

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 14:10:36

Roast Beef - I would guess 155-160 pounds out of the blue, but with more data we could probably find a better number. As a rule of thumb, you should aim for the lowest healthy weight you've ever had since you reached your current height.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 15:07:27

Alright, alright. I generally don't like to respond to people with fake names, as they are usually trolls, but here goes.

I am 5'9". I have weighed as much as 153lbs. The lowest I have weighed at this height was 123, when I was freshman in high school and had no muscle. I run best when I am 130-135 lbs.

Alan Culpepper is 6'1" and weighs 130lbs. No one can say that he is unhealthy, but he is also a genetic freak in some ways, so he probably shouldn't be your role model. Under 140lbs would definitely be considered underweight. 150-160 is reasonable, assuming you have a runner-build and are doing high mileage with a healthy diet. It's impossible to say though, without seeing you.

From Nick on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 17:46:17

Wait, so if I'm 137lbs and 6'1" does this mean that I am too skinny? I never thought I would be that close to Alan Culpepper. Without ever running, I weighed 145 dripping wet out of the shower, but now I weigh anywhere between 135-140 lbs. Even if I ate as much junk food as possible (which I don't), I may gain a pound. Who knows, I guess I'm just weird.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 17:53:49

Nick - I would not complain. If you are healthy and naturally weigh that low being that tall it is perfect. There is no such thing as absolute too fat or too skinny even for the given height. You eat healthy, do the mileage, and your weight will find the golden spot. It will be higher for some people than for others.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 18:37:59

Nick, consider yourself lucky that you are built that much like Alan Culpepper! Many people would be "too skinny" at that BMI, but it is that genetic makeup that helps make elite runners "elite". Keep running and keep chowin' down on food to fuel that engine!

From Roast Beef on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 18:52:08

Guys, thanks for all of your comments and help. I really appreciate it!!

From ashman on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 21:55:46

Im 6'1.5 and 139lbs. Gee I feel pretty good considering I push started a car before! Its all relative...

From Jon on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 22:36:42

I don't want to talk weight. I sadly topped out at about 170 a few months ago... and I'm 5'10". I'm planning to be down to 150-155 by mid summer, and hopefully maybe 145 by fall marathons. Roast Beef, some of us just aren't as skinny as others. Eat healthy, run a lot, and let your body take care of your weight.

Nick, enjoy your college weight while you can. I found it much easier to eat anything and not put on weight at age 18-25 than at age 27+.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

AM - 4 easy miles. Paved river trail. Did 6x100m striders, which felt pretty snappy.

(Adrenaline orange: 206 miles

PM - Jogged the dog around the block, then ran with Ben and Jon on the Logan Canyon River Trail. We took the upper loop to the top of Spring Hollow, and then back down through Spring Hollow Campground and back on the River Trail. It was longer than what I set out to do, but a fun run. It was good to run with Ben again, despite his stinky butt.

(Cascadia: 51 miles)

Comments
From David Nelson on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:13:24

Paul --

I hope a few of those miles were in honor of Kurt Vonnegut. Sorry to hear your favorite writer won't write anymore. So it goes, right?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:17:09

Yes, so it goes. I was bummed to read that, but he was very very old, after all.

Here's a little joke from "Breakfast of Champions" in his honor: *

From dutch on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 15:55:07

I resent that (stinky butt). But I don't deny it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

CV interval workout on the track today. Did 6x1000m with 200m jog in between (~1 minute). Started out by warming up 1 mile, and then doing Tinman Tempo on the way up to the USU track. Averaged around 6:00/mile during tempo, half of which was uphill. I was feeling good, which I was thankful for, since I hate doing track workouts when I'm tired, as they are mentally difficult as it is. The intervals went well too. They were 3:13, 3:15, 3:13, 3:15, 3:13, 3:08. My goal pace was 3:15 (5:12/mile pace), so I hit that. The last interval I opened it up a little bit on the last 600m. HR averaged in the mid-170s for the intervals, and peaked at 184 on the last one. It definitely doesn't tick like it used to...

Ran up through campus after the intervals, and then down to the mouth of Logan Canyon on Hwy 89, and back on Canyon Rd and the canal trail.

Ave HR for entire run 154. Ave pace for entire run 6:45/mile.

(Adrenaline orange: 219 miles)

Comments
From cody on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 16:56:10

Great Workout!

From Jon on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 19:31:57

What is this tinman tempo you always talk about?

From ashman on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 20:40:11

Killer workout!

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 22:24:50

Jon, "Tinman Tempo" is defined as the pace you can hold for 3 hours. It is roughly one minute slower than your 5k pace. Its namesake comes from the fact that the coach that came up with it has the nickname of "Tinman". The idea is that it provides a strong aerobic stimulus without wearing you out, so it's good to do during any phase of training, including base-building. I incorporated it this year and have had a lot of success with it. So has Cody.

From Jon on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 22:30:35

So it's just a bit slower than marathon pace? Maybe 6:15 to 6:30 for me?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 22:40:37

Yes, for a sub-3hr marathoner, it will be a little slower than MP.

From Cody on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 23:36:12

I do one workout a week that includes 4-8 miles of a Tinman Tempo. Paul sold me on the idea and I have seen the positive results. I would suggest it to anyone.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
19.000.000.000.000.0019.00

Jogged around the block with the dog, and then did a long run from my house to the end of the river trail and back (Guiveva Malibu campground) with Jon, James, Dan, Cody, and Mark. We had a big group and beat up some cub scouts here and there. Overall pace averaged around 8:00/mile, but the last mile we did in 6:10 or so just for fun. Didn't feel great today, but got the distance in.

90 miles this week (most since '04), upper 80's scheduled for the next two weeks.

(Cascadia: 70 miles)

Comments
From ashman on Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:54:44

Sounds like my kind of venture!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.000.000.000.006.00

Travel day to El Centro, CA for work. Flew out of SLC into San Diego at 8AM. Had brunch (it's a combination of breakfast and lunch, and comes with a piece of melon, you'll love it...), then drove over to beautiful El Centro. Piddled around for a few hours getting the conference room ready and touching up powerpoints. Finally got out for a run around 6:30PM, and easy 6-miler along the canals with Bryan (guy on project team who happens to be a pretty good runner). Did I mention that El Centro is 100 ft below sea level? Ah, oxygen. The run felt pretty good despite all the travel and a brutal headwind from the west. Hopefully I can get some decent runs in on Monday and Tuesday. It's pretty much damage-control on business trips like this, a getting in a 10-miler is bonus. We'll see...

Comments
From David Nelson on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 11:23:45

It doesn't fill you up, but it's a good meal. Enjoy "the centro."

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Day 2 in El Centro. Did a 6AM 10-miler with Bryan along the canals south of time. Beautiful morning, as far as Imperial Valley goes, shorts and t-shirt weather. This place is a flat as a pancake, and has bad air to boot, thanks to all the bovine universities and Mexicali to the south. But the dirt canal access roads make for some decent running. Don't have any idea of pace, but the Bryan and I agreed that the last half of it felt like sub-7 pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 235 miles

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.000.000.000.007.00

Only had time for 7 miles this morning (Day 3 in El Centro). The rest of the day was filled with non-stop meetings, tutorials, and travel. I'll be glad to be home tomorrow. It took about half the run to wake up this morning, but then Bryan was game for doing a little "brisk" pace on the way back, so we did a few miles at 6:20/mile pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 242 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.500.000.000.000.0014.50

Got up at 4:30AM and flew out of San Diego back to Logan. Slept the entire flight. Then slept for the entire shuttle ride home. Then crawled into bed and slept for 3 hours. Finally got around to going for a run around 5PM, and fortunately the rain and snow had cleared up to sun.

I did a tinman tempo today on the Millville Hills loop. My legs felt pretty bad the entire run, and I knew I was in for a long day when my HR was in the upper 140s at 7:00-pace (about 10bpm high). Still, I managed to average 6:03/mile pace for the 8-mile tempo, which has a lot of long hills. Ave HR for the tempo was 169, and maxed at 181 on one of the long uphills. Ave pace for entire run was 6:23/mile and ave HR was 162. Floundered through 4x100m strides at the end of the workout. I'm glad I got the workout in, but hope very much I get the trip out of me and feel better tomorrow.

(Adrenaline orange: 256 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.000.000.000.000.0015.00

AM - easy 4.5 to end of paved river trail and back, with jog around the block with the dog.

(Adrenaline yellow: 486 miles)

PM - 10.5 miles out to climbing wall on River Trail and back, via canal trail. Felt okay, probably 7:00/mile pace or so.

(Adrenaline black: 426 miles)

Comments
From Mike K on Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 09:44:57

Welcome home! Are you coming to SLC this weekend to race?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 10:14:46

Mike, no I'm not doing any of the SLC races. The 5K is tempting, but doesn't really fit into my training scheme right now. I have the Ogden 30K the next weekend, and then the Ogden Marathon in four weeks.

From Mike K on Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 15:33:52

Welcome home! Are you coming to SLC this weekend to race?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.500.000.000.000.0015.50

AM - Easy 6 miles - landfill loop plus around the block with the dog. SI was stiff for the first mile or so, then loosened up. Felt okay during run. Kind of a blah week so far.

(Adrenaline orange: 262 miles)

PM - 9.5 miles or so with James. We ran out to Logan Canyon and just on the Pipeline Trail and took it to the end, then came back on the river trail and the canal trail. I've haven't done the Pipeline in a couple years, so it was fun to get out on it.

(Adrenaline yellow: 496 miles -- retired!)

Comments
From David Nelson on Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 23:35:04

Paul --

Thanks for tipping me off to that other Washington blog. Turns out the guy lives in the town where I ran that 10k last weekend. Not far at all. Weird small world does it again.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.004.002.000.000.0020.00

Long run with James and Cody. We drove up to the mouth of Blacksmith Fork Canyon and ran 9 miles up, averaging around 7:15/mile. When we turned around, I did some MP and LT intervals, using the TOU mileposts. 2 miles at MP (11:20), 1 mile at LT (5:15), 2 miles at MP (11:10), 1 mile at LT (5:30). Two minutes rest between each interval. A headwind picked up over the course of the workout, which slowed things down a little, but not too bad. I then  rejoined Cody and James, and we did 6:30 pace the rest of the way down the canyon, including 6:10 for the last mile. It felt pretty decent, as far as long runs go, and I'm glad I did some faster running during it. 6:45/mile pace for the entire run. Ave HR 152 for the entire run, upper 170s during the intervals (181 max).

(Adrenaline blue: 20 miles

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. 

Congrats to all those who ran SLC races this weekend! 

Comments
From ashman on Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 18:59:15

Thanks Paul, I may just show up and run it for fun as a training run. But Im not sure if that would be wise. I was reading in Dick Beardsley's book "Staying the Course" about how after his first good marathon he ran another one a week later and set a PR! But that was Dick Beardsley, not Steve Ashbaker so I'll wait and see on Friday.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.500.000.000.000.0015.50

AM - 4.5 miles to end of paved river trail and back, plus some running with the dog. Did 6x100m strides. Felt pretty good, as far as morning runs go.

(Adrenaline black: 430 miles)

PM - 11 miles - Pipeline trail out-and-back with Jon. Good run. Easy pace. Ave HR was 133, which is quite low, especially for an evening run. It sank into the upper 120s at times. I guess that means that my stroke volume is increasing or something like that. I view it as a positive.

(Adrenaline orange: 273 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 21:41:47

Or either that you weren't running too fast due to your partner. We'll just say your stroke volume was increasing.

From ashman on Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 22:28:57

Paul, I honestly think along with Sasha that you will run under 2:20 one day.

From ashman on Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 22:30:22

Sasha thinks maybe 2:09 possibly...

From superfly on Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 23:03:19

Not one day. This year at STGM it will happen and could happen even sooner than that.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 09:49:03

Can I tag along for the ride?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 10:14:41

Thanks for the support guys. My first goal is sub-2:25, which will hopefully give me a stepping stone to 2:22. Baby steps...

Right now I'm actually thinking Top of Utah for my fall marathon, with St. George as an "emergency last-chance" option. It's hard to say "no" to a race that finishes 4 blocks from my house...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.750.003.750.000.0013.50

Met Cody at 6AM and then ran from my house up to the USU track, where we met James. I ended up doing 6x1000m at CV pace, with 1:00 rest between intervals (200m). I was hoping to get in 8 intervals, but I knew when I started feeling some burn in my legs on the 6th interval, it was time to call it quits, as the workout is supposed to be completely aerobic. No sense in putting myself in the tank if I am already in the tank. I wanted 3:15's, and ended up 3:15, 3:17, 3:17, 3:16, 3:17, 3:17. HR during intervals averaged in the low-to-mid 170s, and peaked at 181. This was a little bit slower than the same workout I did two weeks ago; I just couldn't seem to get going or find a proper pace. Perhaps part of this is due to the early morning workout (I usually do afternoons), but I think it is mostly due to increase and mileage and some accumulated fatigue. But that is part of marathon training, right? I can say this, though, I am already looking forward to tapering! Only two more weeks of hard training...

Cooled down several miles with Cody and James, then took the dog out for his morning jog. A good quality day, all things considered. Beautiful morning too.

I fly to the Twin Cities for a training class later today, so I'll get some more low-elevation running tomorrow and Thursday. Maybe that will help my recovery. I should have a lot more time to run this trip, as I won't be with anyone or have anything else to do in the mornings and evenings. Hopefully I can find a nice trail along the Mississippi River to run along.

(Adrenaline blue: 33 miles

Comments
From James on Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 21:02:42

Thanks for inviting me to do a track workout today. Have fun in Minnesota, hopefully it won't be too rough of a trip so that you can get some good runs in.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 14:01:53

In addition to the increased mileage, you've been traveling. That is a big minus, puts a lot of stress on your body.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 14:14:10

Yes, traveling definitely takes a lot out of me. It's amazing how draining sitting can be. I'm not sure what to expect for the 30K this weekend. With the marathon so close, I can't afford to deplete myself anyway.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

AM - 5 miles through the mean streets of Eagan, MN. Actually the entire run was on bike paths; Eagan is full of them. It's a very nice town. Near my turn around point, I found a paved trail system, and took that for a half mile before I had to come back. It was a gorgeous morning and a great morning run. Sometimes I miss the midwest. The terrain here is quite rolling, but the low altitude makes the hills a lot easier, as I could hold sub-7 pace uphill and keep my HR at 140 or so. Coming back was definitely a lot faster, and hit sub-6:30-pace for some stretches. HR in the 120s on downhills. All in all, it was a very enjoyable run, as far as mornings go. I look forward to running again this evening for a bit longer. Ave HR 133. Ave pace 6:55/mile.

(Adrenaline orange: 278 miles)

PM - 9 miles, exploring more of the Eagan trails. After sitting in a GIS web server training session all day, I was quite ready to run. SI was a bit sore from all the sitting, but felt okay during the run. I love these rolling hills out here. Averaged 6:30/mile for the run, HR in upper 140s. Mmmm...oxygen!

(Adrenaline black: 439 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Easy 9 miles this morning. I explored more of Eagan, this time running down a road named "Wildnerness Run Road". Sounded good to me, and it was. I was actually on a bike trail the whole time, since that's all they have here. It's amazing; this town has been planned very well. Trails and parks everyone you go, and the traffic and big box stores were mysteriously missing. Certain Utah towns should take note (Logan, I'm looking at you). Felt pretty good this morning, but slower than my last couple runs. Did 6x100m strides on the way back. Average pace 7:09/mile, average HR 137.

(Adrenaline orange: 287 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 10:19:41

Oh, come on, are you telling me that you do not love Logan Main Street? And the supposed bike route's that are just painted on the shoulder of busy streets?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 13:39:19

As it turns out, there was a Walmart Supercenter almost across the street from my hotel, the view of it was blocked so I didn't know it was there. I'm no longer infatuated with Eagan, MN.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.000.000.000.007.00

Nice easy run with Jon. I'm not sure of pace, but it actually felt pretty good. 30k tomorrow.

(Adrenaline black: 446 miles)

Race: Striders Winter Racing Circuit 30K (18.65 Miles) 01:45:18, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
2.4018.600.000.000.0021.00

Striders 30K today. I was little concerned about this race, since I have been traveling so much and since it is only three weeks before the marathon. I was concerned about how much fatigue I had from traveling, and also worried about depleting myself too much. At the same time, I wanted to retain my standings in striders circuit, and get some good LDR circuit points as well. In order to achieve all these goals, this race would have to go out slow and be more about tactics than all-out effort.

It was an absolutely beautiful morning, about 50 degrees, sunny, and no wind at the start. It would get to be pretty warm later in the day, but I was pretty sure heat wouldn't be an issue during my race itself. So optimal conditions.

The course is an out-and-back semi-loop, so no net elevation change. But the terrain is rolling and has a long gradual uphill and subsequent downhill in the three miles adjacent to the turnaround. Combined with the elevation (~5000ft), it is not a fast course, but compared to the 5k, 10k, and 10-miler earlier in the series, it is not too difficult either.

The start line was a lot thinner than the other WRC races. A lot of familiar races were missing. From the gun, it was me, Bob, Steve, and Sasha. Pace started very slow (5:50-ish), and gradually inched up each mile, until we were doing 5:20's on the gradual downhill until the turnoff to go around Pineview Reservoir. Sasha dropped around Mile 9, right before the turnaround, so it was just me, Bob, and Steve from there on. On the rolling hills we did 5:30s for a while. Although the pace felt conversational during the first half of the race, I was laboring a lot more by this point, and no one else was talking much either.

Bob put in a surge around Mile 14 that dropped Steve and I pretty quick. I didn't have willpower to go with him, and stayed with Steve. I thought at first we just slowed down, but we were still 5:30 that mile, so Bob must have thrown a 5:20 or so. Bob seemed to have stabilized about 15 seconds ahead of us, but neither Steve nor I were making any moves to fill that gap. I was just trying to finish the race at that point, not feeling particularly great. I think the 5:20s earlier took a bit out of me.

Around Mile 16, Bob's calf went out and he pulled up, so it was just Steve and I to the finish. I still wasn't feeling great, but at the same time the pace slowed to 5:45. It was playing out to be a tactical finish. Most of the tactics were going on in my own head, as two different voices kept trying to tell me what to do. "Slow down more, ease in and take 2nd (which is good enough, after all). Save it for the marathon," said one voice. The other said, "Win the darn race. $25 extra is worth it, and the LDR points are major as well. Quit slacking!"

This basic conversation went on in my head for the next two miles, and in the meantime I sat behind Steve and just tried to stay on him. Finally we hit the 18-mile mark, and I thought, "Nuts to these voices! I'm just gonna go!" I let my body over (since my mind wasn't doing me any good), and went into 1000m interval mode, kicking the last 0.65 miles very hard. Steve didn't go with, and I ended up in 1st. Steve was 2nd and Sasha came in 3rd. I was very impressed with how Steve ran, especially considering he ran a marathon the week before! I think he could have just kept going and finished a marathon under 2:30 today.

It was a very good overall race, and I met my goals. I don't think I gassed myself by any means, but still did some very hard running and got some fast splits, which is good for both the body and mind. It was an interesting race, since it was rather tactical, and we got more surges and pace variations than in most of the other WRC races. I need to obviously work on some of my mental dialog, but it did come through in the end, so I can't complain too much. It's just frustrating (and amusing) how my mind plays so many games with me at times.

15:50
25:54
35:46
4 5:42
55:43
6 ?? - watch malfunction
7 ?? - watch malfunction
85:50
95:41
10 5:35
11 5:24
12 5:21
13 5:33
14 5:21
15 5:35
16 5:31
17 5:45
18 5:48
0.65
3:21

(Burn: 131 miles)

Comments
From dutch on Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 17:02:36

Good job, buddy. Miss ya.

From Cody on Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 18:41:36

Paul,

What can I say? You have done it again! I like to say that "my friend won the race". It gives me a chance to brag to my friends...at least I know someone who is fast.

Good job!

From James on Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 18:45:34

Paul,

Good job today. Another good win and an excellent ciruit performance! I am always impressed! Don't spend all of your winnings on student loans, take your wife out to a nice fattening dinner or something!

From Chad on Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 12:01:40

Keep up the excellent work. You have accomplished some amazing things in the last 6 months. More complete awesomeness to come, I'm sure . . .

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
3.000.000.000.000.003.00

Nice easy 3 miler before lunch. My legs feel pretty decent after the 30k yesterday. Hamstrings are bit tight, and there is some general fatigue, but my calves and ankles do not feel "pounded" like they often do after races. Good sign.

(Adrenaline blue: 36 miles)

Comments
From ashman on Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 21:44:08

Paul, thanks for for yesterdays race. You really pulled it out of me yesterday! I really wanted to get their first but I feel pretty darn good just being able to hang with you guys for as long as I did!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.500.000.000.000.0012.50

AM - Easy 4.5 miles, out-and-back on paved river trail, plus a block with the dog. Feel pretty good.

(Adrenaline black: 451 miles)

PM - 8-mile loop through Providence with Jon. Hot.

(Adrenaline orange: 295 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Tue, May 01, 2007 at 10:19:48

Good news- it was 84 degrees yesterday. Set a record high by 3 degrees. So it wasn't just in our minds that it was warm- and it usually isn't much warmer than that when I run even in July.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.500.000.000.000.0014.50

Jogged a block with the dog, then ran from my house to the canal trail to the Bonneville Shoreline Trail to Green Canyon, up Green Canyon to the end of the single-track, and then back home the same way. I tried to keep the pace honest and work the hills a little, but wasn't really looking for a killer workout today, just some good distance and some hills. Did 6x100m strides in the middle of the run, the last 3 as hill surges on the Bonneville Trail. I measured out the route to best of my ability on G-Maps, and figured I averaged about 7:30/mile. I feel pretty much recovered from the race on Saturday.

(Adrenaline blue: 50 miles)

Comments
From Mike K on Tue, May 01, 2007 at 14:03:33

Paul,

I seem to remember you transitioned from orthotics to Superfeet some time ago. Have you since switched to regular insoles?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, May 01, 2007 at 14:24:14

Mike,

PowerSteps, actually. I have not transitioned to regular inserts, nor do I intend to in the near future. I like to have a beefy arch support, especially since I have rather flat feet.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.000.000.0013.50

AM - 6.5 miles with Cody (canal trail loop) and then 0.5 miles with dog. Pace varied between 7:00 to 7:30/mile. SI is a bit irritated, but I see the chiro this evening.

(Adrenaline black: 458 miles)

PM - Easy run with James and Jon. Talked about kicking dogs for most of the run.

(Adrenaline orange: 302 miles)

Comments
From Nick on Wed, May 02, 2007 at 22:54:53

Hey Paul,

How long did your shoe lacing foot problem persist? Mine began Sunday and still hurts a bit. It definitely feels better than it did initially (apparently it liked the beating I gave it on my run today), but still not 100%. I guess its more aggravating than anything else.

From Nick on Wed, May 02, 2007 at 22:55:08

Hey Paul,

How long did your shoe lacing foot problem persist? Mine began Sunday and still hurts a bit. It definitely feels better than it did initially (apparently it liked the beating I gave it on my run today), but still not 100%. I guess its more aggravating than anything else.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.0010.000.000.000.0015.00

Raining buckets this morning, plus my legs felt like lead weights when I got out of bed, so I waited until about 5PM to run. My body is usually a bit more charged up by then, plus it had stopped raining (mostly). Today was my last Big Workout before the marathon (Big Workouts = hard workout that lasts over an hour and a half, usually 14-16 miles total). The workout today was 4-3-2-1 miles at MP, with 2:00 rest in between, so 10 miles at MP total. I ran from my office to Mile 24 of the TOU course and started the workout, running backward on the TOU course to Mile 18, and then turning around and coming back. I used the mile markers to get pace, although I'd miss one here or there. All my splits were in between 5:30-5:40/mile, which I was pretty happy with, considering how I felt this morning. Good workout.

(Adrenaline blue: 65 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.000.000.008.00

Easy recovery day. Once again I waited until it stopped raining, so weather was pretty good for running: cool and calm. Did the landfill loop via paved river trail. SI is still irritated.

(Adrenaline orange:  310 miles)


 

Comments
From Scott Zincone on Sat, May 05, 2007 at 09:25:35

Hello,

Saw a comment you left on another blog about taking 5 months off. What other type of exercise did you do to keep fit during those days? I am having to take time off for awhile myself.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, May 05, 2007 at 13:34:13

Scott,

I did 30-40 minutes on the elliptical 5-6 days/week. I also did about an hour of core strength and stretching every day. The elliptical mananged to keep the weight off at least. Good luck with your layoff.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
18.000.000.000.000.0018.00

Boy, I'm glad today's run is over with. Mid-30s for temperature, wind, and snow. Gotta love that spring weather! Today was my last long run before Ogden, and we did virtually all of it on trail. It was not very fast, but we were out there for awhile. 18 miles in 2:30 or 2:35 or so. 8:30/mile pace, or something like that. James, Cody, and I met at the canal trailhead and ran the canal trail, then jumped on the Bonneville Trail, and then up Green Canyon. We went all the way up Green to the single track, and then almost a mile on the single track until it was time to turn around. Well over 1500 ft of net climbing. Coming down, we had a nasty headwind, and the snow picked up as well, to the pount where we were getting substantial accumulation, not only on the ground but also on our faces. Yuck! Once we got out of Green Canyon and back on the Bonneville trail, the wind died down a little, and so did the snow. It's as though Green Canyon had its own little microclimate today. I didn't feel particulary great today, and we were pretty miserable, but I was happy to get in the miles and complete my training clycle properly. Now it's time for a taper! 85 miles this week. 60-65 next week, and 30 the week of the marathon (plus the marathon). I'm looking forward to feeling fresh again. I've felt worn down the last couple weeks from the mileage. I don't know how you 100-mile/week guys do it...

(Cascadia: 88 miles)

Comments
From ashman on Sat, May 05, 2007 at 15:09:23

You just go with the lingering fatigue as long as you can and then rest as hard as you can. Eating like a pig whenever, wherever possible...

From James on Sun, May 06, 2007 at 01:36:11

Paul,

I am ready for a taper too, they always feel good. How much snow did you and Cody accumulate on your heads before you got out of Green Cayon? I did like that canyon, I am excited to learn some more trails and routes like that.

From James on Sun, May 06, 2007 at 01:37:05

I meant Green Canyon!!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.000.000.000.000.004.00

Ran out-and-back on paved river trail nice and easy. Beautiful day. My legs feel better today than the last few days, so maybe they just needed a long, slow 18-miler in the snow to revitalize them.

(Adrenaline blue:  69 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Mon, May 07, 2007 at 02:12:43

Nice run Paul, and nice week of real final training for Ogden. I hope you nail each mile with your target marathon pace. Good luck and have fun with your fellow runners.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.000.000.000.000.0011.00

AM - easy 4.5 miles to end of paved river trail and back, then a block with the dog. Did 3x100m strides. Everything felt pretty good.

(Adrenaline black: 455 miles)

PM - easy 6.5 miles. Ran up the Center Street hill and turned off into River Heights, then into Providence. Stopped at the gym to eat pizza, lift a few weights, and cancel my membership, then continued home. Did 3x100m strides in the middle of the run. Average pace for run was 6:53/mile.

(Adrenaline orange: 316 miles)

Comments
From dutch on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:22:06

THEY don't have grog...I have grog.

I came with a pound from Utah, used it over the course of a month or so, and then happily received a surprising re-stock in the mail from Jonathon Kay.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:26:56

Blackmarket grog...I like it!

From David Nelson on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:59:19

No gym membership? Where will you get free food now? I wouldn't eat what they serve at the People's Gym (Rec Center), except maybe the calzones.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:03:19

No calzones...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Gorgeous sunny day up here in Cache Valley. My legs got spring fever and were in the mood for a strong aerobic run. Did the North Logan-USU loop in 65 minutes (6:30/mile). LT intervals tomorrow.

(Adrenaline blue: 79 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.005.000.000.0012.00

5x1600m repeats at Logan High track today, LT pace. Great temperature to run at 6AM, plus no wind, so ideal for a good workout. I felt pretty decent, especially after the first few intervals. Cody showed up and ran with me on the 4th interval, during my first and last lap. Having someone there to run alongside me got me going a lot faster, and "primed" my engine for the last interval too. Interval splits were 5:18, 5:18, 5:19, 5:11, 5:11. Ironically, the 5:11's felt easier than the first three. 1 lap rest between intervals (2:00)

Cooled down a couple laps then did about three miles at 6:15-6:20 pace, then cooled down more with the dog. Good workout.

(Burn: 143 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Ran up to the USU track from home, where I met Cody and James. Cody was going to make his sub-5:00 mile attempt, and James and I were going to pace him. Did a few strides, and then we started the time trial. Since I did an interval workout yesterday, I just paced Cody for the 1st and 3rd laps. My first 400 was a high 73. My second 400 (the 3rd lap of the 1600m) was a 75, so right on pace. They felt pretty good. Cody ended up at 5:00.00 for his 1600m, a 3-second PR.

Ran back home afterward and then did a block with the dog.

(Adrenaline blue: 88 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.000.000.000.006.00

Ran at noon from my office. It was pretty hot out, but I enjoyed a good sweat. Did the Landfill Loop. Legs were feeling good and wanted to do 6:20 miles, so I let them. Did 6x100m barefoot strides in the grass at LHS near the end.

(Adrenaline black: 461 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

Started at Dry Canyon and ran the Bonneville/Deerfence Trail down to Blacksmith Fork Canyon and back. It's about a 14-mile out-and-back. I used to call this route "18 miles", but that was back in the day before Garmins and G-Maps. This was one of my two "long runs" before the Ogden Marathon in 2003. Now it's one of my taper runs. My, how technology and better information changes things. Hopefully I will do better this year in Ogden than I did in 2003 (2:43:46). Twenty minutes faster would be nice.

The cows are out in the section between Millville Canyon and Blacksmith Fork. None of them got aggressive on me, but I did have to jump over their dung, plus the trail was badly trampled (rolled my ankle a couple times). I would consider becoming 100% vegetarian and dairy-free if it would get rid of all the cattle on my favorite running routes....

Legs are feeling good. It's been a couple years since I've done this full route, but the rolling hills seem a lot easier than before. I think all those Ogden races helped. Run took about 1:52:00 or so. Probably about 8:00/mile, a good pace for me considering the difficulty of the trail. Nice day.

66 miles for the week. The taper intensifies next week...

(Cascadia: 102 miles)

Comments
From James on Sun, May 13, 2007 at 00:55:33

Sounds like you had a good run today. I would like to do that run with you sometime. Sorry that everyone dogged you today.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Day off.

Comments
From James on Sun, May 13, 2007 at 17:34:49

I bet it feels nice since you haven't had one in a while.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.500.000.002.000.0012.50

AM - Got up early, ran a mile with 4x100m striders, and did a short track workout - 2x1600m @10K pace, with 1 lap rest (2 minutes). Intervals were 5:02 and 5:01. Everything felt pretty smooth and sharp, with fast recovery. Cooled down a couple miles. Will go a few more miles this evening.

(Burn: 149 miles)

PM - Did canal trail loop (6.5 miles) after work, then another half mile with the dog. 6:40/mile pace for the run.

I had a teammate back in college who always used to say it "hurts to run slow" when you're starting to peak. I think I'm getting near that point. Starting to get very excited for the marathon.

(Adrenaline black: 468 miles)

Comments
From Cody on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:01:54

Paul, you had better watch out. Lybi is talking some serious trash about you. You had better defend your honor...

From David Nelson on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:15:29

Paul, I went and saw Hot Fuzz this weekend. It's great, good recommendation. Good luck on Saturday.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:20:53

Yeah, we just watched "Shaun of the Dead" again. It grows better with age.

"Dogs can't look up"

From Superfly on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 16:18:28

Paul nice picture this one actually looks like you. Is that in Park City? Good luck this weekend. I'm not even running and I'm getting nervous. It will be fun to see how all you guys do.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 16:27:13

Clyde, yes Ogden will be interesting.

The photo is indeed from Park City ('05).

From Superfly on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 17:02:57

Am I good or what? I did one training run up there last summer and I remembered seeing that farm stuff in the background.

Anyways good luck again!

From wheakory on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 17:13:48

Good luck Paul. Question do you find it more of a benefit in your training for marathon's to run 1600m or 800m on the track so far I've only done 800m's and no 1600m's. Excuse me for the stupid question but I'm still feeding in knowledge.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 17:24:40

Kory, I tend to shy away from any distances shorter than 1000m for marathon-specific training. 400s and 800s are so short in duration that it's difficult to get much of a sustained workout. Plus, 800s are usually associated with V02Max work, which has little benefit for marathoners (IMHO). Kind of a Pfitzinger idea, I guess.

Even 1600s are a bit short for me for primary workouts. I'm doing some now in my taper phase, but not so much in the last few months. Instead, I like long tempo runs at MP or even a little slower. I also like to do 1000-1200m intervals with short recovery (1-minute) at 12k pace (slightly faster than LT) to add some "spice". The tempos and intervals are usually done in the middle of a 15-mile run. Just two long workouts per week, and the rest of the runs are easy. And 100-200m striders 2-3 times/week too. That's my whole training program in a nutshell.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.000.000.000.007.00

Easy 7-ish mile run in the afternoon. No watch. Need to adjust to heat to get ready for Ogden...

(Adrenaline orange: 323 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.001.000.000.000.006.00

Did the landfill loop, with a 5:45 tempo mile in the middle. Felt only so-so on the tempo. Near the end of the run, I stopped at the LHS rec fields and did 4x200m barefoot strides in the grass (34, 34, 34, 33). After the striders, I felt much better and much smoother. It's funny how barefoot strides always seem to do that. I think they help get the biomechanics in sync or something.

(Adrenaline blue: 94 miles)

Comments
From James on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 15:44:16

I am just a big fan period! I am wearing shorts right now that I have had for 11 years! I found that picture in some random place on the internet a while back and forgot about it.

Hey, don't worry too much too about all the big-shots that are running Ogden, you'll do great.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

Easy run with Cody on paved river trail.

(Adrenaline black: 473 miles)

Comments
From bill cobler on Thu, May 17, 2007 at 13:10:42

Paul, You're running great and I'm sure your going to have a fun time Saturday. You are strong mentally and physically...Look what you have accomplished with your rehab. It deserves a storybook ending and this is just another step to the trials. Just training in Logan is an advantage that us flat landers don't have that will make you stronger. I think back a few days ago when you guys were the abominal snowmen running down the canyon. All that stuff makes you tougher and gives you the mental edge at the line. So have fun and kick some trash, my $'s on you in this one.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
1.500.000.000.000.001.50

For anyone interested, I've posted a map, profile, and discussion about the Ogden Marathon course on my personal blog.

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Slept in until 7AM, and then jogged out to LHS rec fields and did a couple easy barefoot striders in the grass. Jogged back home, and did a few blocks with the dog. The temperature is alarmingly warm for 7AM.

I just got another week increase in vacation, so will use a few hours this afternoon so that I can relax, lounge around, and take it easy before we head to Ogden. Also scheduled for a quick stop at the chiro for a final tune-up this afternoon. Will get a haircut as well, to make me more aerodynamic. So many pre-race preparations...

(Adrenaline orange: 325 miles)

Comments
From David Nelson on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 01:02:04

Have a good race Saturday my man. Reward yourself with a bruger.

From Lybi on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 02:28:38

Cool stuff on your web site! What a great job for an avid runner.

From dutch on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:25:35

Dave. Did you modify our traditional post-race dish with bugers or something? That's sick.

Regardless, do some damage, Paul.

From James on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 11:41:52

Sounds very similar to what I am doing today. I am getting a hair cut, trying to rest a bit, and goig to see Stucky at noon.

From Dustin on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 12:35:09

Good information on the Ogden course, good luck tomorrow and I'll try to look you guys up after the race. I'm getting more and more excited about the 1/2.

Race: Ogden Marathon (26.2 Miles) 02:26:24, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.8026.200.000.000.0027.00

Ogden Marathon. My watch completely died on me this afternoon, so I can't get at my mile splits, but I'll do the best I can off my memory. Here goes.

Cody, Dan, James, and I stayed at James' inlaws in Willard, so we had about a 15-minute drive to the race busing area. Weather in Ogden at 5AM was pleasant, but too warm for 5AM. T-shirt and shorts were comfortable. Fortunately, once we bused up 1200' in elevation to the start line, the air was much more brisk, and good running conditions. No wind either. However, the temps in Ogden served as bad omen for what it would be like during the last few miles.

The start line featured pretty much everyone I expected, so no big surprises there. After a false start, the race finally started for real, pretty much on-time. The first mile was slow, too slow: 5:42. I wanted 5:30s for the first 8 miles, which is a nice, fast, 1% grade downhill. So I sped up and no one sped up with me; I was all alone, and footsteps faded within a mile. My next 7 mile splits were pretty much all at 5:28. Seriously, it was weird, I was just locked into 5:28 until the downhill ended and we turned to go around Pineview.

Everything was feeling good, and it felt like I had build a decent lead, so I decided to to maintain the same effort on the rolling hills around Pineview Reservoir. Same effort = slower pace, but I was fine with this, as I assumed everyone behind me would slow down too. Sure enough, my 5:28's turned into 5:40s. I wanted to hold this until Mile 17 or so, when the course veers downhill again. I hoped to even- or negative-split the race. Went through the half marathon in exactly 1:13:00. This was right where I wanted to be, especially given the warmer temps. Still no headwind of any sort, which was good. I was afraid when I broke away and went solo that I might hang myself out to dry if there was any sort of headwind, but so far so good. I could tell by the roar of the crowd that the next runners were about 2:00 behind me. This is good; if I can maintain for the rest of rolling section and then go back to sub-5:30s on the downhill part, I doubted that anyone would catch me.

Did another 5:40, and then came to the only hill worth noting on the course. It is a decent climb, but nothing like Vejo; not too steep or too long. However, I had been experiencing mild stomach cramping for a little while, and it suddenly got a bit worse, to the point where it was slowing me down. I tried some breathing exercises, but the only thing that helped was grabbing my gut with my hand. Not an effective way to run a marathon. This resulted in a 6:10 mile and me walking through the next aid station. I knew that if I couldn't get back on track soon, my race was going south. It was frustrating because my legs still felt good. Walking through the aid station and taking a good amount of water seemed to help. I think my stomach was just upset from too much sugar from the Gu and PowerAid, and the water helped dilute it. In any case, after a bit more deep breathing exercises, I had worked the cramp out completely, and was rolling full-tilt again my Mile 17.

The course resumed a big downhill starting right before Mile 18, as it winds down Ogden Canyon (1.8% downhill gradient). Mile 18 was 5:28 again, which made me laugh a little. I can't remember all my splits, but most were 5:30 or under, with a 5:20 as the fastest. My quads were feeling fatigued by Mile 20, but the rest of my systems still felt good. I wasn't breathing hard, I wasn't dehydrated, and I didn't feel glycogen-depleted. Quite a bit of general fatigue, but I could mentally focus through it. At Mile 20, I mentally turned the race into a 10K, and then mentally turned it into a 5K at Mile 23. I was drinking quite a bit of water and PowerAid at aid stations, but was dousing my head and body with even greater amounts of water. This kept me wet and cool between aid stations, and also shocked my nervous system from the sudden cold, and caused me to increase my pace.

Ogden Canyon spit me out onto the Ogden River Parkway (a paved bike trail) around Mile 23. At this point I was smelling the barn enough to get excited about finishing strong, plus kept trying whatever I could think of to give me adrenaline surges and internal encouragement. I was dousing myself with even more water, and then doing double-fisted slam-dunks of the paper cups into the trash bins, while grunting. Seriously. The volunteers and half marathoners I was passing must have thought I was nuts, but I was still holding 5:30/mile pace, and that's all I cared about. I knew at this point from crowd response (or lack thereof) that victory was pretty much a done deal, but I really wanted to make sure to finish the race as hard as could, and potentially PR over my old St. George time.

The Parkway segment finally ended with less than a mile to go, the course finished on the road into downtown Ogden. It's pretty much dead flat, but the building were casting good shadows, which helped keep things cool. I knew that the race ended on 25th Street, and started counting blocks. 20th Street: 1000m. 21st Street: half mile. 22nd Street: 600m. 23rd Street: 400m. At this point, the crowd was completely lining the street, and was very loud in cheering me on. That was the final bout of adrenaline I needed, and kicked it in hard, finishing the the final 400m with a good sprint, and relishing the moment. I realize that winning a race like this is nothing to take to for granted, and this particular finish is something that I will remember for a long time. What a rush!

There was an issue with the timing due to the "false start", but I'm pretty sure my final time was 2:26:24-ish, which is a good 10-second PR from St. George in 2005. I thought after the Striders Half Marathon that I might have 2:25 or 2:24 in meon the Ogden Marathon course, and I think I do, but just not with the heat and with running solo. So as far as I'm concerned, I met my time goal, got a non-St George PR, and also met another goal of breaking the course record (2:29-something). My my primary goal was simply winning the race, and to be honest, I didn't even think about my PR until the last couple miles.

So with all goals met and with the thrill of victory, I'm ecstatic with today, and am so thankful just to get to run a marathon again. A year ago, I could barely hobble, and I wasn't even sure if running competitively ever again would be an option. This marathon was a sweet way to cap off the road to recovery and finish out my first full training cycle back. I look forward to building on this and gradually adding more mileage and more training cycles. I'm not sure which fall marathon I'll do to try to get my Trials Qualifier, but for now I'm going to take a few days completely off, reverse taper, and then start a 5K-10K mesocycle to see if I can get some speed back. Then start a marathon mesocycle in late July to add more endurance to that speed.

Steve Ashbaker outleaned Joe Wilson for 2nd (and his first sub-2:30 performance!!). Neal Gasmann was 4th with somewhere under 2:32. I forget who was 5th, but Sasha was 6th (I think) with 2:32:00. So a very solid field. Other bloggers ran very very well with some long-awaited performances and PR's, but I won't steal their thunder!

(Burn: 176 miles)

Comments
From Mike K on Sat, May 19, 2007 at 16:45:18

Good work Paul! Congratulations! What is next for you? I hope you get a small break and then start your prep to qualify this fall.

From Superfly on Sat, May 19, 2007 at 16:51:53

Since I finished my run this morning I've been sitting at my computer all day waiting for this. Good job. Way to fight off the stomach issues. I look forward to hearing more about it as the day unfolds. Stay healthy and get some rest before WBR '07.

From Andy on Sat, May 19, 2007 at 16:56:56

What an amazing run. While I was waiting around for the 1/2 awards ceremony, they announced there was a new course record for the marathon and I knew that it would be from you. Great job on an amazing comeback from last year's injuries.

From Chad on Sat, May 19, 2007 at 17:02:55

Spectacular, Paul! Enjoy the moment, man!

From Mike K on Sat, May 19, 2007 at 17:29:45

Good work Paul! Congratulations! What is next for you? I hope you get a small break and then start your prep to qualify this fall.

From Maria on Sat, May 19, 2007 at 18:12:48

I was waiting for your result anxiously. I had this wild thought that you may actually run OT qualifier right now. Your recent racing has been so great, that I wouldn't put it past you to qualify today! Very, very impressive and awesome time, running alone and in the heat by second half. You very nearly even split it! From what I know, St. George is even faster course, so perhaps there is your chance to qualify. Congratulations on the win and PR, things are looking very good for you!

From David Nelson on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 01:11:48

That's great Paul. I was thinking about last year recently, and what a struggle it was for you without running. I'm amazed that the same guy who limped into Great Harvest like an 85-year-old nailed a race like that today. What a story. I'm happy for you.

You didn't yell 'watch out for the Shaq attack' on those aid stop dunks, did you?

From wheakory on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:26:13

Nice job Paul. Way to perform well and toughing your stomach problem out. You are a true professional competitor. Your fall marathon can only be better.

From Mik'L on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 15:23:57

Great job Paul. Between living with Clyde and the blog, I hear all about everything going on with the running world (or so it seems). So I feel like I know all of you and it was fun to read about your experience. I especially got a kick out of your final moments of struggle. Don't worrry, Clyde was grunting out loud at the end of his first marathon.

From Mik'L on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 15:23:59

Great job Paul. Between living with Clyde and the blog, I hear all about everything going on with the running world (or so it seems). So I feel like I know all of you and it was fun to read about your experience. I especially got a kick out of your final moments of struggle. Don't worrry, Clyde was grunting out loud at the end of his first marathon.

From ashman on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 16:47:36

You really are the Comeback kid. Great job Paul. I read the back page of the Tribune, hope you got it.

From Chad on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 17:55:49

Don't miss the race video and post-finish video interview with Paul on the Ogden Standard Examiner site:

http://www.standard.net/live/?vid=OgdenMarathon07

From Cody on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 19:02:57

What can I say Paul? I am so glad that you had a great race and it is well deserved. Very smartly executed. Impressive!

From ArmyRunner on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 21:54:01

Great run Paul and thanks for the support. I know you have a qualifier in you in the not so distant future and look forward to hearing about your experience in New York after the trials.

From Nick on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 22:23:45

Nice run Paul! You really seemed to lay the hammer down! If you continue to progress like this, OT's are definitely going to happen.

From dutch on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 22:49:37

Pauly!

Good job, buddy. I'm with Dave, man. You're a completely different person than the guy we lumbered around with tis past year. I'm very impressed and proud. Thanks for giving me bragging rights. "my running buddy in utah...."

From Brent on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 23:13:20

Congrads, awesome time on a warm day, and the come back runner of the year.

From Bill cobler on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 00:25:14

From Bill Cobler on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 00:29:37

Sorry for the double entry I hit the enter key. Not the first time. Good job on your race and new course record. Keep up the training and stay healthy who knows what great achievement will be next.

From James in Sunny AZ on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:34:27

Way to go Paul! Your recovery from your injuries to get to this point is definitely an inspiration to me. Congratulations on the course record.

From Bob on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 11:06:28

Hey Paul

Nice work!

From Dustin on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 11:24:27

Great Race! I really enjoyed being able to be at the finish line and watching you come in finishing so strong. I'm getting excited for the Wasatch Back.

From Dave Holt on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 11:33:56

Congratulations Paul - it is awesome to read about your great race and win! It makes me want to go out running right NOW!

From James on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 12:56:45

Paul,

I'm just glad to know you. I agree with Bob's comments after the Striders Half about seeing a Superman "S" on your back. I know how you were last year at this time and how you are running now, and it is inspiring! Glad to have a little bit of bragging rights about my buddy breaking the Ogden Marathon course record by 3 minutes! Great race, I'm proud of you!

From Jed Burton on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 13:37:32

I was thrilled to read about your victory in the paper yesterday. After following your blog last year and your dedication to the slow and painful process of recovery, it was especially gratifying to find out that you had won. I'm sure there are a few other course records that are shaking in their boots after seeing this tremendous reentry into the Utah marathon scene. Well done!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 15:09:48

Paul:

Faith is to believe in things which are not seen, but which are true. It was not seen, but you believed anyway, and you worked as if you could see. What a great reward for your faith! It was true after all. Hard work magnified by God's power brought fruit in this race. But this is far from the end. More will come soon.

In my estimate this particular performance was worth about 2:18 in good conditions in St. George, maybe even 2:17. This is great, this gives you a free ticket to the Trials upon re-execution in October, but I think this also shows you've got some hidden depth to unearth. I have mentioned earlier that I thought you were potentially a 2:10 marathoner, and your performance confirmed this hunch to me. The right set of buttons would need to be pushed in order for this to come out.

You ran this race pretty much off great biomechanics enhanced by a little bit of base training, and that was enough to run an equivalent of 2:20 in Chicago! You cannot yet run 100 miles a week comfortably. Your tempo runs or interval work have not yet been sufficiently brutal, you are not yet at the point where making them brutal is advantageous. Your diet has improved and produced good results, but I have a feeling there is still room for improvement there. With all of that in mind, I see how you could shave off another 10 minutes off this effort (not just the time, but the effort, which would give you 2:10 on a perfect flat sea-level course!). I am very excited about this.

From Chri on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 18:52:25

Congrats Paul! What a great race for you--you looked strong all the way to the finish--a testament to the great spring of training you've put in!

From MichelleL on Sun, May 04, 2008 at 23:11:16

I love your race report. Josse's right, this is about the perfect race, minus about 20 seconds in the stomach turmoil mile. So you think the fast to slow mile difference was 15-20 seconds for you, so that would be about 20-25 sec for me. Hmmm. Your discussion about motivation rang true to me too. I remember when my St. George turned into a 10k and I was weary but still going strong. For me I need to be able to keep it together at the 5K to go mark. I appreciate your discussion on how to get the adrenaline flowing, I will be chewing on this post for a while.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Day off. Quads are very sore, hammies very tight.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Day off. Quads as sore as yesterday, hammies are less tight. Usually it takes me two days to start feeling better after a marathon, so I expect tomorrow to be better. I've definitely felt worse, in any case.

*******************

I've posted an entry on my personal blog weighing the pros and cons of running St. George vs. Chicago vs. Twin Cities as my fall OQ attempt. Read, if interested, and input is welcome.

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 00:17:45

Paul - the question is whether you want a secure standard A (St. George), fairly secure standard B with a possibility of standard A if everything clicks (Chicago), or a very good chance of missing standard B (Twin Cities). My advice is by all means St. George. Hopefully Steve and I will be ready to give you some help at least in the first half if nobody else comes. But I think Neal and Joe will be there too trying to qualify.

From Andy on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 08:15:36

I would guess that there may be a few more people at St George than usual trying for the standard A because of it's reputation of being fast and it being the last chance to qualify.

From ashman on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 09:09:12

I vote St George Paul, You will have the support and the experience of having us around to get you where you want to go. You might get lost in the crowd in a marathon like Chicago or Twin Cities.

From David Nelson on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:25:03

Chicago is a crowded race, especially the first 6 miles or so. But it's an awfully flat course, and it goes through some parks and downtown blocks that are smooth and easy to get a pace working on. Maybe I'll meet you out there if you do it, I could redeem myself from the full-body cramp I got when I ran it in '01. Hard to argue with being surrounded by the support group SG would have.

From Chris Rogers on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 12:22:47

Paul,

I've run both Twin Cities and Chicago. Definitely do NOT bank on Twin Cities as a qualifier. There are a couple of tough uphills between 16 and 20 miles, and a gradual uphill from around 20 miles to 22/23 miles. Combined with the rolling hills throughout the race, I don't think it is an easy qualifier by any stretch.

I would highly recommend Chicago. Although it is a bit crowded the first few miles, there are always lots of quality people to work with throughout the marathon and the crowds are outstanding. If you're worried about trying to find people trying to hit the qualifier standard--I know plenty of people back in the midwest you could pair up with at Chicago who will be trying for the standard as well. I can honestly say the marathon I've felt the most fresh after is Chicago (maybe I should have pushed harder).

I've never run St. George (I'm planning to this year), but I'm not the greatest downhill runner in the world, so Chicago would be my choice.

From Dave Holt on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 13:34:17

I took your poll and answered St. George. I am biased as a Southern Utah runner; nonetheless, Clyde and I have discussed how this year we may lose a few places even with faster times because of more people coming to hit the standard. And I don't think you should feel you cheated to hit the standard by running St. George. Anybody that can hit a time like that deserves it.

From Superfly on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 20:49:30

St. George all the way. Let's say you bust out a sub 2:17 something or lower. Well then you'd hold the current couse record. Since they changed the couse in 06' everything started all over. This year James Lander won in a 2:17 but you could possibly go lower than that. Now you've qualified and hold a couse record. Thats not cheating your way in. Also worst case- you have a bad race. In STGM you still qualify where as you may not in Chicago and may have lost out.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Less sore today. Should be ready to run again tomorrow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

My legs are ready to go again (no soreness), but my body decided at exactly 3:30PM yesterday to become sick. It was amazing: one minute I felt fine, and the next minute I had a cold! The last time I was sick was last September (a benefit of not having kids), so I'm going to use a few of those 130 sick hours I've accrued (but never use) at work. This exact same thing happened after St. George in 2005. Combine a hard marathon with a little heat, and the result is a destroyed immune system, at least for me. If I improve over the day, I may do some jogging this evening, but no hurry. Rest.

PM - felt a little better, so ran the dog around the block, then ran to work and back, and then did the paved river trail. My hamstrings tightened up a little on the last part of the run, but other than that my legs felt pretty good.

(Adrenaline blue: 99 miles

Comments
From WildBull on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 10:46:08

Paul

Great job on the Marathon! What do you do to make a living? Besides running?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 11:11:25

Geographic Information Systems. ie - Map Nerd

From wheakory on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 12:35:29

Your on your way to a full recovery. I hope that cold disappears. I really enjoyed reading your personal blog on the St.George, Chicago, and Twin Cities Marathon. I wanted to run St. George this year but waited to long to register. Your going to qualify no matter which one you run. Your an outstanding runner.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 12:55:24

Kory, if you run very well at Teton Dam (ie win or a big PR), you can probabably use that as leverage to wiggle your way into St. George, if you really want to run it. You may even get a comp. Most races are usually pretty good about rewarding accomplished runners by giving more flexibility.

From wheakory on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 15:19:15

Thanks Paul. There no way I'll win but I believe I can set a big PR.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.500.000.000.000.007.50

Feeling a bit better today, but still dealing with the head cold. Ran 7.5-mile landfill loop, nice and easy. Hamstrings are still tight, but legs don't feel beat up anymore.

(Adrenaline black: 481 miles)

*************

I've decided on my fall marathon and am officially registered. Thanks for all your feedback.

Comments
From WildBull on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 18:40:12

We will be glad to see you down here. Good choice.

From James in Sunny AZ on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 18:45:48

Congrats on your choice of fall marathon. Hope to see you (and the other fast running bloggers) there.

From Mike K on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 19:54:12

Let's roll! There should be enough guys trying to hit the standard that there will be several groups on the road with the same goal.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.500.000.000.000.007.50

Easy easy distance out to paved river trail and then to Blackhawk condos, where I stopped to feed my vacationing friends' cat. It's a nice kitty, but is no dog. Ran back the same way. Still pretty congested and yucky-feeling, but energy levels are returning.

(Adrenaline orange: 332 miles)

Comments
From James on Fri, May 25, 2007 at 15:51:03

I think you made the better choice going with St.George. Although, if you didnt do St.George I would most likely be $100 richer! I hope you get feeling better!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.500.000.000.000.007.50

Ran to the Temple Fork sawmill from the parking lot off of hwy 89. The single-track trail is in very good condition, and the run finally felt good too. My cold is nearly over and so is my recovery week. Back up to 65 miles or so next week.

Played two hours of ulimate frisbee after the run and it kicked my butt. Lot of fun though.

(Cascadia: 112 miles)

Comments
From ashman on Sat, May 26, 2007 at 20:51:50

Get well soon, Steve.

From wheakory on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 01:48:05

I used to belong to the Idaho State University Ultimate frisbee team for one year. It's a fun sport. Nice run Paul. I'm glad your cold has departed.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.000.000.000.006.00

Easy 6 miles along paved river trail to Blackhawk condos to feed friends' cat. The cat was glad to see me. I'm quite sore from frisbee yesterday, as I apparently used muscles I haven't used in years. As a result, pace today was around 8:00/mile.

After church, me, my wife, a group of friends, and a couple dogs are heading up for a one-night backpack trip up High Creek near Richmond. It's a beautiful area, although I'm crossing my fingers that there won't be much snow up at 8500 feet. It's not too bad of a hike though, about 3000' elevation gain over 5 miles.

(Adrenaline black: 487 miles

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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No running today. I'm pretty beat from the backpack trip, plus still have some congestion and phlem from being sick. I haven't been very motivated to run since the marathon, mostly due to just not feeling 100% with this head cold. I'm 80% leaning toward just not doing any USATF races until July 4, and focusing instead on getting a solid training foundation going again. 

The backpack trip was fun. We had 8 people and two dogs, and were able to beat up and intimidate all the other groups we came upon on the trail. We didn't make it up to High Creek Lake due to snowpack, but did manage to finally find a sweet spot about 50 meters off the trail at the base of Cherry Peak, after a bit of backtracking. Dinner always tastes better when you have to backtrack and wander aimlessly to find a camping spot.

Coming back today, we bumped into Dan, his wife, his father-in-law, and his dog, going the other way. Dan was wearing his Relay Del Sol shirt and I was wearing my Wasatch Back shirt. It was all very orange. The FastRunningBlog community is a small world, even in the backcountry.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Still very sore, but pushed out a slow 10-miler out onto the Logan Canyon river trail and back. My cold has developed into a bit of a cough as well.

(Adrenaline blue: 109 miles

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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AM - Providence Loop, 6 miles. Turtle-like pace, once again. I'm a little less sore than yesterday, still coughing some though.

(Adrenaline black: 493 miles)

PM - 4-mile out-and-back on paved river trail. Felt a bit better than this morning, and hit a couple sub-7 miles. Oh yeah.

(Adrenaline orange: 336 miles)

Comments
From James on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 18:43:11

Don't you just love marathon recovery! That will teach you to go breaking course records by 3 minutes. No, that sucks man! I hope you are better for your weekend vacation.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 18:46:27

Actually, it's the frisbee that killed me.

From Jon on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 21:18:38

He's just not up to the weekly punishment of frisbee. You should try playing Tue, Thur, and Sat- 6 or more hours per week! Lots of speedwork. At least that is my philosophy.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Out-and-back run on Mendon Road. Feeling a little better today, but still not very sharp. The miles that I clocked were in the 7:00-7:15 range, so much improvement from earlier in the week.

(Adrenaline blue: 119 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.000.000.008.00

Ran some with the dog, then drove out to the Logan Canyon River Trail and ran to Spring Hollow and back. It was a good run, definitely my best run of the week. Did some up-tempo running on the way back. I think I'm just about recovered from my cold and frisbee/backpacking, and will be able to proceed with real training next week. But no races until Wasatch Back.

(Adrenaline black: 501 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:12:38

Since you are recovered, are you playing frisbee again tomorrow?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

Did an afternoon trail run with Jon, Dan, and Cody...and my new Toy, the Garmin 205. We drove up Logan Canyon and ran the Beaver Creek-Sink Hollow loop, which starts at 7100 ft and peaks out at about 8200. So its a run that makes you work, but still mellow enough to hold a decent pace. We did 8:25/mile pace for the uphill portion, then some mid-7's on the flatter spots up top. Going down Sink Hollow, we got motivated to catch the 8:00 guy, and did so by finishing off the run with a 6:40, 6:15, and 6:30 miles. Not too bad for dodging rocks. I'm not a good downhill runner on technical terrain, but had a lot of fun on the last half of the run today. Temperature was perfect up at 8000 ft, and I can't get enough of that pine smell. Good day. 7:50/pace average for the entire run.

(Cascadia: 125 miles

Comments
From ashman on Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 15:35:32

Have you received your award for Ogden yet? Some guys have got their medals.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 17:00:30

No, I haven't received anything yet. Have you?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

Did the Planet Walk and then a little bit with the dog. 7:09/mile average. My bashed my knee pretty good against my desk yesterday, and it will quite stiff and sore in the evening. However, after icing it last night and taking some ibuprofin, it's a lot better today.

(Adrenaline black:  506 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.005.000.000.000.0011.00

Back at it today with the tempo runs. Ran out to Millville and back, doing a 5-mile tinman tempo along the way. I had a hard time getting going during the first half, and splits were 6:09, 6:05, 6:05, 5:52, 5:56. After the tempo, I ran over to the LHS rec fields and did 4x200m barefoot in the grass in 34, 34, 32, 32. I ran these very hard. The garmin consistently said that the distance was actually 0.14 miles, which is 225 meters. If this is true, it would put my splits more in the 29-30s range. But the garmin may be rounding up as well. Either way, I'd like to get my speed down to under 30s on these grass 200's by the time Draper Days rolls around. I figure if I combine that with my standard training, I should be pretty fit to run to a good 5K/10K.

(Adrenaline blue: 129 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 13:35:42

Nice run Paul way to get back in the routine of things. I never tried doing 200's barefoot, but it does benefit all the feet muscles when doing them this way. Your speed is definitely going to be right where you want it to be when the 5k/10k races events come up. Also even though this is late in saying Happy 5th Anniversary with your wife.

From Mike Barnes on Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 21:30:10

Paul, I am a new blogger (Mikey B). I, too, am a Tinman fan and a fan of therunzone.com. He actually coached me for a short time, prior to my injury (strange abdominal issue). C-ya!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Providence Hill loop, 6:44/mile average pace. Held 7:00 pace up the hills, and 6:15-6:30 on the downhills. Good run. Did a mile with the dog afterwards.

(Adrenaline orange: 345 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.500.000.000.000.008.50

Rain rain rain. I put off running until after work, hoping to catch a break in the precip at some point, but no luck. I finally got out at 5:30, and did an 8-mile loop around Logan. It let up quite a bit while I was out there, so I guess timing wasn't too bad. Plus, I felt fantastic, and had a very enjoyable run, daydreaming about St. George the entire way. 6:29/mile average pace. Did 6x100m striders in the middle. Finished out the run with a block with the dog.

(Adrenaline black: 515 miles)

Comments
From sarah on Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 23:18:06

whoa paul...I didnt' know guys like you waited for the rain to stop..I thought it was only wimpy runners like me and the like that couldn't handle the rain....Sasha goes out in it and comes back smiling and saying....in Russian, that he is a wet as a chicken..it must sound funny in Russian.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:01:27

No, I'm a fair-weather runner. I hate water; I don't like swimming, water skiing, washing my car, or watering my lawn...or running in the rain. It's one reason I live in a desert!

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:27:43

Paul:

I do not like rain either, but if it is raining most of the day and you need to get 15 miles in, you have to get wet.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:29:58

Sasha, very true, very true. Fortunately, I only needed to get in 8 miles yesterday! Today I need 12 though, so I'm holding my breath.

From Jon on Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 01:10:57

Paul

Sounds like we both really enjoyed our run in the cold rain. Is something wrong with us?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.006.000.000.500.0012.50

Workout day. Again, I waited until after work to run, and this time my patience paid off: no rain. I wanted some hills today, so did a 6-mile tinman tempo on the Millville Hill Loop. Did a few 6:30 miles to warm up, then mile splits were 5:54, 5:52, 6:24 (all uphill), 5:46, 5:40 (all downhill), 5:48. I felt pretty good for the most part. I had some 200's on the track scheduled for afterward, and although I really didn't feel like doing them after 6 tempo miles, I forced myself to go home, put on the racing flats, and head out to the LHS track. Did 4x200 hard (31, 31, 31, 31), with ample recovery. I couldn't go much faster than 31s, but that's okay because it's still early June. I tried to focus on form and turnover.

My flats felt pretty funny. It's been 14 months or so since I've worn racing shoes.
 

(Adrenaline blue: 140 miles

Comments
From James on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 00:53:39

Impressive workout! 31s are still pretty respectable, even for someone of your caliber, and especially after a good tempo run.

From wheakory on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:07:45

Very nice intensity workout. Your fitness level by fall will be incredible. What racing flat shoe do you wear? I was thinking about buying the Brooks T4 racer.

Right now my lightest shoe is the Mizuno Idaten.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:18:28

Kory, I wear the Saucony Tangent. It's pretty beefy as far as racers go, but I bought them with the intention of them being marathon shoes. I never got the chance to wear them in a marathon though, because I ended up getting plantar fasciitis, which meant no flats for over a year. I've worn the Brooks Burn (lightweight trainers) for all 10 of my marathons, and they've done well. Hopefully this year I can finally wear racers at a marathon.

From wheakory on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:50:08

Paul, I would also like to run in racing flats in an upcoming marathon. In the 8 marathons I've ran. I ran the first two with Brooks Adrenaline, then the next 5 with Avia Lites. The last one I did with Asics DS Trainers 12 (9.5 ounces). I've just bought a pair of Asics Ohana racers and the weight 8.5 ounces. But this Saturday's marathon I will stick with the Asics DS Trainers 12. I thinking slowly working to a lighter shoe is the best approach.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.500.000.000.000.0011.50

AM - easy 4.5-mile recovery run on Planet Walk. Bumped into Cody, who ran with me for a while. Didn't wear a watch, but pace was very slow, as I was a bit stiff and tired from yesterday. Plus, my bruised knee that I had bashed into my desk last Saturday was a bit flared up, which made things uncomfortable. Ice and ibuprofin when I got home.

(Adrenaline black: 520 miles)

PM - easy 7-mile recovery run on Canal Trail Loop. 7:37/mile average pace. 

(Adrenaline orange: 352 miles

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.500.000.000.000.0016.50

Ah...Saturday. Slept in until 8:30, then puttered around the house and yard for awhile before running errands. Eventually ended up at the Cache Gardeners Market, which is usually the place to be on Saturday morning. It's worth your time, if you're ever in Logan between 9AM-1PM on a Saturday. After working for awhile, I finally got around to doing my Saturday trail run by mid-afternoon. James was the only taker this week, and the two of us headed up Logan Canyon to the Right Hand Fork trailhead. From there we did a big 16+ mile loop: started up the Willow Creek Trail, then turned onto Steel Hollow and took it to its terminus at FR 056. We turned north onto FR 056 (Long Hollow) and paid homage to Old Ephraim by visiting his grave memorial. Old Ephraim was a legendary 9'11" grizzly bear that terrorized sheep during the 1920s, until a brave rancher repeatedly shot him to death with his gun. Pity. Now there are no more grizzlies in our area, but we seem to be overrun with livestock, most of which trample and poop all over my trails. Anyway, after stopping at the Ephraim memorial, we continued on Long Hollow, and then turned west onto FR 007 and headed toward Mud Flat. We then took Mud Flat all the way around to Cottonwood Spring and then Little Cottonwood Creek. And then we were back at the car. It's a great loop, and I've never done that particular variation of it (I usually come down Willow Creek instead of Mud Flat). The views are splendid on this run, particularly the second half, and everything is very very green right now.

According to the Garmin, our average pace was 9:07/mile. Total time 2:29:10. Fastest mile was 7:40, slowest was 10:31. Also according to the Garmin, total ascent/decent was ~4250 ft, which maybe why we ran so slow. it definitely kicked my butt. Good run, though. I enjoyed yakking with James the entire time.

(Cascadia: 141 miles)

Comments
From James on Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 00:51:42

Thanks again for waiting around for me. I enjoyed the run alot, even though it totally hammered what was left of my already messed up body. It kicked my butt bad, but I am glad that I wasn't the only one. That was probably the prettiest run that I have done in years, and it is definitly now on my "favorite list". It was fun yakking with you too for four hours.

From Logan on Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 16:47:06

I enjoyed doing the biathlon with my father-in-law. Yes, he is the former mayor of Logan. He has enjoyed doing the biathlon for a while now. I put a comment on James' blog. I would love to come and run with you guys sometime on a Saturday. I live in Ogden and don't run with many people. Great job with all of your training.

From Jon on Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 17:12:48

Let me know next time you do Ephraims and I will come.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.500.000.000.000.006.50

Did some barefoot running while throwing the frisbee around at our church picnic this afternoon. That loosened me up. After a good long nap, I ran the dog around the block then jumped in the car and went out to the River Trail, which is always a great Sunday run. Went a little past the end of the single track and back for 6 miles. According to the Garmin, it is exactly 3 miles from the parking lot to the gate after the single track (end of single track is 2.8 miles). Good things to know for future reference.

(Adrenaline black: 526 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - forced myself to roll out of bed, put some clothes on, and hit the road. I strongly considered just sleeping instead, as no single part of my body felt very good this morning. I went on to run 5 very very slow miles on the Planet Walk, plus some with the dog. Felt pretty bad. I'll try again this afternoon.

(Adrenaline blue: 145 miles)

PM - 8 mile North Logan out-and-back. Felt better than this morning. 6:53/mile average pace. Did 4x100m strides in the middle. Nice and cool still for a June afternoon.

(Adrenaline orange: 360 miles)

Comments
From dutch on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 09:52:43

I know the feeling, man. Sometimes the brain says 'yeah' and the body says 'screw you'. it's frustrating. good work getting back out there in the pm. you do any trail running in that fresh layer of snow?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:21:06

Ben, James and I went up and did the Ephraims Grave loop, but it only got up to 7400', still below the snowline.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.500.003.000.500.0011.00

CV fartlek this morning. I did a couple miles at 7-minute pace to warm up, and then started the session: 4 repeats of 4 minutes hard, 3 minutes easy. The last two intervals felt a lot better than the first two. Results:

0.71 miles - 5:36/mile pace (gentle uphill the whole way)

0.74 miles - 5:24/mile pace (rolling) 

0.75 miles - 5:21/mile pace (rolling)

0.76 miles - 5:15/mile pace (gentle downhill the whole way)

Not my most stellar workout, as I was running this fast or faster back in February, but at least I got it in. I seem to have trouble getting moving in the mornings, but it's getting too hot to do hard workouts in the afternoons. Oh well, I suppose that effort matters more than anything.

After the fartlek, I ran brisk pace (6:20/mile or so) to the LHS rec fields, and then did 5x200m barefoot in the grass (33, 33, 33, 33, 33). Nothing blazing, but at least they were consistent.

Cooled down a mile with the dog.

(Adrenaline blue: 150 miles

Comments
From James on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 11:47:42

Nice workout. Eventhough it wasn't as good as a Feburuary workout I'm sure the effort was worth more. In February you hadn't been sick two weeks before, ran a 2:26 PR marathon three weeks before, or ran that trail run that we ran on Saturday three days before. Besides, 33s on the grass is faster than what I was doing on the track the other day.

From Chad on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 14:39:58

I didn't even know "embiggens" was a word. I'm going to have to drop that into some brief I write one day.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 14:54:28

It's a perfectly cromulent word.

From Mike K on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 14:57:11

Hitch that team up Jebediah Springfield,

whip them horses, let them wagons roll.

That a people might embiggen America,

that a man might embiggen his soul.

From Chad on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 15:14:03

To me, "embiggens" sounds like a phrase that certain groups of people might use to describe, say, the size of their pick-up trucks . . . ."embiggens."

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 15:16:57

Why I laugh?

From Chad on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 15:27:19

D'oh!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.500.000.000.000.0011.50

AM - easy 7 miles on canal loop, plus a block with the dog. 7:19/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline black: 533 miles)

PM - easy 4.5 miles on Planet Walk, and a block with the dog. 7:00/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 365 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Traveling and meetings all day. Then bed. No running.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Got up at 5:15AM and ran from the Days Inn near Golden, CO. Ran about a mile down Hwy 40, then jumped onto a paved trail that paralleled Hwy 6 going north into Golden. I was warmed up after about two miles and started easing into a Tinman tempo. Terrain was very rolling, so I was averaging around 6:20/mile during most of it. Eventually I made a right turn (19th street?) and I passed the School of Mines (homage to Jon Allen) and got into downtown Golden. I found the Coors plant right when it was time to turn around, so mission accomplished. No time for a tour, though, as I had to turn around and run back. Good overall run with a good effort. 6:32/mile average pace for the entire run. I liked Golden, as it felt rather cut off from the the rest of the Denver metro due to topography.

(Adrenaline blue: 160 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:05:12

If I knew you were staying in Golden, I would have given you directions to what is by far the best trail run there- Beaver Brook trail. Great run, not too hard.

I have to agree that Golden is a good town- right by the mountains, near Denver, but feels a long ways away from the city because of the mesas that are in the way. I sure enjoyed my time there.

I used to live 2 blocks from the Coors Brewery...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.500.000.000.000.0016.50

Reluctantly rolled out of bed at 7:30AM in to hit the trails. 6AM would have been better due to the heat, but I was exhausted from traveling (didn't get home until 10:30 last night). I met James at First Dam, and we started the run, which I call the Wind Caves-Green Canyon Loop. We went through the Hydro Park, then up onto the Pipeline Trail, which spit us out onto Hwy 89. We then crossed 89 and jumped on the River Trail and took it to its terminus at Guineva Malibu campground. Then we crossed 89 again and started up the Wind Caves trail. Heard (and saw) a rattlesnake, which literally startled me enough to jump halfway off the trail. After about a mile, we took a little side trail that takes us up to the ridge. Here, things got tough. This trail is is a bit less-traveled and has poor footing and a steep gradient. Plus it was getting pretty hot. We did the best we could and run/walked up to the ridge, at 7300', where we were treated to panoramas of Logan Canyon and the Bear River Range. From the ridge, we then dove down into Green Canyon on the Bierdeneau Trail, which was in much better shape, plus was shaded. We made it to Green Canyon Road (dirt road) and ran out of Green Canyon and then linked up with the Bonneville Shoreline Trail, which took us back to our cars at First Dam.

1 loop, 4 different trails, 16.5 miles total, with 4400' total feet of climb/descent. A mark of a good Saturday morning. Average pace was right around 10:00/mile. Cache Valley is really a quite a trail running mecca, but no one knows about it. I encourage you Salt Lake folks to come out and run our trails sometime. Some people want to guard them and keep them a secret, but in order to protect them, people have to know that they are worth protecting. So I say the more the merrier.

(Cascadia: 158 miles)

Comments
From Chad on Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 18:38:41

Sounds like a great run. Next time we're up at the Bear Lake cabin, I'll have to drive over the canyon to meet you for a run.

From James on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 01:06:51

Thanks for the good run. I hope that you had fun at summerfest.

From Jon on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:07:16

I don't think you guys should be allowed to do any more of these great trail runs without me...

4400' up and 4400' down, or 4400' total elevation?

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:43:07

4400' up and 4400' down. Give or take 500', since the Garmin isn't known to be terribly accurate with z-values.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:00:24

Chad, definitely shoot me an email the next time you're at Bear Lake. There are some pretty good runs right near Bear Lake Pass off of Hwy 89. Plus, I can always use an excuse to grab a raspberry shake!

From David on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 18:02:48

Raspberry shakes: overrated. That loop you guys ran: underrated. Glad to hear you got back to it. Now take James and Jon up the dirt road to Tony Grove and back down Blind Hollow!

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 18:42:05

Dave, this time we took the actual trail rather than bushwacking straight up the mountainside. It brought back some pretty good memories though.

I've been considering starting work on the infamous trail book again, and perhaps publishing through some online venue.

From Jon on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 19:38:06

Paul- we can make it a joint venture for a book. We'll call it "Trail runs and port-o-potties of Cache Valley" or something like that. Guaranteed best seller. It's got a nice ring to it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Laid around most of the day and took naps. Hammocks are a wonderful invention. Went up to Green Canyon in the evening with our Bible study group and did a hike up to the cross that is on the ridge at the mouth of Green Canyon after our study. About 10-15 years ago, some guys from my church lugged some huge wood beams a couple miles up the ridge (about 2500 vertical feet), and constructed a a cross. It's a great place to go and look over Cache Valley. Everything is very tiny from up there, but the cross is very big. Quite symbolic and meditative. It is also very very steep, and I ended up running most of the way down in order to keep from fall out falling down the mountain. I'm not counting it as mileage though. Gorgeous day today, in the upper 70s and breezy.

Comments
From Jon on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 14:09:36

I've been up to that cross- I don't envy those guys who carried it up. Steep trail- too steep to really run up or down with much speed.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.006.000.000.000.0012.00

Ran from my office during the early afternoon. I figured today would be the last mild day for awhile, so I decided to take advantage of it. Mid-70s is nice running weather for a June afternoon. Ran the North Logan-USU loop. Warmed up for 3 miles, then did a 6-mile tinman tempo. Mile splits were 5:38 (downhill), 5:56 (uphill), 5:48, 5:40, 5:44, 5:44. Felt quite excellent. After about a half mile of cooldown, I did 4x30-second hill charges up the Boulevard Hill. Cooled down for another mile or so and called it a day. This is probably my best workout since the marathon. 6:18/mile average pace for entire run.

(Adrenaline blue: 172 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 23:13:32

I have to agree with you. It was excellent weather for running today. Nice start to the week. For the WBR, I think my team starts at 7:30 AM. I am not exactly sure. I just found out I am running a couple of days ago. My friends' brother-in-laws needed an extra runner so they asked if I would do it. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

From Jon on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 00:19:22

You'll enjoy it.

From James on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 12:07:49

Your tempo runs are always impressive to me! I know how bad I hate to do tempo runs because they are hard, and you make it look easy.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - easy 8 miles on Canal Trail Loop, plus a few blocks with the dog. 7:22/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 373 miles)

PM - easy 5 miles on Planet Walk. Hot out. 6:55/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline black: 538 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 12:47:39

What kind of dog do you run with and how well does the dog handle the running? I've been running with my golden retriever and so far I've got him up to 5.5 miles.

Also very nice Tempo run yesterday your speed is impressive.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 14:22:47

I have a black lab. He's pretty big (~100 lbs), so I generally don't go more than a mile or two with him. Partially because he wears out, and partially because he's a brute and I just plain don't like running with him. If I conditioned him, I'm sure he could handle 10-milers. I used to take him out for up to 13 miles when he was younger.

I have a friend who takes his black lab on 30-mile bike rides and all-day ski tours. Retrievers can definitely handle the distance if they work up to it. Just like humans!

From David on Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 00:02:26

Before conditioning your dog, train him not to be an idiot and injure other runners. I still haven't properly avenged my injury, though overheating in Green Canyon paid some of his debt.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 10:14:59

I'd say letting him jump out of a window from a moving car scores some points too.

From David on Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:11:53

That was Gil's idea.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.000.000.000.000.0011.00

Met with Jon and James at First Dam in the evening and ran the entire River Trail to Gueneva Malibu and back. 8:09/mile average pace. Did more talking than running. It was hot at first, but became very pleasant by the second half of the run.

(Cascadia: 169 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

AM - wanted to avoid all hills, so I did the flattest run I know of: Landfill Loop via Planet Walk. With a block with the dog, it came out to about 8 miles. 7:05/mile average pace. Also did 4x100m striders near the end. This run could be described as "beh" or perhaps "sna".

(Adrenaline blue: 180 miles)

PM - easy 4 miles on Planet Walk. No shirt. No watch. No dice.

(Adrenaline black: 542 miles)

Comments
From BC on Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 00:39:05

Paul, I wish I could have run with you guys tomorrow. Looks like you've got a fast team. Instead, I'm a driver and a night time pacer for the East High Team "UP Yours". Anyway I'm sure you found someone but I hope to see you guys on the road. Have a fun time.

Bill

Race: Wasatch Back Relay (178 Miles) 18:29:29, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 3
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.000.007.400.000.0011.40

AM - got up and ran over to the WBR start line at Merlin Olsen Park to check things out and drop off my Marathon GIS banner for them to put up. The start line was pretty much constructed by 6:30AM, including what I've been calling "The Four Pillars of Ragnar". If you've seen the start or finish line, you'll know what I'm talking about. From there, I ran a little bit on Leg 1, up into River Heights, and then back home.

I'm glad to have this race starting 5 blocks from my house now, in the middle of Logan. Not only is it incredibly convenient for me, but it will be good for the town of Logan to host an event of this magnitude. This event is now twice the size of Top of Utah, and is the 3rd-largest relay in the U.S. It is growing so fast, that I expect it to exceed Reach the Beach by next year and become the 2nd-largest. Pretty cool. The race directors have worked hard and have earned it.

Our team (MarathonGIS.com) starts at 5PM this evening, with Weber State, BYU, Runners Corner, and 26.2 Running Company. It will be a very good competition.

(Adrenaline orange: 376 miles)

PM - Wasatch Back Relay. Did Leg 5 in 46:17 (7.4 miles, 6:16/mile). Considering 3% uphill grade and 1200' of climbing, I was pretty happy with it. Splits were 5:42, 6:05, 6:11, 6:01, 6:16, 6:27, 7:00, 2:31 (0.4 miles, 6:31 pace). First 5 miles were great, but the gradient plus the distance/duration of sustaining that effort got to be too much for me. Will write more later.

(Burn: 184 miles)

Comments
From Chad on Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:25:04

Best of luck in the WBR. I'm sure you guys will fly!

Race: Wasatch Back Relay (177 Miles) 18:29:29, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 3
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.500.009.500.000.0014.00

Day 2 of Wasatch Back.

Started Leg 17 at exactly 1AM. I felt like I had recovered pretty well from my first leg, and was looking forward to running on rolling hills and asphalt rather than straight uphill on gravel. Felt very good, and finished the 5.4-mile leg in 29:58 (5:27/mile - the garmin measured 5.49 miles). Mile splits were 5:21, 5:32, 5:31, 5:25, 5:26, 2:41 (0.49 miles, 5:29 pace). Not necessarily an easy leg (~200 ft of net climb), so I was happy to get my goal of sub-5:30 pace.

Caught an hour of quality sleep at Exch 24 (Rockport State Park). My legs felt surprisingly rejuvenated after that short rest. Started Leg 29 at 7:49 AM, so it was light out again, and starting to warm up. I had been looking forward to Leg 29, as it is only 4.1 miles and virtually all downhill, with an average downhill gradient of nearly 4%. Most of the drop comes in the first 2.5 miles, then it levels out over the last 1.5 miles, so the first half felt similar to the Alta Peruvian Dash (Little Cottonwood Canyon), with several stretches of 6% and 8% downhill gradient. My projected pace based on our magic spreadsheet (which uses elevation gain/loss) was 4:47/mile, which seemed a bit ambitious, but I decided to give it a try. Total time was 19:41 (4:49/mile), so I came very close. Mile splits were 4:50, 4:40, 4:46, 5:00. I was very pleased to hold 5:00-pace when the downhill diminished.

I was feeling pretty good after my last leg and ran to Exch 30 (3.6 miles) with Sasha to cool down.

(Burn: 192 miles

This race was a big confidence booster for me, as I was able to come very close to my projected times on each leg. Since the Ogden Marathon a month ago, my training quality has been up-and-down; I've been getting the miles in, but haven't felt so good about all my workouts. However, this race proved to me that I haven't lost any fitness and can still push myself to run well.

Weber State ended up winning with 17:40:40. Congrats to them. BYU was second with 17:51:51. We were a distant 3rd with 18:29:29 (6:16/mile), with Little Team Provo behind us (without us knowing it) in 18:50:09. 26.2 Running Company rounded out the top 5 with 19:18:18. Full results are here.

Comments
From Cody on Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 18:48:42

You ran some sweet times on some killer legs! I had a great time and look forward to the next. By the way, Team Young Provo only ran the short course (2/3 of the total).

From James on Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 22:26:17

Yeah, Runners Corner was actually 5th place overall.

From James on Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 22:50:19

Paul,

Great running as usual. Thanks again for getting us a team. That is a killer time on that last leg. I will have to talk to you later about the relay, I want to hear the stories from van 1.

From Jon on Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 23:28:33

Nice job, Paul.

From jtshad on Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 13:59:11

Great job at the WBR! You had some smoking times. Sounds like all the guys had fun. Congratulations to team MarathonGIS.com, hope to be on your team in the near future!

From Chris Rogers on Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 14:45:52

Paul,

You ran some great legs, especially the first leg in the heat and with our van constantly kicking up dust. No cause for concerns on your workouts--you're still in great shape!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.500.000.000.000.000.50

Jogged a block with the dog to loosen up a little. My quads are a bit sore from the last downhill leg of WBR, but not too bad. Definitely tired though.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.500.000.000.000.0012.50

AM - easy 7-mile recovery run on canal trail loop. Quads still a little sore, and hamstrings were very tight. SI is sore too. I think it's about time to start paying my massage therapist some more visits to see if I can kick this chronic SI issue. 8:02/mile aveage pace.

(Adrenaline black: 549 miles)

PM - easy 5.5-mile recovery run on the landfill loop. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline orange:  379 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 16:15:10

Excellent job on the WBR. I saw you guys cross the finish line. Great work!

From Logan on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 13:40:45

My first leg was in 29:45 and my second leg was 40:17. I was real happy with both of these runs. They were a touch faster than Sasha but not by much.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

Started my run around 11:30AM, so temps were getting a little warm, but still pretty nice. I ran out to the start of the River Trail single track and back, via the Canal Trail. First couple miles were around 7:15, but then I started to pick it up a little and started working the uphill section of the River Trail. I probably got in 4-5 miles at Tinman tempo effort, including a couple sub-6's on the downhill. I tried to keep it pretty relaxed and mellow though, as my legs are still a little tired from the relay. Did 4x100m strides on the way back. Average pace for run was 6:48/mile.

Tomorrow I fly out to Montrose, CO for  a couple nights for a meeting. I should have plenty of spare time to run, so am looking forward to that. 

(Adrenaline blue: 192 miles)

Comments
From Dustin on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 16:12:04

Hope you enjoy Colorado. We used to compete against Montrose when I was in high school, also spent a lot of time at races in Grand Junction.

From James on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 19:04:19

Have you decided which race you are doing on the 4th?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 19:15:05

I'm 99% sure I'm doing the Sandy Classic 10K. I never heard back from the Freedom Run people, but have a comp for the the Sandy race.

From Jon on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 19:21:58

Is the Sandy race on July 4?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 20:08:29

Yes, it is on the 4th at 7:15AM.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - ran from my house up to Dry Canyon, and then a mile up the Dry Canyon trail. Quite a bit of climbing; 1500' in 4 miles. On Saturday I am doing the Logan Peak Trail Run, which goes up the Dry Canyon trail (among others), and has over 7000' up cumulative gain/loss over 25 miles. It will be challenging, but I also intend to walk much of it, and am doing it "just for fun" and to support our local trail scene. Today's run was kind of a prep for Saturday and to see what sort of pace I can do up Dry Canyon comfortably. The answer is: about 11:00/mile pace.

On the way back down, I ran into my friend Kelly, who is the race director. She and some volunteers were lugging up water to the 4-mile mark, which is the 1st and 4th aid station. Aid stations for single-track trail races definitely take a lot more work! Chatted with Kelly for awhile, and then continued my run back down the bench and into the netherworlds of Inner Logan.

8:13/mile average pace for entire run.

(Adrenaline orange: 388 miles)

PM - ran aimlessly through random streets in Montrose, CO. 7:08/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 197 miles)

Comments
From dutch on Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 16:41:30

i ran that course with Kelly in the Spring. It's a really fun course--you'll enjoy it. I wish I had aid stations on that run, though...

She may have added a bit--I seem to remember GPS'ing it at 23 when we ran it. Make sure you're butt's good and stretched.

From paul on Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 16:44:14

Ben, yeah I remember you doing that. The course has changed a little since you ran it. You can see the map at

http://loganpeakrun.com

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.002.500.500.0012.00

AM running in Montrose. I had a CV fartlek scheduled for today and decided to give it a shot. I warmed up for a couple miles, heading east, at about 7:15/mile pace. Then I wanted to do a mile at tinman tempo pace to prime my body before the fartlek. However, all I could do was 6:40 for that mile. I figured it might have been due to a slight headwind, the higher elevation (6000'), and not being awake yet. I started the fartlek, and all I could do was hold 5:43/mile pace for 2 minutes, then I quit. Took a 1:30 break and decided to try again. 6:03/mile pace for two minutes, then I went anaerobic. Quit again. I decided to turn around to see if I'd have better luck. Turned around and saw the city of Montrose several hundred feet below me. The problem was that I was going uphill (about 100'/mile)! It was such a steady incline, I just didn't notice, other than pace. And the headwind didn't help either. Now with a decline and a tailwind I was able to really get going. 4 minutes hard at 5:12/mile pace (0.77 miles). 2.5 minutes recovery. 4 minutes hard at 5:07/mile pace (0.79 miles). 2.5 minutes recovery. 4 minutes hard at 5:04/mile pace (0.79 miles). Ran a few miles easy and then found a large grassy park. Here I decided to take my shoes off and do 4 strider repeats in the grass. They were all about 32 seconds, but start and stop point was not constant. According to the garmin, my pace splits were 4:31/mile, 4:08/mile, 4:15/mile, and 3:57/mile. So the equivalent of running 200's in 31s or so. I'm not sure how accurate the garmin is at those short distances though.

(1120: 12 miles --yeah, new shoes!

Comments
From James on Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 23:13:31

How are your 1120s? My twin sister loves them, and I have heard good things about them from others.

From paul on Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:21:07

James, so far they seem pretty good. Only time will tell.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.000.000.000.006.00

Easy 6-mile run in Montrose. It was a warm morning with strong winds out of the east (again). Needless to say, I preferred running west! 7:27/mile average pace. Logan Peak 25-miler tomorrow...

(Adrenaline blue: 203 miles)

Comments
From Chad on Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 11:24:29

Good luck in your race tomorrow, Paul. Sounds like a fun event. I hope to get into the hills myself tomorrow.

Race: Logan Peak Trail Run (26.5 Miles) 05:29:37, Place overall: 5
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
26.500.000.000.000.0026.50

This morning I did my first trail race: the Logan Peak Trail Run. It is a 25-mile semi-loop up in the Bear River Range in Logan. Actually, it was more like 26.5 miles, but whatever. Start elevatoin is about 5000'. Max elevation (Logan Peak) is about 9700'. Total elevation gain/loss is around 7200'. Course map is here. Course profile is here.

The race started at 6:30AM from a park up in the Logan Cliffside neighborhood. I have never been to this park because I am not rich enough. There were 27 runners, which was a good turnout, because the race director's goal was only 20 for this first year. But several of the participants were seasoned, decorated trail runners, so I knew stealing a win would be out of the question, especially since I wanted this race to be a "fun run". Cody and I were planning on running the entire race together, and I was looking forward to the trail, the scenery, and the company.

Start to Mile 4.5 -The first part of the course leaves the park and hits the Bonneville Shoreline Trail. There were some immediate rolling hills. Cody and I found ourselves in 4th or 5th place by the time we departed the BST at the mouth of Dry Canyon, around Mile 1. At Dry Canyon, the race really begins, as there is non-stop climbing to Mile 4.5 on rocky single-track.

We started ascending Dry Canyon and caught a few people. However, we would get passed whenever I stopped to take pictures. It was a slow grinding climb (3000' in 3.5 miles), and we were glad to see the first aid station. Mmmm...trail mix and pretzels. Mile splits were first 4 miles were 9:45, 12:31, 14:41, 16:02. This includes stops, as I wouldn't stop my watch when we took breaks.

Mile 4.5 to Mile 11 - After departing the aid station, the course turned off of Dry Canyon and onto the south portion of the Syncline Trail. Finally, we got some relief from the constant uphill. Terrain was variable - flat, up, down. But in general, this portion of the race was really nice. I had never been on this trail, and was treated to some good views of the Cache Valley and Providence Canyon. We were holding steady somewhere near the Top 5 for position. After a couple miles of single-track, we got on the Welches Flat jeep trail, which wraps around the north side of Providence Canyon. Around Mile 10 we were spat out at the top of Providence Canyon, above the old rock quarry. Terrain was still quite variable, but there was a lot of uphill that we were walking. Once again, we were quite glad to see the second aid station, near Mile 11. This station had even better food, and we took a 5-minute siesta where we focused on cramming food down our mouths.

Mile splits for this stretch were 16:50 (includes stop at first aid station), 9:05, 7:59, 13:55, 10:09, 14:23, 16:45 (includes stop at second aid station). I accidently stopped my watch at the first aid station and didn't realize it until 0.6 miles into this segment, so that threw things off a little.

Mile 11 to Mile 16 - This segment was an out-and-back to the namesake of the race: Logan Peak. We faced a 1000 overall vertical ft climb in 2.5 miles to reach our destination, which for all intents and purposes served as the halfway point of the race. As usual, we were walking the uphills, and running the best we could on the flat and downhill parts. The hardest thing was that we could see Logan Peak the entire time (big radio towers), we had to circumvent a ridge to get up on it first. I was planning on doing the Rocky thing at the very top of Logan Peak, but after the final quarter mile shuffle up to it, I didn't have the energy to jump around, make jabbing motions, and yell "Yeah! Yeah!". Instead I just filled up my water, ate a Gu, and talked to the volunteers. Several people passed Cody and I up here, since we were once again eating, chatting, and taking pictures. Everyone else seemed focused on running or something.

Finally, we started back down Logan Peak, back to aid station #2. We passed back several people, and also got to see the people behind us, who were going up on the out-and-back. It was nice to see the whole field and give them encouragement. Trail races are laid-back events, and it's cool to give and receive smiles from your competitors. We noticed that the first woman (Sarah Evans, a Wasatch Running Center teammate) was about 10 minutes behind us. The downhill was very good to have after the long climb, and we made it back pretty quick to the aid station at the junction. Once again we stopped for trail mix, cookies, drinks, etc, etc. Several people passed us back. I took their picture.

Mile splits for this segment were 14:36, 19:53, 8:07, 8:52, 14:02 (includes aid stop).

Mile 16 to Mile 22 - We turned right at the aid junction this time and continued on the jeep trail. Terrain was undulating (a pattern for this race). Walk, run. Walk, run. I was still feeling pretty good, thanks to the frequent and long aid stops. Around Mile 18, we turned left onto the north segment of the Syncline Trail, and started traversing the south rim of Logan Canyon. Views were fantastic, and I had never been on the stretch before. US-89 was about 4000' below us.

After a couple miles on the Syncline Trail (on which we were moving pretty good), we caught up to runner ahead of us, who had come to a stop at a junction in the trail. We soon saw the dilemma. There was a race sign pointing right, and some flagging on the right junction, but all common sense told us "go left". We decided that someone was playing a mean trick and that going right would take us off a cliff, so the three of us agreed to go left. We soon saw flagging again on our chosen course, and were 99.9% sure we made the correct choice. We found out later that some random jerk turned the sign around and messed with the flagging to be a wise guy. Ah, Cache Valley.

Cody and I ran with the other runner for several miles and chatted a little bit. He was from Salt Lake, that's all I remember. This stretch of single-track dragged on and on, and I kept expecting to see Dry Canyon again "any time", but it never came. Cody and I passed the other runner, who had decided to walk more than we wanted to. Finally, we came to the nose of the ridge and started winding back down to Dry Canyon. Hurrah, no more uphills! On this stretch we passed a guy that I'm pretty sure was in the Top 3 earlier in the race. That was satisfying; we were tired but not slowing down at all. We soon made it to the Dry Canyon aid station, the same station that was our first stop nearly 4.5 hours earlier.

Mile splits for this segment were 12:01, 9:58, 11:37, 13:41, 12:04, 14:24 (includes aid stop).

Miles 22 to 26.5 (finish) - I wasn't intending to spend much time at this aid station, since all we had left was 4.5 miles of sheer downhill, but then we got incentive to take off even faster: the top woman (Sarah Evans) came into the aid station while we were still eating. I didn't say anything, but gave Cody the universal telepathic signal of "We can't get chicked." I don't care that it was a "fun run", it just wasn't going to happen, especially on my home course. I was actually quite impressed with Sarah, though; she must have been hauling over the last 8 miles. Myself, Cody, and Sarah started down the trail, beginning our 3000', 4.5-mile descent. We just pointed ourselves downhill and went. We soon lost her within a mile or so. Crisis averted.

With about 2 miles to go, I was really smelling the barn, but momentum was halted when I hit a big rock at 7:00/mile pace. Gravity + steep downhill + lots of rocks is a bad combination, and I took quite a tumble. I think I absorbed most of the fall with both shoulders, as they really hurt afterward. My left palm got bloodied pretty good, and my right calf cramped up at same time. I peeled myself off the rocks and took a quick assessment: scraped hand with a flat of skin hanging, but nothing deep. Shoulder hurts, but not dislocated. Calf is starting to unlock. Nothing to do but start running again. We found our groove again within a few minutes. I was happy to draw a little blood in my first trail race.

Somewhere in there we passed a runner who had been quite a ways ahead of us. Always a good thing. Some hiker at the botton of the canyon yelled at us we were 4th and 5th. We didn't believe him. We exited Dry Canyon with a mile to go, and climbed up onto the Bonneville Shoreline Trail. The rolling hills of the BST were most unwelcome, but we were almost there, and my legs still had some pop. We made the turn off of the BST, back onto the grass leading back down to the park. I missed the flagging for a turn and Cody corrected me, but got out in front in the process. There was one last very steep downhill going into the park, and Cody looked back and told me he wanted to beat me while I was still stumbling down the grade. I told him he better start sprinting if that was the case. Cody started sprinting. He finished a couple seconds ahead; Cody was indeed 4th overall and I was 5th. The random dude was right. The winner (Leland Barker) was a little more a half hour ahead. Third place was only 5 minutes ahead, and 6th place (the top woman) was two minutes behind. According to my Garmin (SportTracks) we spent about 42 minutes stopped. I suppose if we hadn't have taken so many breaks we could have placed higher...or we might have run slower. In any case, I think I'll recover pretty well due to all the breaks, food, and water I took during the race.

Mile splits for this segment were 9:01, 7:33, 8:30 (with tumble), 7:56, 3:06 (11:08-pace).

This blog entry turned into a book, but it was my first real trail race, and was memorable to me. I enjoyed the vast majority of it, and had a lot of fun running with Cody. It definitely beat doing chores. The race organization was quite good, the course was well-marked (except for vandalized areas), and the aid/food/voluteers were all awesome. Shirts were very cool too. And Cody won a huge vat of HammerGel. Good times. Again, I must say that our Cache Valley trails rock, and I encourage people to come up and run them.

(Cascadia: 196 miles)

Some pictures are below (in chronological order). They are reduced to fit the blog, but you can see full resolution by right-clicking and selecting "view".






Comments
From wildbull on Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 20:41:13

great job on the race. sounds likeyou had a great time.

From James on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 00:10:56

Paul,

Nice run! I hope you didn't get too beat up from the race and the fall. Part of me wished that I would have done it with you and Cody, and the rest of me enjoyed just watching the finish. Maybe next year I will give it a try. Now that you guys have a taste for runs like that we can plan on the Grand canyon next year.

From Jon on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 00:19:39

Great pictures! And I love your humor of the entry (Several people passed us- I took their picture)

From Cody on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 00:29:47

Paul, sweet run! Couldn't have done it without you. Good times...as you would say.

From wheakory on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 01:27:19

Great run Paul sounds like you had a blast and that's what it's all about. Sometimes running for fun vs. being serious is why we run.

From bc on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 01:43:37

These are great, a picture tells a lot. We live in a great state.

From 26.2runner on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 11:39:10

Hey Paul, I've decided to finally go with a blog. How do I make my blog "live"? In other words, how do I make it a web page--like yours. Thanks,

Joe

From 26.2runner on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 11:48:03

Sorry Paul, I figured it out. Maybe it would help if I read Sasha's instructions better. Take care.

From James on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 17:16:17

I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure that you are 28 today. Happy Birthday buddy!

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 17:54:24

Yup, I'm getting old!

From BC on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 18:15:50

Hey, Cancers are cool. Happy B-day.

From Cody on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 18:55:32

Happy Birthday! I hope you are feeling better than me. I am SORE! Enjoy your day!

From Chad on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 18:59:51

Paul--if you're 26.5 course measurement is correct, you just ran your first ultra. Congrats! I wouldn't feel bad about Leland Barker beating me by a half hour. The year I ran the Wasatch 100 (2001), he won the race and beat me by about 12 hours :) Anyway, great job. Looks like a beautiful course and a fun race. Next stop, the Bear 100.

Oh, and how did you upload the pictures? Did you post them to a web page and then paste the link? If so, what did you upload them to?

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 20:10:23

Cody, my legs are a little sore, particularly the hip flexors, abductors, and a little bit in the quads. Most of my soreness in my shoulders from the impact of chundering head-first down Dry Canyon. My left knee is a little bruised too, but arnica has already helped that a lot.

Chad, yeah Leland is a Cache Valley legend and I was happy to finally meet him. I will probably do the Bear 100...that is, I am thinking about volunteering at one of the aid stations! It will be a fun thing to do during my St. George taper. By the way, there is a documentary about the Bear 100 that is pretty good, you may want to check it out:

http://www.amazon.com/Dancing-Bear-Kelly-Bradbury/dp/B000QSIZGM/ref=sr_11_1/102-5583538-1908927?ie=UTF8&qid=1179175272&sr=11-1

Regarding pictures, the only way to post them is to upload them to a website and then link to them. I uploaded them to my MarathonGIS.com website.

From David on Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 21:56:52

Happy birthday Leland Jr.

From Jon on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:44:33

Yeah, happy birthday.

Chundering? Are you making up words again?

From David on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 15:02:17

Paul, I've always suspected Jon was something of a chunderhead.

From Jon on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 15:12:50

Hey, watch it now- my mom taught me it's not nice to use a word if you don't know what it means. And in this case, even if you do know what it means. Especially if you are referring to me.

From dutch on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 15:15:31

chun-der [CHUHN der]: verb

to vomit

gross, paul.

From Jon on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 15:54:26

Thanks for the translation, Ben.

From dutch on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 17:17:11

paul's not leland jr. until he carries a folding 410 shotgun and shoots a grousse from a tree at mile ~3 and carries the bird the rest of the way.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 17:22:38

Ben, is that a true story??

FYI, Chundering is also geology slang used in reference to hurling rocks from a high cliff into a canyon just to hear the noise. Rolling the rocks is also acceptable. In this case, the "rock" was my body.

From Jon on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 20:49:32

That one makes more sense. I was trying to figure out how you vomited head first...

From dutch on Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 08:41:30

For better or worse, yes. When I ran this course with Kelly, Leland was with us and was hunting grouse with a "survival gun" that folded up. It was the most bizarre (and yet coolest) thing I've ever seen.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Took a day off to recover from the trail race. I'm more sore from my spill than anything.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.500.000.000.000.004.50

AM - easy 4.5 miles on Planet Walk, with some running with the dog. I was pleasantly surprised with how good I felt. I still have a little bit of soreness, but apparently in nothing that I need to run on flat roads. I'm a bit more optimistic about running well at the Sandy Classic this Wednesday. Didn't wear watch.

(1120: 16 miles

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.000.000.000.007.00

Post trail race recovery day / pre-10K taper day. Take your pick. Easy 7 miles around 7:00/mile pace on the canal trail loop. Did 4x100m strides near the end. All in all, I felt pretty good. Most of the effects of the trail race seem to be gone, although only a hard effort (such as a 10K race) will tell for sure.

(Adrenaline blue: 210 miles)

Race: Sandy Classic 10K (6.2 Miles) 00:33:01, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 2
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.700.000.006.300.0013.00

This morning was the Sandy Classic 10K. Driving 90 miles each way just to run for half an hour is always a bit risky, but I was optimistic it would pay off for me. I knew that the Sandy Classic field tends not to be very deep, so it was a prime opportunity to grab a fist-full of LDR Circuit points. That, and money went three deep - $200, $150, $100. If I could pull out at least 3rd and/or beat all of the other LDR runners, it would be worth the drive.

Got up at 4:20AM, scarfed some oatmeal, and started the drive to Sandy. Arrived at 6:15, an hour before the race. It's a good thing I had extra time, because they had not received my registration and had no record of me. Fortunately, the volunteers worked with me and got me into the race.

Found Sasha and did a short warmup. Then put on my racing flats and did some strides. Legs were feeling decent, but I wouldn't really know the impact of the trail marathon I did 4 days ago until Mile 2 or so...

During warmup I was able to scope all of the competition. Most people were in the 5K, and only about 100-120 runners in the 10K. 1st place immediately looked very doubtful when I spotted Hobie Call. Also, Nick McCombs (former BYU runner) was in the field. I wasn't sure exactly how fast Nick was, just that he's a good runner, but Sasha seemed to think I could stay with him if I had a good day. I was eager to race against Nick, and even Hobie, to see how I stacked up against some runners I've heard a lot about but haven't really raced.

The 5K and 10K are the same loop course. The 10K runners do two loops. They started the 5K, and then the 10K started 10 minutes later (early of all things). Immediately, Hobie took it out hard; he had no intentions of running with anyone and we had no intentions of going out at that pace. I was in 2nd for the first half mile or so, and then Nick caught up to me and we started running together. First mile in 5:00, despite rolling hills and net uphill. That could be trouble later on; I think the Hobie vortex sucked us all out hard.

Nick and I stayed together for the second mile. I was feeling okay, but not great. The pace felt very hard, and I wasn't feeling up to running 4 more miles like that. There was some more uphill on Mile 2, and also a good downhill. I was surprised to see 5:03 for my split. 10:03 for 2 miles, no wonder it felt hard! At this point it felt safe to say I had recovered from the trail race.

After 2 miles, Nick separated from me and slowly put on a gap. I didn't have the initiative or inertia to go after him. Mile 3 was very rolling, with a series of short climbs and descents. In addition, we had caught the 5K runners, and not just the walkers and stragglers! We were weaving through and passing hordes of runners. My tangents were terrible, but I didn't want to get cut off by anyone. Nick, on the other hand, was shooting through people and running perfect tangents. Mile split was 5:16. Estimated 5K split was 15:52. My time goal on the course was to break 33:00, and I was on pace for sub-32:00...but I was pretty sure I couldn't duplicate my first half effort.

At the halfway point Nick was maybe 10-15 seconds ahead of me, and Hobie 20 seconds ahead of him. I could see Hobie once in while, but he was usually around the next curve. Based on crowd feedback, there wasn't anyone close behind me. At this point I knew that if I could run a solid second half, I would meet my goals by finishing Top 3 ($$$), and also I would be the top LDR point scorer, as Hobie and Nick are not in the Circuit.

Mile 4 was difficult due to the hills, but I worked through them and managed a 5:18. At this point, I was pretty happy to be under 5:20 pace.

Mile 5 had the downhill section, and I managed a 5:13. Nick was still slowly pulling away, and I wasn't feeling a miracle finish coming on. At this point, we were passing the slower 10K runners who were still on their first lap. Again, my tangents were nasty bad, and I couldn't seem to focus on running smart.

By Mile 6, I was feeling pretty gassed and unmotivated. Still running bad tangents. Mile split was 5:25. I kicked it in a bit to finish strong, then got a little confused about the finish chutes (5K on the right, 10K on the left), which cost me a few second. Averaged 5:03/mile pace for the last little bit, which was 0.35 miles, according to my Garmin. This would mean that I ran about 200m extra. The course was certified, and I think I can account for all of the extra distance due to bad tangents. It just goes to show how all of the corners add up.

My watch time was 33:05, but I think I might have stopped it late, so I'm saying 33:03 until I see official results. (update: official results say 33:01). That comes out to 5:12/mile (using my Garmin distance), which I'm pretty happy with. Hobie won with a time around 31:30 (amazing on that course). Nick was second with something like 32:25. Vance Twitchell (former USU XC/track runner) was 4th, slightly less than a minute behind me. Sasha was 5th, around 35:00.

I'm pretty happy with my physical performance today. It wasn't stellar, but was solid. I'd give it a "B+". What cost me, though, was my head. I didn't focus well enough to run good tangents, or to push myself really hard during the last mile. I'll give my head a "C".

The awards were informal, just people clustering around a table. The race director handed out hundred-dollar bills on the spot. Salt Lake City Marathon should take notes on this. I enjoyed the course layout. It was challenging, but not overbearing, and you could still find a good rhythm. What I didn't like was fighting against the crowds of 5K runners and lapped 10K runners...but whatever, it was fine.

Jogged around a bit for a cooldown, and then drove home. When I got home, I grabbed a brisk 4 miles on the Planet Walk to work the drive out of me and finish off my day. 6:34/mile average pace.

(1120: 23 miles)

*****

Oh, one more note. It was inspiring talking to Hobie. The guy trains like an animal. He said he was doing 125 miles/week in preparation for Salt Lake City Marathon. The hard work is very evident, not just at Salt Lake, but also today on a course that required strength and speed. He is planning on running Top of Utah as his Olympic Trials Qualifer. Best of luck.

It's time for me to get my mileage back up in the 90's and to start doing some hard training myself. I think running this race and getting my butt kicked so bad by a guy who runs almost double the mileage I do was a good motivator for me. I've also been reading "Running with the Buffaloes" a book that chronicles the 1998 CU cross country season. The book is excellent so far, and also very motivational. Those guys gave it their all and trained like maniacs, all for the team. Nick, if you are reading this, you must read this book!

Comments
From Jon on Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 14:12:34

Congrats on the race- you missed a very competitive Freedom run but sounds like you had a good race.

From wheakory on Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 14:37:28

Very nice time, and nice to grab some cash. That's very impressive since you finished such a hard trail marathon four days ago. Paul you've got the talent to achieve great things to come.

From Brent on Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:40:53

Impressive race, it is difficult to drive for 90 minutes and run. Congrads on grabbing some cash.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:45:02

Paul - I think I figured out what was wrong with the course. It is primarily slow because it is virtually impossible to run anywhere close to good tangents on it. The loop measured at 3.075 when I mapped it with perfect tangents. Sloppy, it measured 3.15, which is closer to what I was getting on the GPS.

From James on Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 17:19:51

Paul,

Good job today, especially with a short recovery from that trail run! I am sure that it took more out of you then you think, and that is why the 10K seemed harder. We missed you kicking our butts at the freedom run 15K, but it sounds like it was worth your trip to go down to Sandy. Let's hook up for a run or two this week.

From Jon on Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 17:38:33

Did you buy that book?

From Nick on Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 18:02:57

Nice race Paul! As for the book, I own it and have probably read it five times through. It was one of the sole reasons I began running. It is an excellent motivator, and I really reccomend this book to anyone that likes the sport (or is currently looking for drive). If I could only read one running book, that would be it. It is way cool because I have done a lot of runs that the team does in the book (The Tank, Magnolia road and the Buff Ranch to name a few). I think that this also made me do bad at the time trials last year, though (along with going off of a sole three months of running). That book builds a "god-like" aura among the team, so when I was placed in a actual race environment with them, I was mentally pre-destined to run poorly. I had an idea that they were unbeatable, no matter how well I ran. After living in Boulder for a bit now, this is one thing that I feel I have finally overcome. After seeing big names and fantastic runners, I have come to the realization that they are in fact, normal people like you and me. I think that this is one of the most important aspects of the sport. Like they say in the book, you can't be afraid to hold your hands in the fire. Knowing this, my racing has really changed. I may not be the most qualified or the most fit runner in the field, but come race time I want to throw myself in the mix. In my opinion, clearing your mind of mental barriers is the most important thing you can do because it allows you to run to your full potential.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 18:38:40

Jon, no I did not buy it, I am reviewing it. I has surprised me so far in how good it is, and I hope I get to keep it.

From Superfly on Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 23:04:51

Good race Paul.

I was just wondering if Hobie said anything about why he isn't running St. George? We all have always wondered why he runs everything else and not the fastest course in the state. Any insights from the animal?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 10:28:06

Clyde, I asked Hobie that very question. He said that St. George is too close to the Trials. Of course, that explains this year, but not all the non-trials years. He also said that he thought that TOU wasn't a whole lot slower than St. George.

From jtshad on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 11:03:44

Paul, impressive race. Congratulations on the strong run and high finish. Your running timies continues to be very impressive!

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 13:05:38

Paul - I looked up Vance Twitchell's times. On May 9th he ran a steeplechase in 8:54 and a 5000 in 14:59 in the same meet (Western Athletic Conference in Fresno, CA). I assume the steeplechase was first. He won the steeplechase and was third in the 5000. Between then and now he had less than 2 months to get out of shape. You beat him by about a minute. Don't know if he could have gone faster, but I suppose he tried to race it for at less than a mile, then obviously could not hold the pace.

Another point of reference - Pat Smyth ran the same course in 32:26 last year, being a 14:10 5000 runner. So I'd imagine it would be safe to say you are in about 14:40 5000 at sea level shape right now.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 13:20:13

Sasha, have you verified it's the same course as last year?

I talked to Vance for a while after the race. He came close to qualifying for nationals, but didn't make the selection. He hadn't run much since then, and had taken several weeks off. He jumped onto the Roadrunner Wasatch Back team, but I don't think he was running at all before then. The only reason he ran Saturday was because he lives in Sandy. He is a very good D-I runner, but currently out of shape.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 13:36:36

Bill Cobler would know for sure, he ran it both times. I talked to Steve, he said last year it was also two loops with some distance added on.

How much fitness do you lose in 2 months of loafing around Vance's style?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 14:39:43

Clyde, the other thing Hobie mentioned was that the lack of prize cash at St. George was a bit of a turn-off.

From Jon on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 14:53:07

I think he just knows which race is better!

From "D" Ence on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 00:15:49

I've read parts of the book, pretty interesting. A really good friend of mine from high school Clint Wells, went to CU and I ran at a few meets where Adam Goucher was my senior year in high school. It was pretty fun my junior year Clint and Me went out to Wisconsin to the Foot Locker Race and hung out some with Goucher and some other guys that went on to run at CU. A good running program and school.

I'm glad you got to meet Hobie. He is quite a talent. It still surprised me when you said the guy is running 125 miles a week. I live in the same small town of 3000 people, and I've never ran into him running. I know he does work at a health club, so maybe he does a lot of his training over there? I still wish he would run St. George. My feeling is you try your best to support your local races. I understand the argument about prize money, but St. George is still a note worthy marathon and I believe faster than TOU.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.000.000.0013.50

AM - easy 8.5-mile recovery run on Logan Loop. 7:34/mile average pace. Feel okay after race.

(Adrenaline blue: 219 miles)

PM - easy 5 miles on Planet Walk, with 4x150m barefoot strides in the LHS grass fields. Didn't wear watch. Strides were very easy, and included running through sprinklers. Yeah! So hot out...I can't believe how low the Logan River is right now; I've never seen it like this.

(Adrenaline orange: 393 miles)

Side note: the Logan Chapter of the FastRunningBlog made the front page of the local sports section today, for a cool-down of all things. The photographer must have been late to the race!

Caption: James Barnes, Cody Draper, Logan Fielding, and Jon Allen run the wrong direction and get in everyone's way, ruining the Freedom Run for all. Quote Draper: "Hey, it's the 4th of July, I can do whatever I want! Take that, Britain!"

Comments
From Logan on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 12:26:30

Great job on your race yesterday. You had some really good competition to go against. Keep up the great training!

From Jon on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 14:36:10

Are you pulling my leg or is that really the caption?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 14:42:55

It's really the caption in my blog...

From Superfly on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 16:09:03

LOL - Too funny.

From Cody on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 23:25:39

What!!!

It was taken out of context!!!

From "D" Ence on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 23:52:57

Going the wrong way is something I do best!

From Jon on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 12:05:32

If they showed the picture 10 seconds later you would have seen Cody colliding with the racer...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.500.000.000.000.0011.50

Didn't sleep well last night because of the heat. We don't have A/C, but usually sticking a fan in the window is just as good in Logan. Not so lately, as it didn't really cool down at all last night. By the time it was cool enough to sleep, it was time to get up and run. I pulled myself out of bed at 6AM and ran over to the canal trailhead to meet James. From there ran the canal trail to First Dam to the Bonneville Trail to Green Canyon, and then back through USU campus. Pace was crawling, 7:53/mile average. I was glad to run with James today, because I sure didn't feel like getting up and running!

(1120: 34 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 12:06:12

Are you guys up for evening runs next week? My wife will not be home Monday/Tuesday, so I can go on long runs pretty late.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.502.500.000.000.0015.00

Met Cody and James at the canal trailhead and ran to the end of the river trail and back (15-miler). Pace on the way up was pretty easy, but we gradually picked up the pace and did some tempo on the way (5:45/mile pace or so). 6:30/mile pace after the tempo back to the start. Felt okay, but not great. Still in race recovery mode, but this was a good way to end my week.

(Cascadia: 211 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

Easy run on the Planet Walk, plus a mile with the dog. Didn't wear watch. I felt pretty good this morning, and feel ready to attack a good week of training. I hope to get in the upper 80s this week.

(Adrenaline orange: 398 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.500.004.000.500.0013.00

Workout today. Warmed up 5 miles on the Landfill Loop, with 1.5 miles of tinman tempo at 6:00/mile pace. Took a pit stop, then ran out to the LHS track to do an interval session: 6x1000m at CV pace, with 2:00 (200m) rest. Intervals were 3:15, 3:16, 3:16, 3:14, 3:14, 3:14 (~5:12/mile pace). My legs felt decent, but my form felt sloppy and not very sharp. After the intervals I went out to the grass rec fields and did 4x200m barefoot strides through the soggy grass (sprinklers had been on). Cooled down a couple miles afterward. All in all, a good solid workout.

(1120: 47 miles)

Comments
From James on Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:50:02

Nice workout! It looks like you were very consistant in your intervals. I know what you mean about the sloppy form, I haven't been to the track in a month and I am sure I will have the same problem when I get back there.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.500.000.000.000.0014.50

AM - met James at the Island Market and headed up the Center Street hill, then through River Heights and Providence. Came back along the TOU course. Pace was slow, and my body didn't feel very perky. 7:51/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 229 miles)

PM - met Jon at the Rec Center and did the Planet Walk (5 miles). Hot. 7:35/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 403 miles)

Comments
From Chad on Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 15:24:46

Paul, I should have offered already to let you crash. You guys are more than welcome, so just plan on it. What I have to offer is luxurious futon, air mattress, couch and floor space. We'll put you downstairs, outside of the baby atmospherics.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.000.000.0013.50

AM - I really didn't want to run this morning, so I sought out some company to make it easier, and fortunately found Cody and the LHS track. He will finishing up his interval workout, so I paced him in a 400 at 72s, and a 200 in 32s. It's definitely hard to go into a 400m interval with only 2 minutes of warmup (I live next the track), but I felt pretty good after the 200. I figured that took care of my strides for the run. I ran with Cody on his cooldown, and then did the landfill loop after he went home. 7:24/mile average pace for the run (7.5 miles)

(1120: 54 miles)

PM - had a dinner run late, so I didn't get to hit the road until 9PM. Did the canal trail route (6 miles). It was getting pretty dark, and I ran past a shadowy figure running the other way at sub-7minute pace. I took a good look back, trying to figure out if it was Jon, Cody, or James, since there's only so many people in Logan that run sub-7 pace. The shadowy figure looked back too, probably thinking the same thing. Turned out to be Jon, so I turned around and ran with him back to his car, and then back home via the Boulevard. Better to run with people than to run alone, IMO. That makes me 2/2 today on bumping into friends while running. 7:07/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 409 miles)

Comments
From Superfly on Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 11:58:33

That's funny about the new box of awards. I'm going to give Dustin and Steve O one each and then send them up to des news. I don't need 9 batons. Maybe we could make a musical insterment out of them and play it next year at WBR?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

Long Workout Day. I wanted to do some hills, so I ran from my house up Center Street to Dry Canyon (600 ft climb). Pace up to Dry Canyon was around 7:45/mile or so. Then I hopped on the Bonneville Shoreline/Deerfence Trail, and took it past Providence Canyon to Millville Canyon. The Deerfence is very rolling, and my goal here was to work the uphills and recover/maintain on the downhills. I managed to average a little over 7-minute pace on this 4.5-mile stretch of trail, which I was pretty happy with. At Millville Canyon, I left the trail and hit the road back down to Millville and Providence, maintaining tinman tempo pace. Did a downhill mile 5:47, an uphill mile in 5:55 (the uphill mile on the TOU course through Millville), and then a flat/downhill mile in 5:47 (TOU course into Providence). Finished out the last three miles cooldown averaging 6:40 pace. 14 miles total. 6:56/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 243 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:23:58

Nice workout, especially the 7:45 uphill.

From James on Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 13:21:41

Hey "top runner on the blog", nice workout! I have never rn that run that way before, I always go to Providence canyon first and come down Mountain Rd. I will have to try it your way and see if there is much of a difference.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.500.000.000.000.0014.50

AM - easy run on Logan Loop. 7:18/mile average pace.

(1120: 62 miles)

PM - ran the River Trail with Cody (6 miles). Felt pretty good. 7:15/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 415 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 14:17:43

I sent you an email about Ragnar forum.

Also, what were the ragnar batons for? Did we (Clyde) win our division for fastest time up the leg?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 15:44:43

The batons are just for taking third in our division. We have twelve extra, so we can throw them at other runners next year. I'm pretty sure the Roadrunners guy one the division for fastest Rangar leg, but I don't know if they even track that anymore.

From Jon on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 16:39:02

So we have 24 identical batons? Boy, that's a good use of money. I can just picture us using them next year to clock other runners over the head or pelt them with aluminum from the van.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 16:43:44

That's pretty much what I had in mind. Either that, or making some sort of pressurized multi-barrel weapon out of them, like a cross between a gatlin gun and a potato gun.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 17:01:27

Nick McCombs ran Ragnar in 32 minutes, not sure high or low. Who was the Roadrunners guy?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 17:08:58

It was a USU runner, not sure which one. James might know. But supposedly he ran around 28 minutes.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 17:13:51

This sounds very suspicious. I do not think a sub-27:00 10 K runner could have run that leg in 28 based on what we've seen from Clyde and Nick.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 17:38:19

I just looked up the results on the Ragnar site. I was a little off, but it's still fast:

Open Male - RoadRunners - 00:29:16

Also there was a person from the high school division who ran 33:45.

I think a Top 5 D-I collegiate XC runner would trash 28 minutes. I doubt the person who ran 29:16 has even qualified for nationals as an individual. But he definitely a gifted hill runner.

From Jon on Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 00:57:08

He actually finished within about 30 seconds of Clyde. Fortunately, their last 2 runners weren't up to beating us. I heard his team cheering him on to break 29 minutes.

The most questionable is the 24 minute record by BYU the first year, along with the 29 minute female time.

From 26.2runner on Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 12:41:27

Hey Paul, I have a question for you about maps/distances/streets. Rather than go into great detail here, will you read my 7/14 entry and get back to me? Thanks, Joe

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 13:24:57

Jon, I imagine Ragnar was a shorter distance that first year.

From James on Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 21:17:05

Seth Wold was the fastest guy on Ragnar, and he told me the other day that he did it in 29:36, but he might have not remembered right and ran 20 seconds faster. He said he saved himself for it on his other legs. He and Vance Twitchell were USU's best

X-country runners last year.

I don't know if I believe the High school 33:45 though!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.000.000.000.000.0016.00

Met Jon and Cody at First Dam and then carpooled up Logan Canyon to Franklin Basin. We parked in the lot near the highway, and then started up Franklin Basin Road, which is a fairly well-maintained dirt forest road. Parking lot elevation is about 6600', and temps were in the low 50s to start the run at 7AM. Perfect! It felt really good for my arms and hands to be a little chilly in the shade. The road climbs at a fairly steady 4% grade (~200ft/mile), and our pace going up was pretty slow -- a lot of miles in the 8:30 to 8:50 range. We turned around at the junction of Gibson Lake Rd, which happened to be exactly 8.0 miles. We took that as a sign not to get greedy and go further. Elevation here was 8100', so we had climbed 1500'. Going down was much faster, and the last three miles turned into a bit of a mini-tempo - 6:44, 6:36, 6:30, 6:46, 6:26, 5:58, 5:44, 5:48. It was already getting warm by the bottom. Also, various campers were cooking bacon as we passed their campsites. I really wanted to stop and say "hello, please give me bacon", but restrained myself. 7:32/mile average pace for the entire 16-mile run. A good Saturday morning.

That gives me 90 miles for the week, tying my highest mileage week for the year. If I do Draper Days, I will drop down a little bit next week, but if I don't run it then I'll maintain upper 80s another week before the Des News 10K. After Des News, I'll start my 9-week "marathon program", which pretty much involves doing the same thing I've been doing for the last 6 months.

(Cascadia: 227 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.500.000.000.000.004.50

Planet Walk, easy, no watch. It was shirtless running weather already at 8AM. I am sick of July.

(Adrenaline orange: 420 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

Did Millville Loop, with 7-mile tinman tempo in the middle. I was feeling a little lethargic to start the run, so I eased into the tempo without giving myself unrealistic expectations. Tempo splits were 6:09 (rolling), 6:11 (uphill), 6:34 (big uphill), 5:55 (rolling), 5:49 (rolling, downhill), 5:51 (downhill), 5:52 (flat). Cooled down with a few 6:55 miles. Decent workout today. I still don't know if I'm running Draper Days, so am playing this week by ear.

(1120: 75 miles)

Comments
From James on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 18:04:23

That is a good workout you had. I am not exactly sure where you went but if it is like the Millville hill loop that I do it is a tough run, and you ran some fast miles.

From Cody on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 20:54:56

I don't know how you can go up that big hill in 6:34. I am lucky to break 8. You looked like you were moving pretty good when I saw you. Leisurely stroll at 6:00 pace...

From James on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 21:02:23

Paul,

I mapped out that 5K course on both of those sites that you put on Joe's blog. They both were about the same and said that the course was 3.26 miles, elevation was almost exactly the same too. I couldn't figure our how to use the course tool, I'm not really that computer savvy.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 21:07:52

Cody - 6:34 was just the average for the mile that contained the big hill. The hill itself is only about a half mile, so slightly misleading.

James - both sites are Google-based, so its not surprising they give you the same distance. There's a lot of nuances in course measurement, with tangents and exact start/finish line locations being some of the bigger factors.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 23:14:15

James - enter the approximate location of the course into the location box (eg. Nephi, UT). Zoom in to the appropriate level. Press the right mouse button down while the cursor is somewhere on the map. Drag the mouse around with the button pressed - this will move the map. Zero in on the start of the course. Choose Satellite mode so you can see the aerial view. Click on the start of the course (once). Then click on the first point of the route. Keep going until you get to the finish of the course. The map will auto-adjust so you can always click the next point of the route while still zoomed in to a high level of detail. When done, name the course, add a short description and save it. If this still does not help, call me 801-788-4608.

From Jon on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 00:23:14

Paul

For a tinman tempo, what should be the approximate distance of the tempo and of the whole run?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 09:50:50

Jon - in general a tinman tempo can be any distance and the whole run can be any distance. For marathon training, though, the "Big Workout" approach is best. A Big Workout lasts between 1:30-2:00, so in the neighborhood of 14-18 miles. I typically warm up for a couple miles then do a tinman tempo of up to 8 miles (although it could be shorter or longer), then some striders and cooldown.

I also like to do a couple miles of tinman tempo before and/or after track interval sessions. It makes the overall workout longer and more aerobic.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - easy 8-mile run on the Landfill Loop (via Planet Walk) and then a block with the dog. Took bio break near landfill, which I thought was appropriate. Felt much better afterward, and did 4x100m strides to finish up. 6:57/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 251 miles)

PM - easy 5 miles on Planet Walk. Got rained halfway through, which was a pleasant treat. Nice lightening too. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline orange: 425 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:00:52

Is a bio break what I think it is?

From Cody on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:07:46

Watch you step if you venture off the road, you never know who has been there before...

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:09:58

Thanks goodness for those willow trees. They are good for both cover and...other things.

From Jon on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:41:53

I have explored the trees near that little creek, too. Beautiful area. Love the outdoors.

From Mike K on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 14:42:59

Arrowleaf Balsamroot. It beats corncobs.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.001.500.0015.00

AM - Did a Daniels-style [R] workout this morning, the first and last one of the year. I use fast interval training very sparingly, and think of it generally as glorified striders. I met James out at the LHS track and did 400-200-400-200-400-200-400-200, with full recovery (400m rest after each 400, 200m rest after each 200). According to my supposed VDOT, my R pace is about 67 seconds per lap, so I aimed to hit that for my 400s, and 33 for my 200s. The purpose of this workout was not to make myself hurt or kill myself, but to work on form and increase running economy.

My splits for the alternating 400s and 200s were: 68.2, 32.9, 67.9, 33.4, 67.7, 33.0, 67.2, 30.1

I felt a lot smoother than my last track workout, and all of the reps felt controlled and relatively easy; never really entered the state of anaerobia, which is always a bonus. I opened it up a bit on the last 200m to hit 30, but again, it was controlled.

Ran a few more miles with James and then a block with the dog to hit an even 10 miles for the morning.

(1120: 82 miles)

PM - 5 miles with Cody, up Center Street and down through River Heights. Hot. 7:20/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 430 miles)

Comments
From Superfly on Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:07:22

Interesting workout. One of these days I'll have to try it.

From James on Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 12:19:26

Thanks for the calculator. I was surprisingly close to where was supposed to be. I just based my guess off of how far I usually am behind you.

I never asked you why you aren't doing Draper Days?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 12:30:17

Draper: no comp = no run

If I weren't doing Des News 10K it would probably be a different story, but it didn't seem worth it to drive 100 miles and pay an entry fee to run for 15 minutes.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 17:54:21

Oops, spoke too soon, the comps came through. Looks like I'm running Draper after all! I still hate driving that far for a 5K though. Maybe I'll stop at Knead a Massage in Sugarhouse on the way back to claim my free Wasatch Back massage to make it more worth it.

From Jon on Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 23:42:57

Why are you not going to do another Daniels if it was a good workout?

From James on Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 11:18:19

Because it was too easy and short for him!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.500.000.000.000.0010.50

Ran a block with the dog, then biked up to the canal trailhead, where I met James and Cody. We ran easy to near the end of the River Trail single track and back. 7:58/mile average pace.

(Cascadia: 237)

**Note: surpassed the 2,000 mile-mark today for yearly mileage. I think this is the first time I've done this since my junior-senior year of college (2000). And it's only July!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

Easy run on Planet Walk. Draper Days 5K tomorrow.

(Adrenaline blue:  256 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 17:02:53

Where is your race report from today?

Race: Draper Days 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:15:23, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 3
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.900.000.003.100.0013.00

Today was the Draper Days 5K. I ran this race in 2003 and 2004, and think it's a great course. Fast, but still legit, as there are several uphills. I have run only three 5K's since that 2004 Draper race (vs. 7 marathons), so I was not sure what I was capable of. But my initial goal time going into today was 15:10.

I stayed with Mike last night (thanks again Mike), so got to sleep in until 5:20AM and drive a mere 20 minutes to the start line. This was opposed to getting up at 4AM and driving 100 miles. Already a good start to the day.

For the second straight week they didn't have my number at the start line, so I had to run around and get an official to give me a number. After that I warmed up for a couple miles with Sasha, Scott, and Cody. Changed my shoes, did some strides, hit the porta-pot, and was ready to go.

At the start line, there was a pretty good field. Nick McCombs, who had beaten me soundly at Sandy, was there, and so was Neal Gassman and then a few fast-looking "unknowns" (unknown in that I didn't know exactly who they were, not that they didn't have credentials). I thought that Top 3 would be a doable finish though, as I didn't see Teren Jamenson or Trevor Ball or anyone like that.

The race started on time. The first mile is all downhill at a nice gradient: very fast. The field got out hard and I was boxed for the first quarter mile or so. I stayed relaxed and eventually worked my way through by the half mile. Nick went sprinting by at about a half mile and joined the leaders. By the end of the first mile the field had filtered out. Nick and a runner I didn't know (turned out to be Seth Wold, USU runner and "Ragnar" champion) were running side-by-side in front, I was a few seconds behind them, and Sasha was a few seconds behind me. Went through the first mile in 4:36 according to the Garmin, 4:40 according to the course marking. I missed the next two mile marks, so just used the garmin for splits. I was feeling okay at one mile, but not overly snappy. I tried to catch Seth and Nick but couldn't make up the gap at this point in the race.

Mile 2 is a bit more rolling, with a fair bit of uphill for the greater part of it. Seth broke away from Nick around 1.5 miles, and I was still a few seconds behind both. No breathing or signs of anyone behind me, and I tried to focus on catching Nick. Still feeling okay, not great but not bad either. Second mile split was 5:01. So far I was right on pace for low 15-teens, if I could just pull off another mile like that.

Mile 3 begins with the "biggest" climb of the course (although still not that bad), but from 2.5 to the finish it is all flat or slightly downhill. So half up and half down. I wasn't doing great on the uphill, but when we turned the corner it flattened out. I tried to pick it up, and finally had some success with reeling Nick in a little. With less than a half mile to go he only had about 2 seconds on me. Seth was several seconds ahead of Nick and apparently cruising for the win. However, I couldn't engage my 5K killer instinct and wasn't able to muster any sort of kick. I was working hard, but I've found that a good kick in a 5K is always there, if and only if you want it bad enough and turn off those inhibitors. Couldn't lower the inhibitors today though. Strangely, Seth pulled up with about a quarter mile left and let Nick catch him. Then he and Nick finished the race together. Technically Nick was the winner and Seth was second. Actually, technically Nick Miller was second, since Seth used his number. I was definitely third though. Nick/Seth finished in 15:16 and I chugged in at 15:23. My third mile split was 5:08. According the Sasha's course tool and my own experience, the third mile should be about as fast as the second, so I definitely slowed up a little. But it wasn't death or anything, just lack of ability to run anaerobically.

I wanted 15:10 and got 15:23, slightly disappointing but not really. It's close. Winds were favorable. Temps were a little high (low 80s by 6AM), which could have slowed things a little if you put value in heat charts. Fortunately the sun was low, which minimizes the heat effect IMO. But today was my "Utah PR" for the 5K - my fastest time since moving to Utah in 2001. I'll take that. Also, I feel like I ran a little better relative to my peer group. Nick was only 7 seconds ahead this race, opposed to 28 seconds in the Sandy 10K. So I closed that gap a bit. Also Neal (4th place) was 30 seconds behind me today, which was a much bigger gap than I expected (in fact I initially figured Neal and I were pretty even in a 5K). So that was good. Also, today was my eighth LDR circuit race, so I've got all my races in now. Seth/Nick Miller will drop from the results, so today was good for 2nd in terms of LDR points. The rest of my LDR races will be for just bonus points and perhaps swapping out a finish or two, but I'm mostly finished now with my scoring.

Anyway, overall good race. Cooled down several times with Cody afterwards, and also ate the $3 breakfast at the park. Then I drove to Sugarhouse and collected my free 30-minute massage (Wasatch Back coupon). Then picked up my packet for Des News. Then drove home.

PM - easy jog around the block with the dog to shake out the race.

(1120: 90 miles)


Comments
From James on Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 17:35:49

Nice race Paul! I am a little surprised that Seth Wold one that thing, although he is the king of Ragnar. He must really be getting in shape this summer, because he had a very mediocre track season. There is no better workout for Des News than a 15:23 5k. Plus, it was an excellent race, and I'm sure the points and winnings were good too.

Thanks for picking up my packet for me.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 17:50:50

I was very impressed with Seth. He definitely had a lot more "burst" than Nick and I. You could tell that Nick and I are training for marathons and Seth is still in XC/track mode. Regardless, he is an excellent runner.

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 18:24:30

Paul - Nick McCombs had 33 seconds on you in Sandy Classic. Nick also was the official winner of the race with Seth second. Seth ran 14:33 in April in Oregon this year. Most people ran 20-30 seconds slower than I expected them today, which is consistent with the Tinman heat chart adjustment for 80 degrees. Congratulation on the performance.

From Cody on Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 18:48:47

Paul,

Nice running as usual. You are one consistent runner! Thanks for the company today and kick some trash at DN 10K

From Jon on Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 18:54:11

Nice race! We expect a win at the 10k, now.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Scheduled day off. No soreness from Draper Days, and just a little fatigue. I think I will recover well for Des News 10K and look forward to some stiff competition. Should be a fun race.

Comments
From Logan on Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 20:51:24

Great job on the race yesterday. Good luck in the 10K on Tuesday. I have run it a couple times and enjoyed it. Sub-30:00 is possible there.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

Easy 5 miles on Planet Loop and 4x100m barefoot strides in the grass at LHS. I can still feel the 5K a little bit, but otherwise feeling pretty good.

(Adrenaline orange: 435 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 14:50:44

You and your made-up words.

Spiderpig, spiderpig...

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 15:06:03

BART

K-W-Y-J-I-B-O... Kwyjibo. 22 points... plus 50 points for using all my letters! Game's over, I'm outta here...

HOMER

Wait a minute, you little cheater -- you're not going anywhere until you tell me what a Kwyjibo is!

BART

Kwyjibo? Uh... a big, dumb, balding, North American ape with no chin...

MARGE

And a short temper!

HOMER

Why you little!! (chases Bart)

BART

Uh oh, Kwyjibo on the loose!

From Nick on Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 15:18:23

Haha, yeah man I guess my new PR is 15:16! Whew what an effort! I'm bummed I didn't get to tear it up with all of you out there. It would have been fun to run with everyone from the blog. Good luck at the 10k tommorrow!

From Jon on Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 16:05:52

Spider-Pig, Spider-Pig

Does whatever a Spider-Pig does

Can he swing

from a web?

No he *can't*,

cause he's a *pig*.

Look out!

He is the *Spider-Pig*!

From Jon on Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 17:14:41

Good luck tomorrow- I told Cody and James to beat you, so watch out- they will be gunning for your.

From Superfly on Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 19:57:31

Good luck tomorrow. I'm going to jump in and run with Sasha or Steve O for the last 10 or so. So we will see you guys up there. 29 something? I think you'll do it.

Race: Deseret News 10k (6.2 Miles) 00:30:27, Place overall: 5, Place in age division: 2
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.800.000.006.200.0016.00

Deseret News 10K this morning. James and I drove up last night and stayed with Chad (thanks Chad), who is 5 minutes from the start. Sasha joined us later that evening, and we all had a good visit. I slept pretty well.

I got up a little before 5AM, downed a Clif Bar, and we drove over to the start, arriving at about 5:20AM. I hit the portapot, then we found Cody and warmed up about a mile. Changed into racing flats, but then I had to use the portapot again. This time the line was too long. Fortunately, I ran into Mike, and he showed me the secret portapots of Red Butte Gardens. We ran over there and got more warmup in. 2.5 miles warmup total. I was feeling decent.

The race started a few minutes late, but not too bad. At the dark start line, it was hard to tell who was there, but I just assumed "everyone" was there, and then some. I was hoping for a deep, strong field, and one of my goals was to hook up with a large pack and get dragged to a fast time and competitive finish. I was also expecting there to be quite a few fast high school runners, due to the "high school challenge" or whatever it is. Today, the more bodies out there, the better. I wasn't so much concerned about circuit points or even overall place, but was more interested in sheer competition and working through some the "drive" issues I've had lately in 5K's and 10K's.

As expected, the field got out hard at the start. Teren, Trever, and a Kenyan (Richard Kimeli) got off to a blazing start and vanished into the dark within a few seconds. Another Kenyan (Simon Sawe) headed up a chase group. I was content to start the race in 20th or so and pick my way through the crowd during the first mile. By the time we turned onto Foothill, I was in 10th or so, and tailing a large pack about 15 meters ahead of me. Simon Sawe had broken away from the chase pack and was slowly moving up. I made the move to catch the pack and was absorbed. First mile was 4:38. Fast. Now to hang on.

The second mile was also a strong net downhill, and pace remained torrid. Our pack (which seemed to consist mostly of high school runners) remained mostly intact. Sawe continued pulling away. I noticed that pace was very quick on downhills, but slowed more than I expected on uphills. Hopefully I could use this later on in the race. Second mile was 4:38.

Mile three slowed quite a bit, partially I think to some uphill, but also due to the pack seeming to relax. I just stayed tucked in. One or two people dropped. We now had about 4-5 people. Sawe still way ahead, but also a figure in white (who I thought could be Trevor) had noticeably fallen off the lead pack, and seemed to be coming back. Seeing this, I urged the pack on, saying that we can catch him. Third mile was 4:57. 5K split was very close to my PR. I thought I had it in the bag after two miles, but oh well.

During Mile 4 I started hurting quite a bit and was wondering if I could really finish this thing out. But I think the pack was thinking the same thing, and no one made any moves. Again, I stayed tucked in and let other people do the work and drag me along. Inertia. By the end of the 4th mile, our "pack" was down to just 4 of us (two high schoolers and another old guy like me). Trever still coming back, but very slowly. Sawe catches Trever. Teren and Kimeli are way way ahead. Mile split was 4:53.

During Mile 5, the course turns south and flattens out a bit, but is still a nice gradual downhill. In some ways, this mile was easier than the steeper miles. My world of hurt is ever-expanding, and by the end of Mile 5, I'm making pre-death wimper noises, typical for late in a race. No one else is wimpering, but no one is breaking away either. Stay tucked in, stay with the pack. Mile splits was 4:57.

Last mile. I'm out of gas, but so is everyone else. One strong move would have broken me, but no one makes it. The older guy drops, now it's just me and two high schoolers, one from Oklahoma and one from Utah. The crowd from the parade route are cheering for the Utah guy (Jaren Ward). We make the final turn and head up the hill toward Liberty Park. As expected, it feels like the Matterhorn, even though it's really nothing. Pace slows to what feels like a crawl, and I go with it and relax a little. Save it up for a kick. Despite the slowing, the Oklahoma kid drops. Now it's just me and the Utah kid. My goal for this race was to dig deep, something I have not done lately. Now it is time. But I am also in wimpering pre-death mode, which conflicts with digging deep. The high school kid could have broken me with a strong surge at any time, but instead he suddenly drops the pace with a quarter mile to go. I take advantage, turn the corner and go around him, starting my kick. At the next corner (the final left turn) a guy (a coach?) is yelling at the kid behind me, "Go, go! Only 100 meters left!!" "How much?" the kid yells back. "100 meters!!". The last thing I needed was some fast-twitch young guy smelling the barn and showing me how little speed work I've done, so push myself into overdrive and finally dig into that well of anaerobic sprinting that's been eluding me lately. I finish all-out into the chute, holding off the competition by several seconds. Mile 6 was 5:21 (yuk!). Last 0.22 was 1:03.

My final time was 30:27, and I placed 5th overall. Results are HERE. The guy ahead of us was indeed Trever, and I was pleased to come within 16 seconds of him. He was coming back the whole second half, but very very slowly.

I was very happy with this effort. I wanted to stay with a pack, and was able to do so, and hang on despite pain. Usually everyone else is hurting too, so if you can just stay with them it can come down to a kick and whoever wants it more. It was gratifying seeing each person fall off the pack one-by-one, and was definitely happy to beat all of the prep and pre-college runners. They added a lot to the field and I was glad the race had them.

I initially wanted to break 30:00, but now I realize that goal was based off the course I ran in 2003. This course was a bit different, and I think it was slower. In 2003, there were several people under 28 minutes. This year there was no one even close. Based on my effort and my peer group performance, I think this was my best 5K/10K effort of the year. It is an 18-second PR from my best track time. However, I am not sure how it really equates to a track at sea level, but I'm happy with both the time and the placing.

Mostly, though, I was happy with the tactics, not letting the pack go, and making myself hurt when it mattered. Very good race. Now it's time to get serious about marathon training!

Cooled down with James, Cody, Chad, and Adam.

PM - after work I ran 2 very easy miles to get the blood flowing after an afternoon of sitting. Felt pretty good.

(1120: 93 miles)

Comments
From James on Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 15:46:16

Good race today! I think you ran very well, like usual, and it was good to see you pull into the top 5. Good to visit with you too.

From Superfly on Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 19:43:46

Good race Paul. We missed you guys. I looked around but we didn't stay long after the guys finished the marathon. I gave Sasha the WBR awards and a first aid kit that Jon left in our car.

I wish your race would have started a half hour later and then my wife could have watched the finish and gave me all the details. But by the time she dropped me off at the zoo you guys were done.

Anyways good job. What is next?

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 20:37:11

Paul - good work. I think the course is similar to Peach Tree in terms of times. At least Dennis ran 30:58 in Peach Tree and 30:50 today. Teren did not win, and managed only 29:09. He is in top shape right now. Simon Sawe is a 2:13 marathoner. What he ran today is what he should be running a flat sea level 10 K in. The "old guy" was Iain Hunter, he is a BYU professor of biomechanics, and a 1:49 800 meter runner in his track glory days.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 20:41:37

Clyde, sorry we missed you. We ended up doing a long cool-down to the "point of no return", so we never got back to the finish line afterward.

My next race will be a half marathon, either the Great Salt Lake Half or the Top of Utah Half. Most likely Great Salt Lake.

From Cody on Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 21:48:24

Nice work as always Paul!

I am always impressed with your ability to push so hard and come up with the excellent results. Keep up the training and Oly trials will be held with you in the middle of the action.

From Jon on Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 09:07:33

Nice race. Though I do have to comment that your race description for a 10k is longer than your description for a marathon...

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 10:18:25

I can remember more from a 10K than from a marathon.

From jtshad on Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 12:44:06

Great race and a great time! Congratulations on a strong showing!

From Jon on Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 13:03:21

Whimpering pre-death mode vs digging deep. I'm going to need to see you at the end of a race sometime to hear these noises.

From James on Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 18:58:32

I used to do BYU cross country camp with Iain Hunter, and talked to him yesterday at the fininsh. Iain is a cool guy and a very good runner. He is just getting into marathoning, and will be at St. George for his first time this year. Back when I was fast and Iain was old, he spanked me good in an 800 meter race that was just for fun. He ran it in 1:52 and he was about 32 at the time. I think he is 37 now, and could probably still run close to that time.

From Dave Holt on Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 14:20:52

Great job on your race and it was a lot of run to read about it.

From Michael on Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 19:38:06

Wow, thats really impressive, congrats on such a great race! 30 minutes is amazing to me since thats the time I was running 5Ks when I started running 2last year. Good luck in your next races

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.500.000.000.000.0010.50

Decided that sleeping in would be better for my body than running this morning. So I slept in. In the evening I did some jogging with the dog, then drove out to First Dam and ran up to the River Trail. Met Jon at the climbing lot, and then we went a bit past Spring Hollow and back. Pace was easy. My calves were pretty sore from the race, and my quads were a little sore early in the day, but I didn't feel them at all during the run. Calves felt better as the run went on. Very humid today; felt like I was back in Indiana, except there was no one wearing cutoff t-shirts and swearing at me as I ran by.

(Cascadia: 247)

Comments
From Jon on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 00:15:14

Why do they swear at you? Does your beard help you blend in better with them? If you want, I can wear some cut off jeans and a wife beater next time we run together. Whatever makes you comfortable.

From Chad on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:23:46

Apparently you weren't entirely conscious of the crowd on the parade route during the 10k.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:27:46

There was a parade route?

From Mike K on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 16:06:43

I'm always happy when I can run in my home town without getting hit by cigarettes or beer bottles.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

AM - canal trail loop plus a block with the dog. 7 miles. Quads feel fine, but calves are still a little sore. Better than yesterday though. 7:54/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 263 miles)

Nice writeup in Dyestat.com about the prep race for Des News:

http://dyestat.com/?pg=reg6DeseretNewsJunior10K2007-Deseret-News-10k

PM - 2 easy miles with the dog.

(Adrenaline blue: 265 miles)

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 20:20:27

Paul - I have enabled the HTML in the blog profile, along with the HTML editor.

From Jon on Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:38:12

Paul- did you see the winning time by Runners Corner at NWP? 6:43/mile pace. Was there a reason they were so slow? That record won't stand for long.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 10:57:37

Sasha - cool, thanks.

Jon - Runners Corner took multiple wrong turns early in the race. Or at least that's what I heard through the grapevine.

From Jon on Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 11:36:18

Any idea how much time it added?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 12:22:40

Jon - no idea how much time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.500.000.000.000.0012.50

AM - About 4 miles in Seattle with my college buddy and ex-teammate Pete. I hadn't seen Pete in about 4 or 5 years, so it was really nice to run with him again. We ran around Green Lake, and there were about 200 other runners and walkers out there. 70 degrees. Ahhhh.

PM - 8.5 miles with Dave. We ran a little bit on a nice trail outside of our campground, and then and out-and-back on Leg 32 of the Northwest Passage Relay course (Smugglers Cove road on Whidbey Island). Very rolling hills, but lots of oxygen for me. We averaged about 10:00/mile on the trail, and 7:00/mile on the roads. 70 degrees. Ahhhh.

(1120: 105 miles

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.500.000.000.000.0016.50

Today was running partners by committee. Dave and I headed out from our campground and started running Leg 34 of the NWP course. Exch 33 was right at the campground turnout. After a couple miles a runner caught us. We asked if he wanted company, and went with him. Dave turned off just a little bit later, but I continued with the runner, who was on the Blister Busters team. We got to talking, and it turned out that we had actually talked on the phone a few months ago, as he was interested in getting a quote for course maps for a race he was thinking about starting. Small world! Our pace was around 6:50/mile for the 6-mile leg, which worked out well for me.

The Blister Busters handed off at Exch 34, and I continued running with their guy. He was a little slower, about 8:00/mile, but we had some nice conversation and we were both happy for the company. The leg was about 4 miles long.

Their last runner was a bit faster, and we held 6:50-7:00/mile pace for the final 6.5-mile leg. This guy was a high school geography teacher, so we "talked shop" a little bit, discussing GIS (among other less nerdy things). When we got near the finish line, I backed off and walked it in, so that I wouldn't confuse the volunteers. 16.5 miles for the day, with 4 different running partners. 7:26/mile average pace.

Sea level was nice, and the last part of the course is very beautiful. So much oxygen...The course was very rolling though, and fairly challenging. Did I mention it was 70 degrees? Ahhhh. I look forward to doing the whole course next year.

(1120: 121)


Comments
From Jon on Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 11:38:26

How is it challenging? Just the rolling hills?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 12:22:20

Just the rolling hills. I think this was one of the tougher parts of the course. A lot of it is suppose to be very flat.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.000.000.000.006.00

Morning run with Dave through the mean streets of Bremerton. Hills, hills, and hills. One could become very fit running in that town, as their are no flat stretches at all. Didn't wear GPS, so no idea of pace.

(1120: 127)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

AM - Got in from Washington fairly late, so slept in a bit, then headed out for 7-mile run (canal loop). 7:26/mile pace. My legs are finally feeling recovered from Des News 10K. My left calf in particular had been stiff and sore for several days. I'll try for a good workout tomorrow.

(Adrenaline blue: 272)

PM - 7 easy miles on the River Trail. 7:23/mile average pace.

(Cascadia: 254 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.004.500.000.0014.50

Workout day. I jogged a block with the dog, and then ran toward the Planet Walk, where I ran into Cody. We headed back to the LHS track, where we met James and Logan. The plan for today was 6-8x1000m at CV pace (~5:10/mile pace), with 200m (1-minute) recovery between intervals. I was hoping to get 8 in, but was feeling tired early on, so decided to play it by ear. It turned out my warmup deceived me, and I was actually feeling pretty good and had an excellent workout. Intervals were: 3:12, 3:12, 3:12, 3:12, 3:11, 3:12, 3:07. This converts to 5:07-5:08/mile pace, except for the last one, which is slightly under 5:00/mile pace. I cut it off after 7 reps, because my calves, particularly my left calf, were starting to get pretty sore. I'm still not completely recovered from Des News. But this was the best CV workout I've had since Ogden, and I believe it to be an indicator of increased fitness. It was also really nice having Logan to run with, and that certainly helped me along. Track workouts are always much easier than other people.

Cooled down with James, Cody, and Logan afterward. Cody went home, and we ran up to Jame's place and back to finish it off. My right calf cramped up on way, which is odd. I need to keep a close eye on these calves of mine and hopefully they will get better.

(Burn: 190 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 14:58:31

CV pace?

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 18:32:31

Paul - I have added RSS feed.

From Logan on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 19:08:55

Thanks for letting me run with you this morning. It helps to be pushed and run with someone while doing speed work.

From Jealous on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 23:11:53

Sweet Ticker and rss feed. Homer is a nice touch too...

From Superfly on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 23:17:47

Nice blog. I think the picture of your dog is the best part.

From Lybi on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 23:32:40

Geez! You win the Most Over-The-Top Blog contest. Congratulations. (Is that underwear on your dog's head?) Homer looks like he might've forgotten the whole underwear thing altogether until just now . . .

Nice workout too.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 09:10:38

My dog is not NOT wearing underwear on his head...

From Jon on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 09:41:14

I don't know, Paul, I think Lybi has a point... kinda looks like it.

Paul changes his blog name once again...

And how did you get that countdown to St George on there?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.750.000.000.000.0015.75

AM - Easy run with Cody on the Planet Walk, then some with the dog. 7:41/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 441 miles)

PM - 10 miles with Jon. We ran out on the canal trail to the river trail and then back. The Bear River Range is burning. Lots of fire trucks, gawkers, and excitement. So it goes. 7:07/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 282 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

Today I woke up and decided that I really didn't want to do a Big Workout. Legs were feeling tired, and all I wanted to do was go back to sleep. But I rolled out of bed and hit the road. I figured I would give myself a couple miles of warmup, and then either start a tempo or defer it until tomorrow, and just do a couple easy runs today. I managed to hit 7-minute pace on my second warmup mile, and figured I was feeling good enough to do the tempo. I completed an 8-mile tinman tempo on the Young Ward - ICON loop.

Mile splits were 5:55, 5:52, 5:51, 5:48, 5:51, 5:50, 5:57, 5:53. Woof. Fortunately this loop is pancake-flat. I initially intended to do the Millville Hill Loop, but when I was talking myself out of bagging the workout, this was the compromise. I cooled down for a few miles on the Planet Walk at about 6:45/mile pace, and made a pit stop at the Logan River Golf Course bathroom along the way. This is a great bathroom, because it's actually open at 7AM and there's music playing inside. It should definitely be the centerfold of Jon's "Emergency Toilets of Cache Valley" guidebook.

Also did 4x100m strides on the Planet Walk. They felt like bung, like my shoes were bricks with lead shoelaces. 

Averaged 6:19/mile for the entire 14-mile run. Good workout day, and I'm glad I talked myself into doing it. I'm pretty beat now, and need a few very easy days to recover from the workouts this week.

(1120: 141 miles)

Comments
From Cody on Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 10:38:30

Good Job Paul!

I don't know how we missed each other doing the same loop more or less. I bet you were right behind me the whole way.

From Jon on Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 10:56:10

Is that the one near the highway? If there is music in it, I will need to keep it in mind. However, it is off limits during golfing hours, which is too bad.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:00:39

Jon - it's off of Golf Course Rd, near Park Ave. It was golfing hours today, and no one stopped me!

From Jon on Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:20:02

By the lake?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.000.000.0013.50

AM - Providence Loop, 6.25 miles easy. 7:16/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 447 miles)

PM - out-and-back to First Dam via canal trail (7.25 miles). Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue:  290 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
19.000.000.000.000.0019.00

Long run with Cody today. We drove up Blacksmith Fork and parked at Hardware Ranch. We then ran up Ant Flat, which is a well-graded gravel road that goes all the way to the road that the Ogden Marathon starts on (SR-31?). But we did not go that far, and turned around at 9.5 miles to get 19 miles total. The first half was uphill (about 1300' total gain), but the upshot was running downhill for the last half. 7:30-8:30/mile on the uphill miles, and 6:30-7:00 on the second half. 7:36/mile average pace. I'm tired and quite glad to have this week in the books.

(Cascadia: 273 miles)

Comments
From Cody on Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 13:04:16

Thanks for the run today. Congrats on #2 highest mileage this week (at least for a little while today).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.000.000.000.000.004.00

Nice easy 4-miler on the Planet Walk. Felt pretty good, and just relaxed and enjoyed myself. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline orange: 451 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.000.000.000.000.0015.00

Big Workout this morning. 15 miles total, with 8 miles of Tinman tempo on the Millville Hill Loop and 4x200m barefoot strides in the grass at the LHS rec fields. Warmed up a couple miles, and hit 7:00 on the second mile, which has become the sign that I can start the tempo (ie - my body is finally awake). Miles splits were:

MileSplit
Notes
16:03
Uphill
2
5:56
Rolling
3
6:01
Rolling/Uphill
4
6:34
Steep Uphill
55:53
Rolling
6
5:48
0.75 downhill, 0.25 uphill
7
5:38
Downhill
8
5:38
Flat

I felt pretty good during the tempo, although the big gravel hill on Mile 4 is always a killer. Sub-5:40 pace on the last two miles felt very pleasant, though, conversational even. After the tempo, I held 6:40/mile pace to the LHS fields, were I did 4x200m barefoot strides in 36-38. Just tried to stay nice and relaxed. Finished up by running a few blocks with the dog. 6:18/mile average pace for the entire run. Another workout in the bank.

(1120: 156 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 12:17:16

Nice workout the Oly Trails will be right there for you. Your fitness is definitely at a high level. Question how many miles do you try to average on your tempo runs?

What do you think about doing a tempo run in your long run with three weeks to go in a marathon? I really want to keep fit and try this but at the same time not over-train. Sorry for the questions I'm just trying to get a breakthrough in my next marathon and want to digest as much information from you elite runners.

At times I probably ask too many questions.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 13:55:25

Kory - the length of my tempo runs is in proportion to my total volume. Now that I am at 90+ mpw, my tempos are 8 miles long. I will eventually hit 9 and 10-mile tempos in my peak week before the marathon. When I was at 60-70 mpw, my tempos were more like 5-6 miles.

Note, however, that my "tempos" are not standard "Daniels-style" LT or MP tempos, but are in fact a fair bit lower than my marathon pace. Because of that, I can run that pace for quite a bit longer and more frequently without overtraining. My tempo pace is about a minute slower than 5K pace and is approximately the pace I can hold for 3 hours.

I think doing tempos or progression runs during long runs are a great thing to do. They really teach your body how to burn glycogen better and how to maintain speed and form while fatigued. Usually if I incorporate a tempo or intervals in teh middle of a long run, I will usually drop one of my weekday workouts. That help ward off fatigue and overtraining. Doing one three weeks before your marathon (or a race) will help you.

For you, just maintaining volume and doing these "slow tempos" (MP or a little slower) a couple times a week should give you great benefit. They should feel comfortable and your recovery should be quick. Nothing fancy.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 13:57:37

Typo - in second paragraph, "lower" should be "slower". Big difference in meaning.

From Mik'L on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 20:53:01

Thanks for the advice! What is on your dogs head?

From James on Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 00:26:36

You are a stud! That is one heck of an impressive workout on that course, you don't even slow down that much on those huge hills!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.500.000.000.000.0015.50

AM - ran the TOU course backward and met Cody near Mile 22. From there I joined him to the TOU finish during his Tinman tempo. He was moving pretty good. My mile splits during the tempo were 6:17, 6:16, 6:22, 6:18. I felt pretty good for having just run a hard workout yesterday. Ran home afterward and finished up with the dog. 6:45/mile average pace for the run (7 miles).

(Adrenaline orange: 458 miles)

PM - 8.5-mile run with Jon. Did the canal loop with a little out-and-back to the pipeline trail. We had to stop for a short time a First Dam, as a helicopter was filling up with water at the lake for fighting fires. 7:16/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 298 miles)

Comments
From ashman on Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 20:34:40

Paul, I have to at least try to race the rest of the season. No sense in just rolling over and giving up.

I am not in the greatest shape but I dont care that much. Just gonna run as hard as I can and take no prisoners.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.500.000.000.000.0016.50

AM - 9 miles on the Logan Loop. 7:09/mile average pace.

(1120: 165 miles)

PM - River Trail with Jon. Almost 7.5 miles. 7:53/mile average pace.

(Cascadia: 280 miles

Comments
From Jon on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:38:00

Was the wreck cleaned up, or was there still car parts everywhere?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:12:19

Just some glass, that's it.

From Jon on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 16:08:05

I have a math problem. My watch says we ran for 53:51 yesterday and you said we did 7.3 miles. Did you have the same time? If so, that works out to 7:26/mile average. I don't really care what it was, I just want to know if the watch is doing some fuzzy math.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 19:05:18

Jon - I don't know. 7:26/mile sounds pretty faster for how slow we were crawling up some of that single-track. One of us probably just messed up starting/stopping our watch.

From Jon on Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 10:07:11

I probably didn't get the right time on my watch. Do you know the total time for that run?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.500.004.500.000.0015.00

Big Workout. Warmed up 2 miles, and hit 6:40 pace during the second mile. Time to go. My general route today was the modified North Logan-USU-Boulevard loop. I started with 1 mile of Tinman tempo at 6:22 (3.7% uphill grade). I intended to do 2 miles of tinman, but got pretty wiped by this hill (going from Main Street up to USU Stadium). Recovered for a couple minutes then started a 6x4-minute CV fartlek (2-minute rest). The route was very rolling, and virtually all intervals had pretty equal amounts of uphill and downhill. I figure St. George has hills and the Oly Trials course in NY has tons of hills, so I better hammer the hills in training!

RepTime
Distance
Pace
1 4:010.79 5:04
2 4:01 0.76 5:17
3 4:01 0.76 5:18
4 4:00 0.80 5:02
5 4:00 0.74 5:26
6 4:00 0.77 5:11

Rep #4 was a little fast because it was 3 minutes of downhill and 1 minute of uphill. Rep #5 was slow because...I don't know! It felt terrible though. And then Rep #6 felt great.

But since this was a Big Workout, it didn't end there. After the fartlek I ran easy for about a mile and then did a 2-mile tinman tempo. Splits were 5:54, 5:58. After the tempo, I ended up on the LHS rec fields to do 4x200m barefoot strides in the grass. After the first rep, my feet were FREEZING because the wet grass was so cold. It was about 50 degrees this morning in Logan, by the way. My arms and hands were pretty cold most of the run (but I loved it!). It didn't feel as good on my feet though. I ended up putting my shoes back on and doing the last three 200's on the track. The strides were 36, 36, 36, 35. They are mostly for form and not for killing myself.

Another workout in the can. 15 miles total; 6:23/mile average pace for the run.

I had a dream last night that I was trying to get to the starting line of the Great Salt Lake Half Marathon. I kept wandering around Clearfield and ended up in someone's house, and I was pretty sure the race didn't start in their house. But I couldn't even find my way out of the house, and I only had 15 minutes until the race started to check in. Hopefully that will not happen to me in real life, but the Great Salt Lake Half is usually a nightmare in itself. Maybe this year I will redeem myself there.

(Burn: 205 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 11:12:51

Just don't go into any strange houses in Clearfield, not even if you need to use the bathroom...

From Mike K on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 14:27:44

Bob and I had a terrible GSL 1/2 a few years ago. We hit a cat while driving around Clearfield looking for the race. That's a pretty bad omen before a race.

From Logan on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 16:29:06

I was thinking of coming up to Logan this weekend for a longer run if you and some of the other guys are up for it. Let me know.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 19:03:15

Logan, I sent you an email about Saturday.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - easy 5 miles on Planet Walk. Bumped into Cody and ran with him for awhile. Legs tired from yesterday, but that's what easy days are for. 8:14/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 463 miles)

PM - easy 8 miles to First Dam and back. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 306 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 15:43:25

I will see you and Cody tomorrow. Katey is checking my Yahoo account to see what time and where to meet because Yahoo is blocked through the school district. I am not able to look up that e-mail.

From wheakory on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 00:04:28

Paul on your long runs do you take gels? Imagine you take water with you. Personally on a 20 mile run I usually only take one gel, and water. Very impressive speed work and recovery run to follow-up th e next day.

I'm so impressed by your speed, and I hope I can get there before I start getting too old (36 years old now).

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 11:36:01

Kory - I take gels once in a while, but not often. I usually don't think about it, although it probably would be good for me. If it's hot, I'll take water with me, but a lot of times I'll just do the whole run without water, or maybe stop by a park drinking fountain or something. It's usually in the 50s in Logan early in the morning, so dehydration isn't a big issue.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
18.502.000.000.000.0020.50

Ran around the block with the dog, and then drove up to Hollow Rd with Logan and Cody. We ran the TOU course in reverse - 10 miles up (just past the park in Blacksmith Fork), and 10 miles down. At first we faced a nasty head wind and were averaging about 7:20/mile on the uphill, which I was actually pretty happy with, all things considered. The canyon wind died down (plus we picked it up), and our next four miles before the turnaround were averaging just under 7:00/mile pace.

On the second (downhill) half, things turned into a progression run. We fooled around with 6:30s then 6:15s. Around mile 16 things got even more interesting, as the canyon wind picked up and now gave us a nice tail wind. It's like in the movie Die Hard: "Now I have a tail wind!" er... machine gun, whatever. We did a 6:07 and then a 5:54 as we came out of the canyon. I could tell Logan and I were feeding off each other a bit and simultaneously pushing the pace. We hit 5:51 as we entered Hollow Rd. Then things got crazy for some reason on Hollow Rd. Mile 19 was 5:24. Mile 20 was 5:08. This last mile is pretty much flat, plus the tailwind was gone by then, so I was pretty happy to hit that kind of split at the end of a long run and still feel in control. I wouldn't say that pace was conversational or anything (although Logan and I would grunt something to each other occasionally), but it didn't feel faster than threshold pace either. This is good, as I hope to hit sub-1:09 at Great Salt Lake Half next Saturday. We'll see.

6:38/mile average pace for the entire run. 

99.5 miles for the week. I'm not ready for 100 yet. Not for a couple more weeks.

(1120: 185 miles)

Comments
From Superfly on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:09:06

Nice up and back workout. You'll have to get down here one of these weeks before STGM and we'll do some miles on the course.

From Dave Holt on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 16:07:26

Thanks for the comment Paul. I love reading your workouts, they are so intense. One of my goals is, as I continue to learn how to run, to be incorporate this type of quality into my own schedule.

From Logan on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 16:39:35

It was nice pushing the last few miles with you. I promise I won't go out for another 2 miles tonight to hit 100!

From James on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 19:36:07

Looks like Logan got ahold of you guys afterall. Hey, be glad that I wasn't there this morning because you would have been pushing sub 5:00 in that last mile! Good running this week. Let's hook up this next week before I leave the Valley. I haven't got my Paul fix for a while anyways, and I feel left out.

From Cody on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 23:28:47

Nice Job as always Paul. I am glad that Logan was there to push you the last 3 miles. Man watch out when the two of you get into a race together. Crazy fast. Thanks again for pulling me along for a good workout. You are the man. No matter what you tell yourself, you are ready for 100+ mile weeks. Redemption time at the GSL Half is near!

From Jon on Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 01:47:52

Man, if I can be close to 100 mile weeks, then you could be doing 120, if you wanted...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Scheduled day off. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.000.000.000.000.0016.00

AM - easy 9 miles. Did the Landfill Loop with Cody, and then some on my own and with the dog. 7:18/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 315 miles)

PM - easy 7 miles on the River Trail with Dan, Jon, and Cody. Nice evening. 7:45/mile pace.

(Cascadia: 287 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 17:31:09

My work schedule will not allow me to come up tomorrow morning to do some interval work. School is getting really busy right now.

From wheakory on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 22:52:20

Nice runs Paul. I wish I could spend a couple of weeks up there to run with you guys. How many miles do you usually run with your dog.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 22:58:27

Kory - my dog is a lazy sack of flesh. I usually just do about a mile a day with him, to keep him from getting too fat.

From Jon on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 23:58:01

But at least Gill looks good with underwear on his head...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.500.005.000.000.0015.50

Big Workout today. I warmed up about 2 miles to the end of the Planet Walk, and then did a 2-mile tinman tempo to the LHS track. I was a bit sluggish on the tempo, and averaged around 6:10/mile.

On the track I did 5x1600m @ LT pace, with 200m rest.

Rep Split
1 5:09
2 5:10
3 5:10
4 5:11
5 5:07

 

I was pretty happy with these, and they all felt fairly smooth. It's pretty intimidating to think about running an entire half marathon at this pace, but things always seem easier during races. Race-day magic, right? The last time I did this workout was during my Ogden Marathon taper. My splits during that workout were 5:18, 5:18, 5:19, 5:11, 5:11, and recovery intervals were twice as long (400m). Plus I was in the middle of a taper. Taking all that into account, I think I have gained significant fitness since Ogden.

After my intervals, I worked with Cody during his last interval and hit 5:50, which is my tinman tempo pace. Cody and I "cooled down" to his house afterward, at about 6:25/mile pace. After I dropped Cody off, I continued home and resumed tinman pace (5:55-6:00/mile) for the next 1.5 miles or so. Finished out with a mile with the dog.

15.5 miles for the entire workout. I managed to stay ahead of the 6-minute guy. 5:59/mile average pace for the entire run.

(Burn: 221)

 

 

Comments
From Superfly on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 10:44:49

Great times. You've got to be strong to do miles with only a 200 rest. I struggle with a 800 and a 400 rest. Sometimes I read speed workouts by you fast guys and feel sore just reading about it. "We're not worthy"!

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 16:12:08

Clyde - don't sell yourself short. Frankly, I look at your total training volume sometimes and my head spins. Not to mention the heat...

In general, I try to keep the recovery time in proportion to the purpose of the workout. For short LT intervals (ie - 1 mile), the recovery period needs to be pretty short too in order to keep my body in the "LT Zone" longer and get the most return for the workout. Plus, this forces me to actually run LT pace (HMP) and not go crazy.

From Jon on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 16:32:40

Notice that he admits that he is more likely to go crazy fast than to go too slow. That is why he is aiming for OT and I am aiming for my couch...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.250.000.000.000.0014.25

AM - easy 8-mile run with Cody. Took the Planet Walk to the end and crossed the highway to Blackhawk, and then into Providence and back to Logan via the TOU course. 7:25/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 323 miles)

PM - easy 6-mile run with James and Cody. If I believed there was such a thing as "junk miles", today would certainly qualify.

(Adrenaline orange: 469 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 15:10:08

Is your goal a 1:09 for this weekend?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 15:38:11

Jon - yes, 1:09 would be fantastic. 1:08 would be double-plus fantastic.

From Jon on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 15:59:26

1:10- acceptable?

1:11- disappointing?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 16:01:53

1:10 - very good

1:11 - acceptable

1:12 - disappointing

From Jon on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 10:21:28

I'm expecting you'll pull a 1:05 out of your hat! Good luck and go kick some butt.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.250.000.000.000.0011.25

Ran the North Logan-USU Loop with Cody this morning. We kept the pace honest on the rolling hills, and threw in 6x100m strides as well. 6:55/mile average pace.

(1120: 196 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 09:28:55

Good luck with your race this weekend. I have a good feeling that you will do real well. You have trained hard.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.000.000.000.006.00

Easy run on landfill loop. 7:18/mile average pace. Tomorrow should be interesting.

(Adrenaline orange: 475 miles)

Comments
From Dave Holt on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 09:57:10

Good luck!

From James on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 11:48:27

Go win that thing tomorrow!

I'll be in Logan tomorrow to run with the guys, so we can go get your woodchips after you get back.

Race: Great Salt Lake Half Marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:10:22, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.400.0013.100.000.0019.50

Great Salt Lake Half Marathon today. I've been gearing up for this race for a while. Not because I love it, but because I hate the course so much. It is painfully flat and straight, smells bad, and has a tendency to chew me up and spit me out. So I felt like I had something to prove on this course, and I knew any time I put up would be 100% earned. It would also give me a good benchmark for my chance of OTQ at St. George. I figured sub-1:10 is worth an "A" qualifier at St. George. My best time on this course are 1:14:00, from 2004.

I drove one hour to the start, picked up my packet, and warmed up 2 miles by myself. I bumped into Sasha before my warmup, and he mentioned that Teren Jameson was here. I decided that if he went out under control, I would try to hang with him.

Temperature was about 70 degrees, with overcast skies. Very little wind at the start line. So pretty decent conditions for an August race along the Wasatch Front. I'd prefer 20 degrees cooler, but I'll take it.

At start, I spotted plenty of strong competition. If my somewhat risky plan of starting with Teren went haywire, Joe, Dennis, and Sasha would be there to eat me up. The race started close to on time. Teren and another guy who I didn't know got out hard, and after a moment of indecisiveness (do I really want to do this??) I got on their heels. Pace definitely felt harder than what I was used to, but not out of control. During races, I set up my Garmin to just show total time and lap time, and have auto mile splits taken for me, so I only receive pace feedback once per mile (if I kept my usual settings, it would distract me to no end). I would only be using my Garmin for splits, as the GSL mile markers are notoriously bad. First mile split was 4:50. Yikes! I hung in there behind Teren and the other guy (who turned out to be Patrick Smyth, a current Notre Dame runner), and waited to see if they would settle down. Second mile was 5:03. Third mile was 5:07. Doing some mental math, I realized I had just run a 15:35 5K on a pancake-flat course at elevation, just barely slower than my Draper Days time. Stupid. At this point, I knew that: 1) I certainly couldn't hold this pace; 2) Teren and Patrick were NOT slowing down.

I let them go after Mile 3 and tried to settle into my race. My goal was to hit 5:15 pace and establish a good rhythm, and hopefully finish with a 1:09 or under. To an extent, I was successful in doing this over the next 5 miles. Mile 4 was 5:16. Mile 5 was 5:11. Mile 6 was 5:20 (approx 10K split of 32:00). Mile 7 was 5:16. Mile 8 was 5:16. So after 8 miles I was still on pace to run a low 1:08. Unfortunately, I still had 5 miles left. Plus, the stench of the Great Salt Lake was starting to get to me. And I was getting very sick of the causeway.

Mile 9 slowed to 5:25. I was okay with this. 5:25's the rest of the way would still yield a killer time. Unfortunately, the causeway started turning southwest, and we picked up a crosswind, that soon turned into a headwind. Fatigue + headwind = slower running. Mile 10 was 5:36. Mile 11 was 5:43. Teren had dropped Patrick some time back and had gapped him. Meanwhile, no one seemed to be approaching me from behind. I figured everyone else was hating the wind as much as me, so I wasn't overly concerned.

I found myself actually wanting to get on the island and hit the uphills, just to get some variety and more importantly to get out of the accursed wind! The course finally entered the Antelope Island at the 11.5 mile mark, and I proceeded to climb the first little hill. It actually felt pretty good, helped by the fact that I no longer had a headwind during the climb. Mile 12 was 5:38. There would be no heroics here. Just finish the darn race. The last mile featured a pretty big climb (into the headwind) followed by the a nice decent. The climb just killed and I felt like I had slowed to a crawl. But just over a half mile left! I hit the downhill and worked it well. Mile 13 was 5:39. The course made one final turn, and then the finish chute! Hurrah! I was glad for that one to be over. My final time was 1:10:22.

Teren won with an absurd 1:07-something. Patrick was 1:30 ahead of me with 1:08:50-ish. Joe and Dennis were about 3 minutes behind me with 1:13:30-ish.

My Garmin measured 13.19 miles. I'm prone to believe this could be GPS error, but if several other people measured long as well, I may be prone to believe the course was a little long. But for now, I'll assume it was legit.

Cooled down 4 miles afterward.

Despite missing my goal of breaking 1:10, I felt pretty good about the race afterward. I think without the headwind, I would have actually made my goal, despite running stupid the first three miles. But I even felt pretty good about running stupid. I would like to be as fast as Teren someday, and running with him for three miles showed me what that was like, and the amount of work it would take to reach that level. But I see no reason why I can't run at that level someday. Work work work. Keep dreaming, keep striving.

And frankly it was exciting to average 5:00/mile for the first quarter of a half marathon...and still survive to finish decent. If I could run the race all over again, knowing how everyone finished, I probably would have run it the same way. Today was a good learning and physical experience. My time, even with dying off a bit and the headwind, showed me I am still on track for at least a "B" qualifier at St. George. I am about to enter my last training cycle before St. George, and it will feature some 100-mile weeks, and oodles of MP and LT running, all uninterrupted by races. (I will run some more races, but only as workouts, no tapering). Lots of hard work ahead; the taper is still long ways off!

(1120: 198 miles)


Comments
From Jon on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 16:40:04

Come on, come on, tell us what place you got... and your time.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 17:15:20

Ha ha ha. I deliberately did that just to irk the folks sitting at their computers hitting the "Refresh" button. I'm such a jerk.

From Lybi on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 18:03:29

But a very fast, gutsy jerk. Great job, Paul!

From Jon on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 18:04:28

I could tell that is what you were doing.

To quote you earlier this week: 1:10- very good, 1:11- acceptable. So in your own words, you were closer to very good. Great race, especially with your killer start (at least it would have killed me!)- keep up the good work!

From Jon on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 18:09:37

By the way, why didn't you let the rest of us help out with the wood chipping fun?

From Mike K on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 18:15:58

I'd judge your race by how you performed against Joe, Denis, and Sasha. 1:10 is a very solid performance before St. George, especially with the high volume of training. BTW, Pat ran sub 13:50 this year and was an All American in XC and Track (former Judge athlete).

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 18:56:51

Jon - Because James' truck only fits a couple people! You can come over and white-wash my fence though!

Mike - I was very pleased with how I placed against my competition. I think I am on the right track. I talked to Pat a little bit after the race, and he's a really nice guy. Today was his first half marathon, not a bad debut.

From ashman on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 19:57:43

World Class effort and attitude Paul. It's ok to run like that once in a while, it shows real sisu man. Hang in there you will get that 2:20 and some change one day.

From James on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 19:58:57

I told you Pat was faster than you thought,and Mike and Bob would know. I think you ran awesome as usual, and I also think you are closer to that A qualifier than you think or than Sasha's race predictor says.

Good luck with the yard, let me know if you need any more help.

From ashman on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 20:00:12

World Class effort and attitude Paul. It's ok to run like that once in a while, it shows real sisu man. Hang in there you will get that 2:20 and some change one day.

From Logan on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 21:31:55

Great race today Paul. I was hoping the wind didn't blow too much. I'm glad that it wasn't bad. Tear it up the next couple weeks and then the taper you talk about will be nice. You are ready to rock and roll at St. George.

From Jon on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 23:20:58

Wait, isn't Rock and Roll marathon in Arizona? Or do you mean the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland? :)

From Chris Rogers on Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 00:26:58

Paul--great race. I concur with Mike's thoughts... running a 1:10 with the volume you've been doing AND the insanely fast start gives you a pretty good indicator that you're in great shape at the moment. As you said--get some more LT and M pace runs in before SGM and you'll hit the taper flying.

From Brent on Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 11:03:36

Great race on a stinker course, way to go. If bloggers have not run this race, it is a real tough course to hold your pace accross the long, long stretch. Great, Great race.

From Superfly on Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 20:09:58

Good job Paul. I knew you'd run a great race.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 12:33:31

Paul, nice job. I love your attitude about your running. The last few lines really hit me. Being in the same stretch as you - training wise, the mileage, trying to get harder runs (but not as hard as yours!) - but I find myself in a little mental funk right now. Whereas, you are positive and ready to go. I love it!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.500.000.000.000.004.50

Easy shake-out run today. Ran around the block with the dog and then did the Planet Walk. Didn't wear watch. I felt little better than I thought I would today, considering the race yesterday. My calves are not very sore, a good indicator for wearing flats at St. George. Both adductors are fairly sore, which I've never had before. But nothing is today bad, and today was an enjoyable, slow run.

(1120: 202 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.000.000.000.000.0015.00

AM - easy 7 miles on canal trail loop. Groin in still very sore from yard work. 7:48/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline orange: 482 miles)

I'm heading out to Montrose, CO for meetings later this morning, so will be running from there through Thursday. This time I will have my car, so will probably check out Black Canyon of the Gunnison Natl Park and see if there are any worthwhile trails to run on.

PM - stopped at Sasha's house in Provo on my trip south. We ran about 8 miles on the river trail. Today was my first time ever in Provo. I always drive by on I-15, but have never actually entered the town. Rough place.

(1120: 210 miles)

I finally arrived in Montrose at 9PM. What a long drive. Early meeting tomorrow, but I should have time for a few miles before, and then a good quality run in the evening. Lots of miles this week.

Comments
From Jon on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:17:58

Have fun out there- it's a pretty canyon.

So both you and Cody (San Fran) are gone this week. Dan and I are all alone.

From Nick on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 23:45:05

That place is awesome. If nothing else, there are some roads that visitors use to tour the park which are definitely runable. I backpacked into that canyon a year or two ago, and it was really cool. The hike (more of a controlled fall) was ridiculous, but fun. A run out there should be really nice!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.000.000.000.000.0015.00

AM - easy 4 miles in Montrose. 7:27/mile average pace. Nice, cool morning.

(Triax: 4 miles)

PM - 11 miles at Black Canyon National Park. I was disappointed when I got there to find that none of the trails are over 2 miles long, so I mostly stayed on the scenic driving route...er...scenic running route. The world looks better from foot anyway. I did diverge on a few short trails though. Definitely a beautiful area. Altitude ranged from 7800 to 8300 ft and the road was very rolling and challenging. I was surprised to hold sub-7's on most of the uphills, despite the altitude. Mostly I relaxed on the downhills. 6:44/mile average pace for the run.

Adductors are feeling much better today, almost normal. I would say I'm 95% recovered from the race. I'll try a big workout tomorrow. I've eyeballed a potential route in the National Park that could be a lung-buster. 

(Cascadia: 298 miles)

Comments
From Cody on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 13:57:30

I hope you get some fun running done out there. By the way, good racing saturday. I am impressed.

From Jon on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 09:25:41

Lung-buster = fun

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.500.000.000.000.0016.50

I got up early this morning and drove north to Gunnison Gorge National Conservation Area. It took awhile to get to the place I wanted, as nothing seemed to be clearly marked. On the other hand, I didn't see a single other person the entire run, so that was an upshot. I parked my car just off the main road, then started running up Dinosaur Rd, which was a 4x4 jeep trail through badlands. My Forester definitely wouldn't have made it, and my legs had some problems too, as I had to walk a lot of the uphills. Finally I got to the ridge and ran south on the ridgeline trail. Sweet views of the gorge, but the single-track proved to be very tough too, to the point of walking some uphills again. Once I got to a real trailhead, I looked at a more detailed map and realized that I wanted to be a different trail, so then I backtracked north to where I started on the single-track, and then kept going north a couple more miles on the ridge trail until I got to the Ute Trail trailhead. This was where I wanted to be.

Once on the Ute trail, I descended from about 6300 ft down to the Gunnison River at 5300 ft over a little less than 4 miles. I finally got the river just as it was time to turn around. It was beautiful and well worth the effort. It was getting pretty warm by this point and I had gone through half my water, so I jumped in the ice-cold river to cool off and get all my clothes good and soaked for the return trip up out of the gorge. I could have stayed there on that beach all day, but I had things to do. Like write this blog. And work.

Running out of the gorge wasn't too bad, and the gradient in most stretches was quite manageable and even fun for running. I managed to average sub-9:00 out of the gorge and got a good workout in doing so. Not much walking here, just a little. Once I was on top of the ridge, I got on Ute Road and descended down about 2.5 miles out of the NCA. Pretty steep downhill here, and I was doing about 7-minute pace. Finally I got to the "main" road and had to run about 1.5 miles south back to my car at Dinosaur Road. Averaged about 6:15/mile pace on this last rolling gravel section. It was a good run, but I'm glad to be done. I'm beat. 9:22/mile average pace for the entire run.

Kind of a quasi Big Workout today. A lot of distance and a fair amount of effort, but not as controlled and formal as my normal workouts. That's probably a good thing, as it provides a mental break. I'm using this week mainly to build mileage, and most of my speed focus is being put on my Big Workout this Saturday.

(Cascadia: 314 miles)

Comments
From Mik'L on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 13:34:28

It's nice to know that even you elite guys have to walk sometimes. Granted the terrain was tough and the miles were long, but still nice to know.

From Jon on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 14:45:17

You must have an easy day of work there to have that much time for a run.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 14:53:50

...and a nap. I had a meeting yesterday and a meeting tomorrow.

From ashman on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 14:56:59

Thanks , Paul I might run with you guys afterall and have some company. Speaking of a nap it's time for mine.

From Jon on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 15:01:55

So today was your day off, hence your free time... rough life.

Hey, what do you think your time will be Sat?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 15:03:38

yawn. I just woke up. Time to brew a pot of hotel room coffee and actually get some work done. Maybe put on a shirt too. Nah.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 15:13:09

Jon - let's see, I aim to get in a total of 7 miles at 5:20 pace (broken up into 2 intervals) and then a total 5 miles at 5:10 pace (broken up between 3 intervals). Between the five intervals, I will probably get about a mile worth of "rest" at about 6:30 pace. If there is any remainder, I will do 5:10 pace (ie - the last 0.1 miles). That adds up to 1:10:30 if I execute the workout properly.

From Jon on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 17:21:41

Hmm... so you may very well win the race. Show off (ok, not really, but the rest of us are jealous).

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 17:38:22

I think Logan will still win by at least a minute.

From Jon on Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 10:02:26

There goes my streak of victories in this race...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.250.000.000.000.0016.25

AM - did a nice 12-mile loop on the west side of Montrose. Felt pretty good. I found out last night that my morning meeting is canceled, so I am heading back a little early. That will be nice. 6:56/mile average pace.

(Triax: 16 miles)

PM - got home from my trip and did the Planet Walk to shake out my legs. I didn't wear a watch, but my legs felt fresh and the pace felt snappy, maybe 6:20-6:30 range. Odd.

(Adrenaline orange: 486 miles -- retired)

Comments
From wheakory on Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 16:54:58

Nice easy run for you. Kind of nice that you can head home early, because it's always nice to go home.

If it's still alright I would like to stay at your place for the Top of Utah Marathon. I don't know how well I'll do since I'll be pushing the Pocatello Marathon on September 1st real hard. But I hope I can respond with a decent time.

I really do appreciate your offer your a very kind person. I might decide to be conservative at the Pocatello Marathon than push TOU hard.

I'm thinking I should be in town by 5pm on that Friday to pick-up the packet and

eat somewhere.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 21:04:09

Kory, that sounds good. I'll talk to the other Logan guys. Maybe we'll have some sort dinner Friday night for whoever is in town.

From Aaron on Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 21:34:26

I'm loving this nap thing. Found a kind of shelf at the office where I can curl up and go out for 20-30 minutes in the early PM. It's amazing how much better the legs feel when I wake up.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 21:58:30

Naps are key. I seriously think they are what is keeping me fresh through these 100-mile weeks.

From Jon on Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 23:36:52

Is this a George Costanza kind of office shelf? Ticking bombs?

From Aaron on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 18:00:21

Something like it, but you know, this is real life: my boss wouldn't budge on the adjustable hats.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.750.000.000.000.0015.75

AM - Logan Loop, 8 miles easy, plus a block with the dog. It is chilly here this morning, cold enough for long sleeves. 7:13/mile average pace.

(1120: 218 miles)

PM - River Trail with Jon, to Spring Hollow and back. Easy pace, no watch.

(Cascadia: 321 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 16:55:58

I am coming up to Logan tonight. I need to meet up with you guys to get a good warm-up in. I think I am going to go and get on the bus around 5:45 AM. Hopefully your trip went well.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 17:50:28

Logan, I'll see you at the busing area or the start. I am running from my house to the buses, so won't be doing much more warmup beyond that. I'll probably try to get on a 6AM bus or so.

From Jon on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 23:35:14

Every time we run together you have posted by the time I get home (with your computer outside your house)- I tried to post today while you were still driving home, but the blog was down. When I finally saw it up, you had just posted. Figures.

Race: Top of Utah Half Marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:09:33, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.507.005.500.000.0021.00

Today was an interesting day. I did a Big Workout within the Top of Utah Half Marathon. I've been wanting to run the TOU Half for awhile, but figured I needed a workout more than an all-out race, so I decided to combine the two. The other idea was to add "race day magic" to a workout, which would make the workout a lot more fun and easier to complete. My Big Workout today was:

4 miles @ MP (2 minutes recovery)

3 miles @ MP (2 minutes recovery)

2 miles @ LT (1 minute recovery)

2 miles @ LT (1 minute recovery)

1 mile @ LT

The course layout for the TOU Half is a good one. The first 7 miles or so are a gentle downhill in the canyon. The next 3 miles flatten out a bit, but are still a gentle (but imperceptible) downhill. There is a relatively long uphill through Millville from Mile 11 to 12 or so, and then gentle downhill to the finish in Providence.

Weather was absolutely perfect. I mean perfect. 50 degrees at the start line, with promise of a tail wind coming out of the canyon. If the weather is remotely like this for the TOU Marathon, people will qualify.

To warm up, I ran from my house to the busing area (about 1.75 miles). We bused up to the start line up Blacksmith Fork, and I did some more jogging and got my porta-pot stops in. Ready to go. They started the race right on time.

My workout/race went as follows:

Workout Segment
Mile
Split
Comments
4-mile @ MP
1 5:13 out a bit fast
4-mile @ MP 2 5:16 settled in
4-mile @ MP 3 5:15
4-mile @ MP 4 5:16
2-minute recovery
0.35 5:52/mile pace
faster than expected
3-mile @ MP 1 5:10 starting to get tailwind
3-mile @ MP 2 5:09 this is fun
3-mile @ MP 3 5:10 tremendous fun
2-minute recovery 0.33 6:00/mile pace

2-mile @ LT
1 5:05 Hollow Rd
2-mile @ LT 2 5:09 Hollow Rd/Hwy 165
1-minute recovery
0.16 6:08/mile pace

2-mile @ LT 1 5:09 Hwy 165
2-mile @ LT 2 5:37
Millville; uphill; yuk!
1-minute recovery
0.23 6:15/mile pace
1:25 rest
1-mile @ LT
1
5:00
nice downhill

The first 10 miles of the workout/race was quite a bit of fun, and I felt fantastic. The cool morning and downhill start really made things fast, and then picking up the tailwind on my second MP interval made it feel like some sort of weird video game. 5:10 was effortless in those conditions. I was having a ball, and the MP sets went great. The first LT 2-mile interval went very well, and I held a good pace. The second LT 2-miler was a bit harder, mostly because of the long uphill through Millville. This was the only point during the workout where I felt like I was struggling. By the end of the uphill, I managed to find a good rhythm, and hit 5:25/mile pace, but the first half of that mile was a lot slower. I knew I had a downhill mile to end the workout/race with, and I was looking forward to it. I waited to the race's official 12-mile mark to start my last interval, which gave me a little bit extra rest. I ended up running the last 1.1 at LT to compensate, and was happy to hit 5:00 pace for it.

So that was my workout. The race itself was interesting too. I was a bit ahead of Logan during the first 4-mile MP interval, but I could hear him, so I figured he was just 10 meters behind or so. When I eased up for my 2-minute recovery, Logan went by, and looked as though he wasn't working at all. I was inwardly cheering for all my friends to hit big PR's, so I was happy to see him zoom by. Logan pulled away a bit on my recovery, but then when I started my next interval I really didn't close on him at all, so I knew he must be doing 5:10's. I hoped that everyone else was enjoying the tailwind as much as Logan and I.

This trend continued for the rest of the race, until Logan's fatal wrong turn: he would pull away on my recoveries, and I would gain nothing on the intervals. In fact, I think he was pulling away on the intervals as well. By Mile 10, I was so far ahead of my own schedule, that I thought breaking 1:10 would be probable, and Logan was a good minute ahead. He clearly had 1:08 in the bag. The left turn into Millville was around Mile 11. Logan was so far ahead of me that I didn't see him miss it, but did see him up around Main St. I was a little confused, as there was no volunteer at the corner, but I was pretty sure the turn was at 100 W (it is for the marathon). Plus the sun was directly in my eyes, so I couldn't see the course markings. I actually slowed down a bit and looked behind me as I entered the intersection, and then saw the marking to turn. Logan was too far away to yell at, plus I was breathing too hard to yell, or talk for that matter. And I sure couldn't catch him. I figured he would turn at Main St., which would give him the same distance, and all would be good. Alas, this was not the case. I finished the race, and started asking everyone where the winner was. I seriously thought he was just that far ahead of me. Everyone looked at me as though I was hallucinating. "You're the winner, you idiot." I was pretty bummed, because Logan had such a sweet PR going.

I ended up about 10 seconds off my own PR, which I was quite happy with. Had I tapered, worn flats, and raced all-out, I think sub-1:08 would have been in the works. But that was not the goal today. Jon, Cody, and Walter all got sweet PR's, and I was really stoked for them. Big things coming at TOU and St. George for all those guys.

Cooled down with the guys afterward, sat around for awards (didn't win anything in the prize drawing, and then ran home. 21 miles total for the day, capping off a 104-mile week, my first 100-mile week since 2004, and my most mileage in a week ever. 6 more weeks until St. George. 4 weeks of good, hard, quality training. Every week of training gives further opportunity to grow stronger and get faster.

(Burn: 242 miles)

Comments
From James in Sunny AZ on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 16:37:08

Congrats on the great big workout! Sounds like things are looking good for the OT qualifier.

From Cody on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 17:32:31

Nice Race/Workout. Way to stick to your workout when it would have been "easier" to just race with Logan. It will pay off for you. Good job on getting so many quality miles in this week, traveling and all.

From Chad on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 18:22:45

I don't usually offer people congratulations on their workouts, but congratulations, Paul! Actually, I wish you would have left out the part about this being just a workout. To run 1:09 for the half in a "workout" is insane. Frankly, it hurts my feelings.

You are mad fit and set to do amazing things at STGM. Great job.

From ashman on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 18:49:32

Nice run Paul! Frankly, I'm kinda jealous.

From Jon on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 20:43:45

Nice workout. But are you sure you are going to be able to pace me at TOU, or will 6:00 pace be too slow? I don't want you suddenly popping off some 5:00 miles mid-marathon!

You'll do great at SGM!

From Cody on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 20:45:34

He can do 6's in his sleep. You had better watch out.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 20:53:13

Thanks guys. Today was fun. The real story of the day though was breakout races by Jon and Cody. Very impressive the more I look at it, as both of your performances equate to sub-2:40 on the TOU marathon course. Jon is looking at something in the 2:35 range, so we better adjust our pacing plans a little bit. Cody is looking at something in the 2:39 range on the TOU course, which equates to 2:35 range on the St. George course. Better gear up for fast marathons guys.

From Jon on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 22:47:03

http://www.umnh.utah.edu/pageview.aspx?menu=4298&id=16126

Is that you in the picture?

From Michelle on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 00:11:41

congratulations on the great workout (especially the fast pace on the flat miles), and thanks for the description. You are inspiring!

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 11:53:23

Jon - the people in the photo are: Demetrio Jr., Sasha, Albert Wint, and myself. I've never seen that; good find.

From Superfly on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 18:20:16

Great run Paul. Your training run = everyone else's PR dreams. I'm gearing up to have a celebrity staying at my house.

From Jon on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 18:29:50

I recognized Sasha and you, but didn't know the other two.

From James on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 01:20:23

You are the man!

From Clay on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 15:25:32

Awesome race Paul and congrats on the win... You had an incrediable week of training, a true inspiration!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 15:58:27

Paul - those assumptions for Jon and Cody work if we get the tail wind in the canyon again. Otherwise, go by effort. In fact, always go by effort regardless, and keep adjusting the goal through the race.

Jon - Paul might see $1000 ahead of him (e.g Hobie is not there, and I start struggling), smell the blood and go after it, so be prepared :-)

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 16:07:42

Sasha - very true about the tailwind. However, everyone will also have a few more weeks of good training, plus a quality taper. Take out the tailwind, and they might break even or close. Keep the tailwind and watch out! The other thing is that the tailwind affected 3 or 4 miles of the race, a small fraction.

Regarding TOU competition, I talked to the race director when getting my number the other day and asked who was in. Hobie has indeed entered (very recently). He also mentioned a Kenyan that wanted to run, but Kenyans often do not go through with it, so probably just 50-50 on that. So there is a chance for some easy money, but it's doubtful.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.500.000.000.000.004.50

Planet Walk plus a block with the dog, easy. No watch. Legs feel okay after yesterday. No soreness, but they are tired.

(Adrenaline blue: 327 miles)

I thought yesterday was an outstanding performance by bloggers in the half marathon. By my count, we had 2 people under 1:10, 10 people under 1:20, 16 people under 1:30, and 19 people under 1:40. Not to mention the PC marathoners. I have probably missed some performances in there. Now can you imagine if we get everyone to run the same half marathon the same day? The race director's head will spin, wondering how their race got so fast!

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 17:10:58

I agree the FRBs (Fast Running Bloggers) are becoming quite the force to rekon with. Not sure any other group can compete with the depth of the blog.

From Cody on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 18:06:55

Check out your mug in HJ News - Nice story too.

http://hjnews.townnews.com/articles/2007/08/26/sports/sports03.txt

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 18:11:11

I definitely need a haircut.

From Nick on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 19:50:53

Dude, the guy who beat you by one place in your 5k PR is my coach! Whaaaat??? Definitely one of the crazier things I have ever seen!

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 19:57:29

Nick - Jeff Boele is your coach?? We both PR'ed at the North Central last chance meet. I cooled down with him afterward and chatted for awhile. Seemed like a super-nice guy.

From Nick on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 20:09:58

That is so cool! Yeah, he is an awesome guy and a great coach. Man, the running world is so small. I'll have to tell him about this. He has helped my training out a ton and really has me prepped for the time trial for CU. Way too cool!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.000.000.000.000.0016.00

AM - ran the canal loop (6.5 miles) with Seth Wold and Vance Twitchell. The USU guys took it easy on me. 7:17/mile average pace. Did a mile with the dog afterward.

(1120: 226 miles)

PM - River Trail (8.5 miles) with Jon, Cody, and Dan. 7:59/mile average pace.

(Cascadia: 330 miles)

Comments
From Cody on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 10:40:49

Google 1 took third in the corporate division at Hood to Coast.

http://www.hoodtocoast.com/results.php

From Jon on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 14:47:26

Your dinner invite might be more inviting if there wasn't a picture of Gill with underwear on his head just above it...

From Jon on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 14:49:37

Maybe a picture of spaghetti?

From Lybi on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 15:40:19

Paul you are so awesome! I wish I could come to your spaghetti dinner!

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 16:10:11

Jon - alright, I changed the picture. Nothing screams "spaghetti dinner" like a penguin and a polar bear speaking German.

From Jon on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 16:14:42

Beauty, eh. Just looking at the picture makes me hungry.

From Cody on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 16:24:16

Caption translated:

Penguin Paul talking - "Jon (bear) quit eating all the food! There is supposed to be enough for 30 people, but you have eaten it all, you pig"

Bear Jon talking - "Huh? where's the buckwheat?"

(German translates very different)

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 16:33:57

Paul - great idea for the dinner. Does anybody know how Hood To Coast compares with WBR? Paul - remove the hyperlink from your e-mail address if you do not want spam bots to get it.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 17:07:48

Sasha - I'm pretty sure WBR is much much harder than HTC. 6000' of total elevation loss (mostly in the first 12 legs). Most legs are flat or slightly rolling. There are some decent climbs, but nothing like Avon, Trappers, or Ragnar. Not to mention most of it is at sea level. It would be noticeably faster than Del Sol, I imagine.

From Jon on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 23:30:22

Man, German sure can say a lot in a small space with that caption...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.500.000.000.000.0015.50

Big Workout today. Sort of. I did a 9-mile tinman tempo (15.5 miles total for the run) on the Millville Hill Loop, plus 4x200m barefoot strides in the grass at the end. My tempo pace was about 10 seconds slower per mile than usual (or more), mainly due to still being a bit tired from Saturday. I decided to back off and complete the entire tempo at a reduced pace, rather than try to force things and risk blowing up. I have another workout Thursday, so today should help that rather than hurt it. By the time I got to the end of the tempo, I found a good rhythm, and was pretty satisfied with the workout. It was a good endurance-builder. The barefoot strides felt pretty good afterward too.

MileSplit
Comment
1 6:11 uphill
2 6:02 rolling
3 6:13 uphill
4 6:44 big uphill
5 6:03 flat/rolling
6 5:55 little bit uphill, then downhill
7 5:53 all downhill
8 5:58 flat
9 5:55 flat

200's were pretty mellow. I hit 37-38 for all of them. The grass was nice and soggy, but not too cold. 6:34/mile average pace for the entire run.

(Triax: 32 miles)

 

Comments
From Chad on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:25:21

The TOU Marathon Blog dinner may make it worth signing up for TOU, even just as a training run . . .

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:00:12

It could also be your chance to eat all the spaghetti in my house.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.250.000.000.000.0016.25

AM - Logan Loop, plus a mile with the dog. 9 miles total. Easy pace. 7:29/mile average pace.

(1120: 235 miles)

PM - Out-and-back to First Dam via the canal trail 7.25 miles total. 6:57/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 334 miles)

Comments
From Mik'L on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 16:46:52

That is a sweet picture in the paper from the half. Way to win on a training run.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.000.000.000.000.0016.00

I did a little bit different of a workout today to keep things fresh. I ran from my house to the canal trail to the Bonneville Trail to Green Canyon, and up Green Canyon a couple miles, and then back the same way. The rule today was that I had to surge up every uphill, so sort of a hill fartlek. Obviously this got tough up Green Canyon, since it was all uphill, but it was a bit more fun on the rolling BST. Coming down Green Canyon I hit 6-minute pace. After I got off the BST on the way back, I did about 3 tinman miles at 6-minute pace as well. 7:05/mile average pace for the entire run.

(Hardrock: 50 miles

Comments
From Cody on Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:43:08

That is a lot of hills, ouch. Oh and nice kicks!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.250.000.000.000.0014.25

AM - landfill loop via planet walk with Cody. Easy pace. 7:39/mile average pace.

(1120: 243 miles)

PM - went up Center Street to Providence via River Heights, down 100 N to Golf Course Rd, and back to my house on Main. I don't have a name for that loop, hence the long description. Started out slow and sluggish, but hit low-6 pace on the last half and ended up feeling very good. 6:50/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 340 miles)

That gives me 431 miles for the month, a new all-time high, and first time over 400. My previous high was around 370, back in 2004. Looking back at my mileage from previous years and comparing to this year, I am doing about twice the volume per week this year on average. And it's much more consistent. More fun facts: of my first 8 marathons from 2002-2005, 6 were over 2:40 (including a 2:47 at TOU), and the other two were both 2:35. My half marathon PR through 2005 was 1:14. Looking at these trends, and then around the Blog at guys like Cody, Logan, Clyde, and others, a pretty obvious fact emerges: you get faster by running more, doing it with quality, and doing it consistently. Inconsistent training yields underperformance, at least in the marathon.

 

Monthly Mileage for 2003 - 2007
  2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
Jan    62 101 149 274
Feb    114 131 228 268
Mar    177 140 277 339
Apr    143 223 187 339
May  94 220 230 53 258
Jun  191 299 177 39 319
Jul  239 234 188 25 333
Aug  345 373 223 81 431
Sep  154 142 191 87  
Oct     27 135  
Nov     0 175  
Dec     23 251  
Total 1022 1763 1652 1686 2560
Month Average 204 196 138 141 320
 




Best 5K 15:38 15:52
17:22 15:23
Best Half 1:14:37 1:14:10
1:12:54 1:09:27
Best Marathon 2:35:20 2:45:09 2:26:35
2:26:24






Notes:




2003: Didn't start recording mileage until late May

2004: Didn't record mileage from Oct-Dec, but didn't do much either
2005: Grand Slam year. Injured from Oct - Dec

2006: Injured from April - September; some mileage represents x-train
2007: Year not complete yet!




Comments
From Cody on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 20:55:48

So your saying I've got a chance...

To add to your conspiracy theory, I have run approx. 80% of the mileage that you have and my projected SGM time will be approx 20% slower. Weird, you may be on to something. I agree that sustained mileage is one of the keys to success. I am at twice the volume of last year and a good 30 minutes faster.

I am afraid it would take years of sustained mileage like yours to even approach the 2:20's...a dream.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 21:13:00

Well, yes. One of my unspoken points is that a lot of bloggers are running marathons in the 2:30s and 2:40s. That was about where I was at just a few years ago. At Ogden a few years ago I ran 2:43, and thought I had a pretty good race. How many people beat that time this year? A nice-sized handful. My former TOU and St. George PR's will be crushed this year as well by multiple bloggers. The bar is being raised higher and higher.

I think 3 things need to come together in order to be "fast":

1)Training - consistent, smart, and lots of it

2)Mindset - if you don't think you can be fast, you never will. A huge part of it is overcoming mental blocks, challenging yourself, and setting good goals

3)Talent - genetics play a huge role. Either you got it or you don't...but a just a LITTLE bit of talent will go a long way when mixed with Training and Mindset. Talent alone is cheaper than table salt (quote stolen from Steven King). By the way, everyone on this blog has talent to various degrees.

Cody, in a span of one year you've gone from trying to qualify for Boston (and missing it) to running a 1:16:00 half marathon and being a legitimate threat to break 2:40 in the marathon. We haven't even seen your rate of improvement begin to slow down. Not that I'm saying that you've got another 30 minutes in you for next year (that would put you down to 2:10...), but you've definitely got some more performance jumps in you.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 19:30:37

Paul - very good analysis. I like the Mindset aspect in particular. Paula Radcliffe once was asked what she thought her limit was. She refused to answer. The interviewer prodded her giving a very challenging, next to impossible, barrier to break - do you think 2:10 is your limit. She still refused to accept it, she said, what happens if I set it at 2:10, and then break it, what do I do next? There is a lesson to learn from that for all of us. While there are statistical probabilities and expected values, we should not let those calculations become a stumbling block for us. The focus should be on what is the best thing I can do next rather than what is it that I can never do.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.758.500.000.000.0020.25

Big Workout today. This morning I ran with Jon's ATK club, which is a great deal because they have caches of water and gatorade every 3 miles, plus bagels and other goodies at the end. James, Dan, and Logan mooched on too. We met at the end of Hollow Road (Mile 17 of the TOU course), and shuttled up Blacksmith Fork Canyon to Mile 3 of the TOU course. From there we ran up to the top of the canyon to the start and Hardware Ranch, took a drink/potty break, and started running down.

After a potty break at Hyrum Park (TOU Half and Freedom Run start lines), Logan and I began a marathon-pace tempo back to the cars. I never felt great at any point of the tempo, but did feel strong enough to keep truckin'. I think that is a result of the 100-mile weeks. I don't have a ton of spring in my steps, but my endurance is very high. Toward the bottom we got a slight tailwind, but nowhere near what we experienced last week. It also started to get warmer out. We stopped once during the tempo, about 7 miles into it, to take some water and gatorade, but other than that it was continuous. Average pace for the tempo was 5:17/mile. If I can do that for all of St. George, that would be good. Average pace for the entire run was 6:11/mile, a new PR for a 20-mile training run. My quads got rocked good by the downhill, but that is what I needed. They need to adapt in order to kill it during the last half of St. George.

Nice progression run today. Splits are below.

MileSplit
Comment
1 7:48uphill
27:38
uphill
37:20
uphill
46:54
up and little, then down
5 6:52downhill
66:43
downhill
76:45
downhill
86:37
downhill
9 6:33downhill
106:20
downhill
11 6:02downhill; started tempo last 0.2
12 5:18tempo; downhill
135:20
tempo; downhill
145:17
tempo; downhill
155:17
tempo; downhill
16 5:13tempo; downhill
175:16
tempo; downhill
185:19
tempo; hollow rd; stopped for water
195:12
tempo; hollow rd
20 5:51tinman tempo; hollow rd
20.255:48/mile pace
tinman tempo; hollow rd

103 miles this week. With two big weeks in a row, next week will be "down" a little bit, probably low to mid-90s. I like to do three-week cycles of two big weeks followed by one moderate week. This usually correlates to my race schedule so that the race is on a moderate week. My favorite race in the Utah, the Alta Peruvian Downhill Dash, is next Saturday.

(Triax: 52 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 17:18:41

Thanks once again for the push today. It will help me out a lot for St. George.

From ArmyRunner on Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 10:31:07

Great run Paul, you truly are ready to roll!

From James on Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 21:52:45

Nice workout today, and good to run with you for a few miles. I am glad you liked the peaches!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. Today I focused on taking naps, sitting in my hammock, and working my way through The Lore of Running. My legs feel pretty good after yesterday. Noakes makes me paranoid about overtraining and destroying my body, since that seems to be all he writes about, but so far I'm not exhibiting any symptoms.

For anyone who's interested, I've posted a profile graph comparing Ogden, Top of Utah, and St. George Marathons on my personal blog. Click here.

Comments
From ashman on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 13:08:58

Yeah, I know what you mean about the book I have read it through and through several times. He does make a good point about the number of marathons the elite have run before their best marathon which is ususlly only a handful with the exception of Josiah Thugwane of South Africa. He does have some pretty good data to back things. And according to him the little breaks of inconsistency I've had will be the very thing that keeps me running well into my later years! It's not all bad I guess.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 15:27:27

I wrote Tim Noakes an e-mail in the early 2003 in hopes of shedding some light why I was performing relatively better in the half than in the full marathon. His theory was that I had run too many marathons and lost the spring in my legs. A few months after getting his e-mail I PR'ed in TOU, followed by another PR in St. George two weeks later, and my marathon performance have been a better quality than my halves ever since. I think there are two types of approaches to the science, or shall we use the title of his book, the lore of running - that of a scientist and that of a coach. The scientist runs a lab, and studies the numbers like a scientist - if you cannot feel it with your five senses, it is not valid. The coach studies the numbers, and is not opposed to using a lab, but he does not worship it. The coach feels things, and does them if they feel right. I suppose one main difference between a scientist and a coach is that when the data defies the intuition, the coach will question the data, while the scientist will question the intuition. It has been my observation that great runners are being raised by coaches, and not by scientists. Noakes is a very thorough scientist, but he lacks the intuition of a coach.

From ashman on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 17:57:32

Still, all said and done if I were given only one book of information to base my training off of, it would be that one. The biggest reason is that the book goes deep into the history of training and competitive running. By that you learn all about the experience and methods of others You learn to discover what works for you and not to follow some blind cookie cutter training formula that everybody else uses.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 18:22:36

Yeah, it's a great book. I just devoured the chapter chronicling the great runners of history. It's very interesting reading about what people over the ages have done to train.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.750.000.000.000.0012.75

I slept in until 7:15 today (hurrah, Labor Day!), then ran the dog around the block, ate my oatmeal (complete with James' awesome peaches), and headed out to the River Trail. From the River Trail parking lot, I did a route I haven't ran in awhile: River Trail to the single track, then took the upper route of the single track ("Bridger Lookout"), which goes to the rock fall above Spring Hollow. Ran/stumbled down the steep rockfall about a third of a mile to the Crimson trailhead, and then ran the entire Crimson Trail.

I was particularly happy because I was able to make it up the ascent without walking at all, except for when I bumped into Logan Fielding's wife and mother-in-law and stopped to talk to them for a while. I had the top of the Crimson Trail to myself, and enjoyed the nice, rolling single track before descending back down to River Trail just above Guineva Malibu Campground. I didn't bother going to the campground, but just ran back on the River Trail.

On the last bit of single track coming back on the River Trail some mountain bikers came up behind me, which lit a fire under my butt for some reason, and I started cranking to keep ahead of them. Mission accomplished, I made it to the end of the single track ahead, and then let up. It was a nice little spurt, and proved once again that legs are better than wheels.

I passed Drew Michener near the end of my run and stopped to talk to him for a little bit. He was just beginning the same route as me, except he was going to go the other way (probably a smart idea).

Caught the 9-minute guy during the last mile, and finished the run averaging 8:53/mile. Considering the route contains a lot of rocky, steep single track, and has 1400' of total relief between the trailhead and the summit (with plenty of ups and downs in the middle), I was pretty happy with that, and felt really good today.

(Hardrock: 63 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 00:30:07

Nice Run, what a clmb. Question, with all the training on hills You climb what have you seen in your running that's improved.

Another Question: My sister-in-law wants to run TOU, but all the hotels are booked from 20 miles away. Do you know of any RV or campground in Logan that she might stay at the night before the race? Or any hotel that might put her on a waiting list if someone cancels?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 09:56:31

Kory - training on hills increases quad strength, which is important for downhill races like TOU and St. George. It can also increase overall speed. And it also makes you faster on hilly courses, like the Olympic Trials course this year is NYC.

There are several campgrounds in Logan and up Logan Canyon. Take a look a yellowpages.com and at the local USFS website.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.500.000.000.000.0015.50

AM - 9-mile Logan Loop, easy. 7:13/mile average pace.

(1120: 252 miles)

PM - 6.5 miles on the canal loop. It was pouring buckets a little bit earlier, but then I got a little window of calm to run in. Unfortunately, the window only lasted 30 minutes, and I needed 40! I was thoroughly soaked when I got home, but happy to squeeze the run in despite the weather. I didn't wear a watch or GPS, but pace was "brisk" to say the least, as I did not want to hang around long enough to get struck by lightening.

(Adrenaline blue: 340 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 21:35:21

My run has been scrubbed so far, since I'm looking for 13 miles with some track work... stinks.

From ashman on Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 16:41:59

I'm not sure if I can come as I may have to drive from my place this year. Thanks for the invite Paul, I will if I can.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.500.005.000.000.0016.50

Big Workout today. It was raining this morning, so I waited until the afternoon to do it. This is all good, because I always feel better in the afternoon or evening, plus the temperature was quite nice.

From my house I warmed up half a mile, and then did a 2-mile tinman tempo, averaging 5:40/mile. I ran easy the rest of the way to the USU track, where I did 8x1000m @ CV pace, with 200m (1:00) rest between intervals. The intervals went quite well, and I felt strong, smooth, and in control the whole way: 3:11, 3:12, 3:10, 3:10, 3:10, 3:10, 3:09, 3:05. I took 400m (2:00) rest after the 4th interval, splitting the session into two sets. There was a slight headwind on the backstretch, and tailwind on the front stretch. There was also a big throwing cage in the middle of the backstretch, so I had to cut into the infield for about 10 meters every lap, which may have cost a little bit of time. I also got to watch the Aggie football practice. I think I saw about 50 dropped passes during the short time I was on the track. They should really consider going D-I AA or maybe D-II.

After the intervals, I bumped into Taylor Price (USU runner), and talked to him for a few minutes, and then headed back toward my house. I did another 2 miles of tinman tempo, averaging 5:40/mile again. After that, I kept a "brisk" pace for the remainder of the run, which involved doing an out-and-back on the Planet Walk. Pace averaged around 6:30/mile. I ended up with 16.5 miles for the run, with an average pace of 5:54/mile. According to my GPS, I hit the half marathon mark in 1:16:00.

I'm glad to have this Big Workout in the bag. It will probably be my last 1000m CV interval workout before St. George. This workout is one of my "keystone" workouts that I can use periodically to gauge my fitness. It's nice to be able to compare it to the same workout throughout the year. It is even nicer to see that I am smashing the workouts I was doing before Ogden. Here is the breakdown:


3-19-07 4-13-07 4-24-07 7-9-07 7-31-07 9-5-07
1 3:14
3:13
3:15
3:15
3:12
3:11
2 3:16
3:15
3:17
3:16
3:12
3:12
3 3:16
3:13
3:17
3:16
3:12
3:10
4 3:15
3:15
3:16
3:14
3:12
3:10
5 3:15
3:13
3:17
3:14
3:11
3:10
6 3:16
3:08
3:17
3:14
3:12
3:10
7 3:15



3:07
3:09
8 3:11




3:05
Ave Time
3:15
3:13
3:16
3:15
3:11
3:09
Pace
5:14/mile
5:11/mile
5:16/mile
5:14/mile
5:07/mile
5:05/mile

(Burn: 259 miles)

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 21:47:46

Paul,

I am impressed with the workout and even more so with the progression. I think you really are ready to run a great marathon. St. George should be a blast to see everyone do so well.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.750.000.000.000.0015.75

AM - easy 8.5 miles on Providence Hill Loop, with a block with the dog afterward. A bit stiff and a little tired from yesterday. 7:34/mile average pace.

(Triax: 61 miles)

PM - 7.25 miles easy. Ran most of it with Jon and Cody (and their kids in jogging strollers). Did the Planet Walk a few times. Beautiful day.

(1120: 259 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.500.000.000.000.0011.50

AM - landfill loop plus a few blocks with the dog for 6 miles total. 7:39/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 346 miles)

PM - Planet Walk with 4x150m barefoot strides in the grass at LHS.

(Triax: 66 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 23:24:11

Come on, some of us computer nerds are sitting here on a Saturday night waiting to hear about your race...

Race: Alta Peruvian Downhill Dash 8K (5 Miles) 00:21:36, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.005.000.0019.00

AM - easy 6 miles on the River Trail. Beautiful, chilly morning in Logan. Hopefully it will be like this for TOU next week. I am running the Alta Peruvian Dash later this afternoon. I love PM races.

(Hardrock: 69 miles)

PM - Alta Peruvian Downhill Dash 8K. This is a rare afternoon race, but they can pull it off because it is up Little Cottonwood Canyon and starts at just over 8700'. It finishes at 6800' ft. For those of you keeping track, that is an average grade of -7.2%. Weather was beautiful, upper 60s with a very slight headwind.

I warmed up a couple miles with Bob, Sasha, and Cody, took my final bathroom break, and then warmed up a little bit more to the start line. This is a small race, about 80 people every year, but it is an LDR Circuit race, so it tends to be top-heavy. I was most worried about Sasha and Bob, but in general liked my chances for a good finish. My unofficial goal was to break 22:00. My course PR is 22:55, from 2003. I also ran 23:30 back in 2005.

Here is the race breakdown:

MileSplit
Comment
1 4:30 honest pace to start; ran with pack
2 4:19 hit a bigger downhill and made a surge, and soon found myself alone. Legs already regretting the move.
3 4:23 Very painful, but holding pace
4 4:25 Horrible pain. Why did I make a move with 4 miles left??
5 4:08 (4:10/mile pace)
Make it stop. Feet on fire. Trying to slow down, but it's to steep for brakes.

Final time was 21:46 (4:21/mile average pace), so I made my goal, plus won the race. There are great prizes here, such as free night stays at the Peruvian Lodge during ski season, so I'm all about that. I also won some Wasatch Running Center socks in the raffle, to go along with my three other pairs.

This was definitely one of the most painful races I've ran in a while. The downhill is simply unrelenting, but even though my pain level kept increasing, my speed held. It's intimidating seeing that "9% grade" road sign with a mile to go, and your quads and feet are already burning. But I'm pleased with mentally hanging in there, and with the last mile split (a PR - ha ha). Looking at other peoples' performances here over the years, I'm right on track where I need to be.

I would have like to have waited longer to make my surge, but my body just kind of does its own thing during some races. Seemed to work at least.

My garmin measured 4.99. Cody and Sasha had 4.99 and 4.98 as well. An 8K is 4.97 miles, so this is a very close, consistent measurement. I ran tangents pretty well, but there's always room for improvement in that area. The mile markers were all way off, but at least the finish was right. It's funny: starting with Mile 2, the miles got shorter and shorter. For instance, my Garmin read 2.86 at the Mile 3 sign, and then 3.82 at the Mile 4 sign. I was sincerely hoping for the finish to come at 4.80! It was disappointing to have to run for almost another quarter mile, but it's probably best that the finish was honest.

A good finish for the Wasatch Running Center: 1, 2, 4, 5.

I cooled down by running back up to the Lodge. Did about half of it with Bob, and then the rest on my own. Running up hurt almost as bad as running down! 

(Burn: 272 miles)

Comments
From Chad on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 23:51:53

Those are some crazy mile splits, Paul!! My quads hurt just reading your entry. Great job.

From Jon on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 23:55:20

Awesome run! Great time! Do you want to run down dry canyon with me on Monday?

Does everyone get a free lodge stay, or just the winner?

From ArmyRunner on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 00:11:39

Great job Paul. One step closer to St. George and the trials!

From wheakory on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 01:51:29

Nice running and prize at the end. You really tore-up the course. I bet your quads were feeling it in the last mile. Way to hold your pace with the pain.

From Superfly on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 10:35:39

People have told me stories of this smoking fast 8k course in Alta...But I never thought they were even close to true. Now I'm convinced it's true. Those splits are out of control. Good job.

From Adam RW on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 15:18:25

WOW! That is a great race! I hope you iced those legs afterwards, I'm sure they were still on fire from burning up the road.

From Michael on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 19:58:55

Great Race - good luck at TOU

PS - you are definately greater at running than figuring out how to use the beer keg tap at the Alta Peruvian

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 20:10:46

Michael - ha ha! I've been living in Utah too long! I seriously forgot how to use a beer keg tap!

From James on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 02:15:18

Are you sure that your didn't have wheels with rockets on instead of flats? Holy fast running Batman! That is why you are the blogs "top runner"!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.500.000.000.000.005.50

 

Ran out to my friend's house to feed her dogs, and then did the Planet Walk. Didn't wear watch. My lower quads are sore today, but not nearly as bad as previous years from the Peruvian. Going down stairs is no problem, and running actually felt pretty good. We'll see how tomorrow feels, but I'm quite optimistic for a fast recovery. I don't really need my legs for another 4 weeks, so lots of time. It's difficult to judge how much damage to put your muscles through, but I really need my quads to be strong enough to hit some sub-5's late in the race at St. George. I honestly think the Peruvian was gamble needed to build that adaptation.

The Packers beat the Eagles, so all is well. The Pack's offense is anemic, but their defense was fantastic, a trend for the year, I imagine.

(1120: 265 miles)

 

Comments
From Superfly on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 19:19:25

Paul I don't think you have anything to be worried about with damage to your muscles. Even if there was some slight soreness you've got a lot of good time to work that out. You shouldn't have many big, or hard workouts left before STGM, so most runs can just be blah miles.

From James in Sunny AZ on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 20:38:36

Are you doing TOU as well, or will SGM be your next race? Wish we could be there for the TOU party, but it is about a 14-15 hr drive for us.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 20:47:17

James - I will be pacing a 2:40 group at TOU. There is about a 50-50 chance I will drop out at Mile 23. St. George is my sole focus.

Will you be at St. George?

From James in Sunny AZ on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 21:00:31

YES! Nothing but death or dismemberment (or freak leg injury) could keep me from St. George. Depending on how well this month goes, I may need to revise my goals a bit, but we will see.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 21:13:03

Cool. It will be great meeting you guys. I'm looking forward to the pre- and post-race Blog parties as much as the race itself (or probably more than the race itself, since it will be considerably less painful!)

From Cody on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 21:53:51

Sounds like you are better off than me. I am hurting big time from yesterday. Delayed onset soreness. By noon today I was crippled. Tomorrows run should be interesting. You are a fortunate soul to be feeling so good.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 22:38:12

Cody - I am having some DOMS myself. I felt better getting out of bed this morning and during my run than I do this evening. But still not as bad as previous years after the Peruvian. I am optimistic to be able to do some MP this Wednesday. Monday and Tuesday will both be very easy though.

From Scott Zincone on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 23:13:35

Rudolph: But you fell off the edge of the cliff.

Yukon Cornelius: Didn't I ever tell you about Bumbles? Bumbles bounce.

And so do bobbled punts by Denver return men.

From Chris Rogers on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 00:27:58

Paul,

I don't think you need to worry about your legs... but I do think you need to have your head examined. A Packer fan!?! I don't know if I can ever talk to you again. Go Vikings!!!

From James on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 00:31:04

Go Bears!

From Jon on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:27:17

NFC??? Are you serious? Go Broncos!

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:56

Chris - The Vi-Queens?? Forget it...

From Superfly on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:59:10

I hate to say it but all the Pro teams are crap. The only real football is NCAA. I wish the NFL were more intertaining but since grade school it hasn't had the same impact on me. However...TO and the Cowboys could be on to something this year.

From Superfly on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:01:25

entertaining

From Jon on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:21:43

NCAA??? I like college basketball better than the NBA, but the NFL rocks! I've never been a fan of college football with its blow out games (i.e. USC vs DII school) and no playoffs.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:31:26

I actually started out as a dog-fighting fan, but then got interested in the NFL because of Michael Vick.

From Superfly on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:53:35

I think I can laugh the rest of the day about the "Vi-Queens" and the "Michael Vick" comments.

Jon I know the no playoff part sucks. I wish they would fix it. But nothing...NOTHING- beats a Saturday of college football. That's why this is my favorite time of year. Do a good long run on Saturday morning and then come home shower and watch NCAA football all day. Your also righ that college basketball is better than the NBA.

From Jon on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 12:48:41

Football all day is a good thing. But I like the parity in the NFL, where either team could win almost any game. Good college games are very exciting, but there are too many where you know the score is going to be 63-0.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 14:46:14

Clyde - the dancing Packsquatch is enough to keep me entertained for the rest of the day.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.500.000.000.000.0011.50

AM - canal trail loop plus a block with the dog, 7 miles total. I'm definitely having a good case of DOMS from the race Saturday, as quads are more sore today than yesterday. Needless to say, the pace was easy this morning. 8:31/mile average pace.

Cold enough this morning for long sleeves and gloves. I love it.

(Triax: 73 miles)

PM - easy 4.5 miles. I started on the Planet Walk, but then bumped into Jon and ran with him back to his house, and then along the TOU course back to my house. 300 S is all chewed up from construction, and is closed to through traffic. I wonder how that will affect the race on Saturday...

Didn't wear watch.

(1120: 264 miles)

Comments
From Michael on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:44:08

I just read your blog of 8/22 quotes - good advise for all runners including me. Thanks for sharing those ideas.

From Mik'L on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:51:04

Long sleeves and gloves! That seems crazy. We will hit 100 again today. Anyway- I thought I would let you know that you better check out Lybi's blog today.

From Logan on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 14:33:07

Great race on Saturday. Looking forward to this weekend. It should be fun pacing Jon.

From Jon on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 15:00:15

38 degrees at 6 am...

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 15:23:12

Yeah Jon, I hope this weather holds up. It looks like it will warm up a little bit over the course of the week, but hopefully it will at least be in the mid-40s at the start line.

From jtshad on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 17:52:53

It was cold up here in Idaho as well, about 39 at 5am. I have long sleeves, light gloves and a wind vest on for my morning run. We even covered our tomato plants last night due to the fear of a frost!

From Superfly on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 22:36:58

Paul do you remember or have your splits saved from STGM in '05? I'd like to check out your pace on both the first and second half.

If you have them and wouldn't mind sharing I'd be interested.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 22:53:35

Clyde, this is pretty much straight from my 10-1-05 blog entry. Hope it helps.

*************************************

Mile Splits/Ave HR

1) 5:36/136 - very comfortable start

2-3) 11:11/170 - 2-mile split, so 5:35 pace

4) 5:23/172

5) 5:32/176

6) 5:13/171

7) 5:33/171

8) 5:50/182 - vejo hill

9) 5:52/183 - vejo hill/recovery

10) 5:53/181 - still recovering

11) 5:50/186 - flat/rolling

12) 5:45/183 - getting the pace back

13) 5:25/181 - back on pace; 1:13:40 at half

14) 5:34/182

15) 5:17/179 - Snow Canyon

16) 5:11/177 - HR is dropping, good sign

17) 5:23/181

18) 5:28/179

19) 5:47/184

20) 5:35/182

21) 5:19/183

22) 5:42/184

23) 5:25/183

24) 5:38/184

25) 6:02/188

26) 5:47/191 - HR is soaring

1:21/198 - last 0.2; HR hits max of 201.

From Superfly on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 23:07:57

That great Paul. Thanks. I'm just trying to put together a race plan and although I may not run as fast I think I can come in somewhere in the ballpark. Those splits look doable for me right now.

The only thing that looks kind of out of line is:

Mile 4 and 6- look a little fast (6 for sure)

Mile 16- Maybe 5-10 seconds faster than I may be

Mile 22- just a touch slow

Mile 25- slow

Mile 26- way to get back on and finish

Any thing you can remember about these areas.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 23:28:33

Clyde - for the first 13 miles I was just following the pack. If the pack surged, I surged with them. There was about 10 of us.

I was rumbling through Snow Canyon trying to separate myself from Sasha and the others behind me, so 15 and 16 were a bit fast. I don't remember Mile 22. On 25 and 26 I was definitely starting to punk out. I think it was beginning to heat up as well.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.750.000.000.000.0014.75

AM - landfill loop plus some extra with the dog. Legs are getting better, but still have a little ways to go. 7:39/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 353 miles)

So the official title of the Alta Peruvian race is "8K Downhill Dash and Barbecue Bash." It has been for years, it's on the website, etc. For those who haven't noticed though, the race t-shirt (cotton of course) says "Downhill Dash and Barbecue Dash". I don't know why, but a blatant typo on a mass-produced race t-shirt just tickles my funny bone and endears the shirt to me.

Lisa: "Come to Homer's BBBQ, the extra 'B' is for BYOBB"

Bart: What's that extra B for?

Homer: That's a typo.

 

PM - 8 miles on the River Trail with Drew. Still sore, but the downhills felt okay. I wore my New Balance 790's for the first time today. They are a lightweight trail shoe, only 7.9 onces. I think they are lighter than my racing flats! It feels like wearing a slipper on the trails. Definitely feel the rocks more. I think I am going to run in these and the Tangents a little bit more over the next few weeks to ensure my calves and feet are ready to handle flats for St. George (I have never worn racing flats for a marathon). 8:13/mile average pace.

(790: 8 miles)

 

Comments
From Cody on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 16:35:05

My wife caught that mistake when I wore the shirt on Sunday. She made sure to point it out to everyone thinking it was hilarious. I wanted to throw it away.

From superfly on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 16:48:59

That's too funny. Oh how the Simpsons have blessed our lives since like 5th grade.

From Logan on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 16:52:57

The Simpsons are classic. I'm excited for the BBBQ on Friday!

From Jon on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 21:44:56

Are you wearing Tangents at St. George or true racing flats?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 22:12:42

Tangents. They are true flats.

From Jon on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 23:29:48

That is what I am wearing, too. I guess I just don't consider them true flats (like Zoom Waffle), but more of a light weight trainer. Bit more heel lift, in my opinion.

From dutch on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:28:17

paul--did you win a night at the lodge or a lift ticket??

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 10:00:05

Ben - $$$ + night at lodge

From dutch on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 10:14:57

'atta boy. that's worth a sore tush. i just remember my butt feeling like someone kicked it as hard possible for 8km.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.500.000.000.000.0015.50

AM - planet walk plus a mile with the dog. 5 miles total. No watch. Soreness steadily decreasing.

(Triax: 78 miles)

PM - went to the chiropractor in Hyrum and then had my wife drop me off at the end of Hollow Rd, and I ran back to my house along the TOU course. 6:59/mile average pace.

My pelvis was torqued from the Alta race. The chiro fixed it up.

(1120: 274 miles)

Comments
From ashman on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 09:13:29

Im thinking about seeing the chiro today.

Do you feel anything different? What and how? What exactly did he do? After seeing Sasha spend a lot of time and money on one with no results, I'm a little reluctant to see one now.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 10:04:01

Steve - the kind of chiropractic Sasha did is a lot different that what I do. I just do the "standard" stuff, and it's not very expensive. I spend about $30/month on it. He will adjust various parts of my back, hips, and neck. Nothing fancy, and no experimental, weird treatments. In particular, my hips tend to rotate on me, which gives me SI joint pain and messes up my biomechanics. After an adjustment my biomechanics are back to normal, so my stride is more efficient and I feel more "even". A lot of times, one side of my body might be "pulling", and the chiro fixes that. I usually just go before the big races, or after a brutal race (like Alta) where I know I messed things up by running downhill. By keeping my biomechanics maintained, I feel that it helps prevent injury, helps me workout better (and get more return on investment), and helps race performance.

That being said, if you haven't been doing chiro lately, I would not see one right before a race, as it may make you sore the first time. In general, two days before a race is not time to try something new (unless you are in a lot of pain to begin with). After a few adjustments, you will adjust easier, and you will not get sore.

From Jon on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 10:52:29

I went to the chiro 3 days before Relay Del Sol and was still sore. Definitely don't start right before a race.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.500.000.000.000.0015.50

AM - planet walk, easy. I bumped into Cody and we ran together for a while. Didn't wear watch. My quads are back to normal, groin is very close. Hamstrings are still a bit tight, and calves are a little tight, but I think the calves are from wearing the trail flats on Tuesday. I think I am on track to feel 100% tomorrow, and hopefully 105% on Saturday. Heh. But in case I don't, my wife will be waiting for me with the car at Mile 20.5 on the TOU course. Always have an exit strategy.

(Adrenaline blue: 358 miles)

PM - Little Workout. Did the Young Ward Loop (11 miles) with 4 miles of tinman tempo in the middle. Splits were 5:53, 5:50, 5:56, 5:49. My hammies had loosened up considerably since this morning and I had a bit more bounce in my step, at least for the first half. The last few miles definitely dragged, and I tightened up as well. Bumped into Jon late in the run and ran with him the last mile or so. 6:46/mile average pace.

(Triax: 89 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 10:50:39

Meaning she will be cheering for you at the middle school? What are the odds you drop out at that point?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 11:06:20

I was thinking the park, but maybe the middle school would be better. I probably have a 70% chance of dropping out. Or if I'm feeling sorta okay, I maybe stop for a while, drink some gatorate and then finish up with Cody or something like that.

From Jon on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 12:01:17

Park, middle school- no difference. Less than .25 miles. Do you know if Logan is doing the whole race or dropping out, too?

By the way, dannerkt got into St George and is looking for race strategy advice and a place to stay.

From Cody on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 12:18:19

Quitters are lazy!!...and smart if it means not over-doing a workout. You are always welcome to join the Dan/Cody pace group when you have had enough.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 12:27:36

Jon - I imagine Logan will run the whole thing, since he didn't do anything stupid the week before like run the Peruvian, plus he begged the race race director for a comp. My comp is non-merit based (it's for making the maps), so I don't need to defend my honor by finishing.

Cody - I didn't know that Dan was running. I figure here are my scenarios:

1) Feeling great: run the whole race at 6-minute pace. Finish with the pace group (or whoever is left).

2) Feeling okay: stop at Mile 21, rest, refuel, change shoes, and then finish up with Cody/Dan.

3) Feeling crappy: stop at Mile 21 and drive to finish.

4) Feeling double-plus crappy: stop at Mile 21, drive home, and go to bed. Check blog later for results.

From Cody on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 12:35:14

Paul,

Dan is planning on leaving his house at 7:30 and meeting me around mile 12-13. He will join me at 6:30's for as long as he/we can hold it then if he gets dropped he will finish at his easy pace giving him ~20 miles of workout with many at MP.

Jon,

I image Logan will just cruise along effortless until you get sick of him doing laps around you and then he will take off and run some 5-min miles to catch up to Sasha/Steve. Who knows?

From Jon on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 12:45:34

Boy, Paul's got all the options thought out. Although I'm not sure you will be a perky, happy running partner at mile 21 if you are feeling double-plus crappy.

From Logan on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 13:30:20

Cody,

It is tempting to try and push the 5-min. miles to catch up to Sasha/Steve but I already told myself that this is Jon's day. I will do my best to help Jon reach his goal.

From Cody on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:01:21

Logan- I knew you were too nice of a guy. I wouldn't be suprised if you were tempted to get some major roadkill at the end especially if money was to be won. I hope it all goes well for the Jon club. No pressure Jon...

From Jon on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:07:13

Man, I'm not sure what I ever did to earn this devotion, but I sure am appreciative. If I win any money (very, very unlikely), I'll donate it to Logan and Paul.

From Jon on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:08:27

If only I could come to SGM and participate in the Paul/Logan pacing club. I would only be good for about 5 miles at 5:20 pace, though, which wouldn't quite get them to the end.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:25:37

This is definitely the most comments I've gotten after a 4-mile run.

Jon - of course I've got all the options thought out. What else is there to think about? My wife often asks me what I'm thinking about. She expects to hear something deep, and is disappointed when I always tell her either, "running" or "the Packers" or "personal finance". I then tell her that men are very simple creatures.

It's not likely you will money, but you have a high probability of being top Valley finisher, which usually wins a treadmill worth $1000. I think it would be a great idea to set up a bunch of treadmills in Dan's garage for the winter. Also, age group winner is worth $50, which is enough to take your friends out to dinner.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:26:35

err...that should read "you will WIN money".

From Logan on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:30:10

Jon,

You hooked us up on those Saturday morning runs. It is the least we could do.

From Cody on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:36:11

Hey I will volunteer to house a bunch of treadmills in my garage. That way I can still run when its so cold that my front door won't open (which is usually in November). The only problem is I don't have any 80's style brown and orange carpet to put it on like Dan's. So I guess that wont work.

Lets all hope that the Blog dinner does not give everyone food poisioning and spoil the fun...

From Jon on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 15:59:39

Cody, I think you just jinxed us. Quick, knock on some wood.

Paul- I understand about running, football, and money. But what about food? That is often on my mind, too.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 16:30:24

Food? That is more of an unconscious reflex for me, like breathing or blinking.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.500.000.000.000.009.50

AM - 7.5 miles on the canal trail. Took it slow and easy. 8:44/mile average pace. Some dude passed me on the canal trail coming back. That felt sort of weird.

Will do a few more miles tonight. My probability to finishing TOU has been upgraded from 30% to 33%.

(1120: 281 miles)

Top of Utah preview newspaper article is HERE. Jon's pace group made the print, heh heh. Now the pressure is really on. The article also mentioned someone else who I did not know was running: Joseph Sitienei. He has run a marathon barely under 2:22 at sea level, and several marathons and halves much slower. He will contend for top 3, but I doubt he can win. Being a sea-level flatlander will not help him either. But it will make an interesting race.

PM - ran with the dog, then ran to the TOU expo to get my packet. Chit-chatted with people way too long, and then dashed back to my house to get ready for dinner. Picked up a couple miles total.

Dinner was fun. We have a full house, and my wife and I set PR's for most people in the house at once (20), and most children in our house at once (5). I'll post some pictures on the news board tomorrow. By the way, someone left a bib that says "Lil Flirt". If it's unclaimed, I'll made the dog wear it. 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:23:44

Paul:

Joseph Sitienei is a 2:11 Kenyan marathoner, and his best half is 1:01. Of course, his recent race of 2:21:59 which he did not win shows that he is not in 2:11 shape. But a 2:11 marathoner can come back to 2:15 fairly quickly, which would give him around 2:17-2:20 (depending on the wind) on the TOU course. So he could cause problems for Hobbie if he does make it to the starting line.

From ArmyRunner on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:06:17

Interesting as Sitienei is also listed in the elite field at Twin Cities on October 7th. I guess he is using this as his tune-up race like Sasha. He ran a 1:10:30 half on Sep. 2nd which was a fast competitive race with the winner running 1:02:20 and the top 8 under 1:03. So he may not be in much better than 2:22 shape. I wish I could be there to watch. It sounds like it will be an interesting race with Hobie, two Kenyans and Sasha all going out pretty dang fast.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:39:19

Interesting info. All I could find on athlinks for Sitienei were some relatively slow times from this year (for a Kenyan). I saw a 2:29 marathon in there as well. 1:10:30 in the half at sea level is not worth much more than 2:27-2:29 at TOU. But as Sasha said, a guy like that can get in shape pretty fast.

Question: does TOU pay for these guys to come out here? It seems that $1000 isn't a whole lot of money for someone from Georgia, considering cost of travel.

Regarding weather and winds, early this morning (6AM) was relatively warm in the Valley, which led to a pretty heavy canyon wind. By "relatively warm", I mean I wore long sleeves but no gloves. If tomorrow is similar (which I think it is supposed to be), I like our chances for getting a good tailwind for several miles. I think temperatures will be nearly perfect. Not too cold at Hardware, but cool enough in the valley to run fast. At 9:30 this morning it was still a very pleasant temperature, below 70. I think it may get hot for the 3hr+ people by the very end though.

From Jon on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:55:15

30 to 33%, huh? Big increase!

Did HJ interview you recently or something? But the pressure is on you and Logan more, since they talk about you leading the pace group but doesn't name any of us members.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 13:39:45

The HJ called me yesterday. I named you several times, but I guess he didn't like my quotes. "We'll be primarily pacing our friend JON ALLEN. He poops a lot. Hopefully we won't have to stop to poop more than three times, because that could seriously hinder us from breaking 2:40."

Can't imagine why they didn't print it.

From James on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 14:00:34

Who were the "other guys" that the HJ said you and Logan are supposedly pacing to under 2:40 besides Jon?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 14:06:06

The pace group:

Pacers: Paul and Logan

Competitors: Jon, Kory, Adam RW, Nate Hornok. And anyone else who wants to join us.

From Jon on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 14:15:34

Man, I wish they had put that quote in! I would have been so famous, no one would ever forget that story. Maybe if I win the race they will interview me and I can attribute the win to not having to stop to go poop. And the pacers. I can only hope.

From Dustin on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 15:48:04

I figured I would post this on Paul's blog since he gets quite a few readers

Cody emailed me the other day about staying at my in-laws cabin in Pine Valley the night before the marathon. I'm just wondering who else from the Logan Chapter of the fastrunningblog or any others from the blog are still needing a place to stay Friday night.

We have at least 6 beds and two couches plus quite a bit of floor space.

The cabin is nice and only 10 minutes from the starting line.

The one downside is having to travel back up to Central after the race to get any bags or things left behind.

So far I've heard from the following

Cody

Bill "wildbull" Campbell

Steve Hooper

From Logan on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 17:03:13

Paul and Jon: I don't think you can say p**p on a family friendly website like this. I am offended!

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 17:06:51

How about "poo?"

From Logan on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 17:18:38

Pooh, like Winnie the Pooh, is much better!

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 17:21:34

No, poo, like Mr. Henke the Christmas Poo.

From James in Sunny AZ on Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 14:05:35

or how about U-No-Poo, one of Fred and George's famous signs in Harry Potterdom? The constipation sensation that's gripping the nation!

From Jon on Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 20:03:37

Man, I could sure you some of that stuff some days.

Race: Top of Utah Marathon (26.2 Miles) 02:39:22, Place overall: 7, Place in age division: 2
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
29.000.000.000.000.0029.00

Top of Utah Marathon. I've been looking forward to this for awhile even though it was not to be an all-out race. I enjoy the local event, and was looking forward to pacing people.

Weather was just about perfect. Nice and cool at the start but not uncomfortable. Good tailwind coming out of the canyon. It felt a little warm halfway through, but stayed mild to the finish, especially once I dumped some water on me.

Due to the Alta race last Saturday, I was unsure whether I would finish. I knew I had more than enough fitness to meet the task, but it was previous muscle damage I was worried about. My quads had recovered, but my hamstrings were tight all week. I knew if they tightened up too bad, or if the quads reactivated, I would need to call it a day at Mile 20, nothing more than a good long run. But I did want to run all the way through if it won't cause damage. I just needed to listen to my body.

Along with pacing goals, I wanted to treat today as a dress rehearsal for St. George - same routine, same clothes, same shoes, same drinking, gu, etc. I needed several questions answered:

  • Would flats agree with me for the marathon (I've never worn them before).
  • Would the Garmin be distracting over that distance (due to autolap)
  • Would Gu upset my stomach

As far as the race itself, Jon's entry best summarized it. My garmin ended up getting quite a bit off due to poor tangents (hard run good tangents in a large group), so I will borrow Jon's watch splits. For St. George, I will either turn autolap off, or just use a regular watch.

It took me a while to find our pace. By the third mile, though, we were locked in, and I stopped thinking about it, and just checked the garmin every so often to make sure we were not too fast. I had to stop and tinkle twice, which cost 20 seconds apiece, but I was able to catch up within the mile both times. That is strange for me, because I usually don't have to tinkle during races, and twice is certainly excessive.

I started out the first few miles feeling good, but my hammies tightened up by Mile 5. This made my finish doubtful. However, they didn't feel any worse at Mile 10, and about the same at Mile 15. I decided at Mile 18 that I would finish, as my stride was still bouncy and my body was hanging in there just fine. The flats felt good, so I will go with them for St. George. I drank lots of gatorade a took a couple GU's, and no problem from that either.

Pacing was fun, and it was rewarding to run for a purpose beyond individual accomplishment. I have always gotten a thrill from seeing other people PR (a great thing about track and field, lots of events to watch teammates!), and was happy to take part in helping people in the race today. Logan and I were on a mission. I'll remember this race because of it.

The first 16 miles were pretty easy for pacing because everyone was feeling good. The only trick was to slow the pack down when it needed it. Once we hit the tailwind, we tried to decrease effort and coast for a while to let people "rest". It's tempting to hammer too hard in those situations. Even with that, those miles were still the fastest.

After Mile 16, I could sense Jon laboring a bit more. Steve and Adam broke off, and both were looking great. Logan and I stayed with Jon and went to work with him and on him. I'm not sure if Jon got sick of me yelling at him for 10 miles, but my goal was to encourage him and keep him focused on his goals. We concentrated on milking the downhill through Mile 18, and then had Jon tuck in close behind us for the rather long climb through Millville into Providence. We hit about 6:20 for those uphills miles, which was great. We tried to work the downhill into Providence and mustered 6:10 or so. I knew Jon was grappling with the Wall, but hoped that Logan and I could do as much of the work as possible (there was headwind here and there), and help keep him focused and resolute. Speaking from my own experience, it's easy to stop caring during a race and just "settle" for finishing, but that was not an option today.

Jon was an absolute champ and kept his focus, never doing anything slower than 6:40 during the last four miles. I knew one really bad mile could cost him 2:40, but all the miles were solid. Most miles were 6:30 or a little under. That is very good for this late in a marathon while fatigued, especially the TOU course, which is not forgiving. We caught Adam in River Heights, and dropped him a little bit later. We worked the uphills, and had Jon open up on the downhills, where he got some nice surges in and ate up ground. The last quarter mile Jon was able to to smell the barn and kicked it in hard. We got 2:40 with room to spare. Group hugs all around. Adam finished soon afterward, a very nice PR for him as well.

I was happy to finish and felt pretty good considering the hard week I had recovering from Alta, but I was most happy for Jon, Adam, Cody, Kory, and the others who ran their butts off and got awesome PR's. The FastRunningBlog took 1-2-3-4-5 in the 24-29 age group: a clean sweep. That was pretty cool.

Congrats also to Hobie Call for a performance that lifts him among America's elites. Very few Americans can run that fast. Cool stuff, and inspiring too.

Mile

Time

1

5:54

2

6:05

3

5:53

4

5:49

5

5:59

6

5:57

7

5:54

8

5:50

9-10

11:46

11

5:55

12

5:44

13

5:44

14

5:51

15

5:56

16

6:01

17

6:00

18

6:07

19

6:18

20

6:20

21

6:11

22

6:26

23

6:31

24

6:31

25

6:41

26

6:32

.2

1:15

Comments
From Brent on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 11:09:16

Great recount of the race, it seems you are ready for St. George. Also, impressed with the the PRs you helped on. Best to you at the George.

From James on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 14:30:46

That was cool that you stuck it out to run in with Jon, even with a tough week and sore muscles. I am excited to see what you do at St. George!

From Superfly on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 17:55:33

Good job Paul. Way to help out a friend. You and Logan's fitness must be amazing.

I think I'm getting just as exited to have you and everyone else come to town as I am for the race. We should have some fun... a lot Saturday night after some big PR's.

I was floored when I saw that Hobie ran a 2:16...................What do you say after that? Amazing I guess. I guessed that on a good day he'd be around 2:19 but not a 2:16. I guess his 1:04 at Bryce was the real deal and not just a fluke.

What do you think he will run at the Trials?

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 19:11:06

Clyde - I guessed he could be under 2:18...but that far under! It's hard to predict Trials. It will depend how well he can race against other people, and whether large packs will help or hurt him. I have no guesses on time, since the NYC course is supposed to be very tough and not very fast. But place-wise, I think he has a shot at Top 10. There's no reason he can't mix it up with names like Shay and Hartmann.

From Jon on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 22:36:33

Nice "race" report (2 races now in 3 weeks that are workouts). I can't thank you and Logan enough for your help, though, and was very glad that you guys got lots of publicity in the HJ for your service in pacing us. Thanks so much- and I owe you dinner.

From Adam RW on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 23:30:35

Paul, I can't thank you enough for hosting the dinner and helping me along with Jon. I had to give it a try at mile 17 and will only be stronger next time around for the effort and the knowledge gained. You are a great runner and a great friend to Jon. I look forward to hearing about your sub-2:20 at St. George and running with you in the future.

From Jon on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 15:01:26

By the way, you put this as the "Top of Utah Half Marathon" on your race report.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

I took today off for recovery. I feel pretty darn good after the marathon, no soreness and little fatigue. Felt even better after a 2.5-hr nap! Hopefully tomorrow will not bring any delayed soreness, but not over the course of today so far, so I don't expect any. Very encouraging, especially after last week.

A few interesting TOU Marathon notes:

  • This year was my second fastest TOU time, just 1.3 seconds faster than 2005 (2:39:22.5 vs. 2:39:23.8)
  • My gun time was 0.04 seconds faster than Logan's, but his chip time was 0.07 seconds faster than mine.
  • Although we were denied Top 3, Fast Running Bloggers swept every spot from 4th to 12th. Pretty cool.
  • Jon Allen captured a front paged title in the Herald Journal this morning. "Allen aided by mantourage."

In more important news, the Pack win again!

Now back to watching the Patriots game.

Comments
From Logan on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:42:12

What is the link for that article on the mantourage? It was great running with you and everyone else on Saturday. It was a great day.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:58:00

Logan - unfortunately I can't find any link for the online article. Lots of stuff about the Aggies losing though. Leave it to the HJ...

From Jon on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 10:29:01

I have a paper copy- I'll scan it and put it up on my blog today (ala Cody style).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - easy 5 miles on Planet Walk and a few blocks with the dog. Feeling splendid. No tightness or soreness. I'm still going to take it relatively easy until Thursday, just to ensure proper recovery.

(Adrenaline blue: 363 miles)

It looks like the USATF LDR has posted the final standings HERE. 5 bloggers in the Top 10, including a clean sweep of the Top 3.

I am not sure if I will go to the Awards Banquet or not. I usually skip stuff like that (especially for $30/plate + 170 miles driving round-trip), but if it exceptionally fun and/or if the food is exceptionally good, I may go this year. Has anyone gone in the past that can fill me in? Anyone else going this year?

PM - 8 miles on the canal trail loop. Rained a little bit. 7:08/mile average pace.

(1120: 289 miles)

Comments
From Cody on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 15:30:56

Lets hope they mail the $1K to you otherwise you had better go. I certainly don't want to fork out $30 for $10 worth of food. Looks like I squeaked into the top 10 barely. Do you know what the age group awards are?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 15:37:08

Cody - I imagine age awards are a plaque or something like that. That's what I got 4 years ago. They also mailed me my stuff last time, but that entails waiting.

I can easily eat $30 worth of food, as long as it's buffet-style.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 16:21:18

Paul - they usually pay for the winner's dinner, but not for the family. For me, this has been one of the deal killers. I do not like to be forced to go on a $30 + babysitter fee date when most of our dates do not exceed $10 budget. I'll propose at the next USATF meeting a different form to honor the winners. Something that does not require a door fee, and something you can bring your kids to. Maybe something similar to the bloggers party.

From ArmyRunner on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 20:53:56

Paul,

Congrats on the runaway victory this year it was well deserved.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.000.000.000.000.0015.00

Canal trail to BST to Green Canyon to end of Green Canyon single-track and back. Perfect weather today. Some fall colors are starting to appear up Green Canyon. It's amazing how much better I feel this week than last week. After my first mile today, I thought to myself, "I get to run 14 more miles! Happy Joy!" Not sarcastic, either. So it was a good run, and I enjoyed climbing hills in the 790s. They are a good shoe, although my feet are definitely tired after 15 miles. 6:54/mile average pace.

(790: 23 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - planet walk, easy, no watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 368 miles)

PM - Providence Hill Loop, via Von's Park. Felt great. 6:47/mile average pace.

(Triax: 97 miles)

I went to the doctor today to have my iron checked. I feel fine and exhibit no symptoms of low iron. However, I just wanted to check and make sure, since I have been doing doing the most mileage of my life, and am eating a semi-vegetarian diet. I weighed in at 130 lbs, fully clothed with birkenstocks on and pockets full of keys, wallet, phone, etc. This is the first I've been weighed in a few months, and it's where I want to be.

My test was good. I am the opposite of anemic, on the high end of normal. Now at least I know for sure.

Comments
From Jon on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 23:44:19

So you are telling me you weigh less than 125 lbs???

Did you go up the Von's Park trail? It's a nice little jaunt- too bad it isn't longer. Good way to get to the top without the steep uphills.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 09:50:57

I don't think my birks weigh 5 pounds! I'm probably more like 128. Yes, I took the Von's Park trail.

From ArmyRunner on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 12:00:10

That's funny, Sasha and I were discussing weight this morning and he said he thought you weighed about 130 lbs and I said I thought you were closer to 125 lbs. I guess you split the difference and are right in the middle. How tall are you? My guess was 5'8".

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 12:03:07

5'9".

From Cody on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 12:41:40

5'8.5" ... don't lie paul.

From Jon on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 13:44:44

Running with Paul and Cody is one of the few times I can feel tall...

From Cody on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 14:10:52

Everyone feels tall next to me.

5' 7.125" Don't take away my .125".

From Jon on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 16:04:43

Why don't you just say 5' 7 1/8"? Sounds better.

From Cody on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 16:10:17

I prefer the inaccuracies of a decimal. If I were to put 5'7 1/8" and had to prove it, it would be difficult. But a decimal gives me more freedom...A math/nerdy thing of some sort. Nevermind.

From Jon on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 22:58:19

Stopped by at 8 pm. No one home. Maybe tomorrow night.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 23:59:57

Jon - you picked the one night we were out.

From dutch on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 09:18:46

hey paul--do you ever think it's weird or creepy that we all contemplate and discuss the dimensions of your body?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 09:37:53

Ben - everyone needs a hobby.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

Big Workout today, which turned into Big Disaster. Well, that's exaggerating. More like Moderate Disappointment and Slight Anger. I was planning on doing MP intervals: 5-mile tempo with 2 minutes recovery, 4-mile tempo with 2 minutes recovery, 3-mile tempo with 2 minutes recovery. So 12 miles of tempo total. An ambitious workout, but I did something similar before Ogden and I liked it.

Unfortunately, I didn't run until afternoon, and it was about 80 degrees by then, warmer than it had been all week. So that was mistake number one. And then I choose to do the Young Ward-ICON Loop, which can be windy in the afternoon; sure enough I had a headwind for the first 5 miles. Mistake number two. And then I didn't finish eating my lunch until an hour before my run. Mistake number three. So the heat sucker-punched me, the headwind kicked me to the ground, and the upset stomach spat in my face.

The workout started well enough, and I was down to sub-6:30 pace at the end of my 1-mile warmup. I started the first tempo segment and hit a 5:30 and then a 5:28. But I was already struggling by the second mile. I decided to break it up into smaller intervals, so took a two-minute recovery right then, and then started another 2-mile interval. First mile in 5:24, but then I felt pretty bad, and rather than push through it, I called off the dogs and canned the workout after another quarter mile. I hate giving up like that, but at this stage of the game, trying to push through 80-degree heat and a headwind just to hit some splits would have done damage, not good. I underestimated the heat, and pushed too hard during the first 2 miles, and I think it messed up my body for the rest of my workout. But in any case, my stomach was getting upset too. And my shoe was giving me a blister. And the air was stinky. Just not a good day.

I completed the loop and tried to just keep a steady pace. I would surge up to tinman tempo pace every so often and hit a few sub-6 splits, but mostly tried to keep it under control. Lessons learned: 1) get the workout done in the morning, or even early afternoon while it is cooler; 2) adjust pace better for heat and headwind. A split is just a number, it is the effort that matters.

Finished up with 12 miles instead of the scheduled 16, but my body told me to call it a day and not push it. It's time to start tapering. 6:12/mile average pace for the run.

(Burn: 284 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 00:22:33

Sometimes schedules are so busy you can't d o a run in the temperature and time of day you want. Still a very nice run and good quality miles. Will you do any hill intervals to get ready for STG?

From Jon on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 00:52:30

Don't forget that you ran a marathon last Saturday, and this was your first real hard workout after that. I'm sure your legs are feeling some fatigue from that still, or at least may not have as much umph as you would like. No worries, you'll be fine.

From cody on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 10:04:54

It was stinky! How are you supposed to run fast when it is stinky? Its just not possible!

From Logan on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:19:30

Don't stress too much Paul. We all have days like this.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - easy 5 on the Planet Walk and with the dog.

(1120: 294 miles)

PM - easy 8 miles on the Logan Loop. 7:08/mile average pace.

(Triax: 105 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
18.000.000.000.000.0018.00

Different kind of run today. I met Cody and Leland Barker at First Dam, and we drove up to Beaver Creek to mark the Bear 100 course for next week. We first ran out to near Danish Pass, and then back to car. Then we ran over to where my Aid Station will be next Friday (Fish Haven Canyon). At that point Leland drove back down, and Cody and I continued running down Old Logan Road, marking the course every 300-400 meters or so. It was a nice road and the aspen were peaked in color. We got down to the Beaver Creek campground and met back up with Leland. Cody and I need more miles, so we went on to run all the way out to the highway. With the nice downhill, and without having to stop and flag, we were averaging about 6:40/mile on this part. The pace on the uphills earlier in the run was much slower, but I wasn't really paying attention. I originally wanted a few more miles than this, but maybe I'll grab a mile or two in the afternoon. For now I'll call it good with mileage in the low 80s for the week. This is a bit more taper than I anticipated, but I think I need it, after Alta and TOU. I'll probably hit upper-60s next week.

Took a glorious nap in the afternoon, and then ran 1.5 miles with the dog in the rain to clear my head and get blood moving again. 

(Hardrock: 80 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 18:10:13

What day/hours are you working the aid station next week? What mile marker is it at?

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 19:42:55

Jon - the aid station is about at Mile 33. I'll be there roughly from noon to 5PM on Friday (yeh, get to skip work!). I am bringing my EZ-Up tent and some camping chairs, anyone is welcome to join me!

From Jon on Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 20:21:47

If it were 6 pm or later, I would. Can't miss work, though.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.000.000.000.000.004.00

Easy run on the planet walk, then a block with the dog. No watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 372 miles)

The Packers defeat the Chargers. 3-0. All is well in Packerland. The Packsquatch is celebrating.



Comments
From Logan on Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 15:56:08

I personally like the Grizzly Adams look. Lets bring it back Paul!

From James on Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 19:12:59

Paul can grow a sweet beard, I wish I was that cool! I've seen the beard in winter months and it is impressive, but personally, I like the short hair cut he is sporting right now.

From Jon on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 20:24:01

I'm rooting for the Packers this year out of all the NFC teams, especially when they are playing an AFC West team! Go Broncos!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.005.000.000.0013.00

Moderate Workout today. Fortunately, I had perfect weather this time: overcast, mid-50's with no wind. I put on my racing flats and ran from my house up to the USU track (3.25 miles) at about 6:40/mile pace. Then I did 5x1600m @ LT pace, with 400m (2:00) recovery.

IntervalSplit
1
5:09
2
5:09
3 5:08
4 5:08
5 5:00

 

These all felt good, and I felt relaxed for the whole session. Definitely a confidence-booster after last Thursday. My right SI joint is a little tight, but I have a chiro appointment followed by a two-hour deep massage tomorrow, so that should take care of it.

Ran home from the track, a little under 7:00/mile pace. 6:11/mile pace for the entire run.

 

 

*************************************

Here's a picture of our TOU pace group. To say we were enjoying ourselves immensely was an understatement. The photo needs a good caption.


Comments
From Logan on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 14:28:24

I would like to get a framed copy of this somehow. It would go great in my downstairs with the rest of the running decor! If I remember right, Paul and Jon did just fa**!

From Jon on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 14:53:07

If I remember right, Logan was the stinkiest one... I have one particularly fond memory from mile 24.

From Logan on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 17:07:51

Jon, I think it actually kept you moving to get under 2:40.

From Jon on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 20:21:26

Probably so, but it was a calculated risk. I was either going to run faster or drop over dead from the smell.

From ashman on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 21:19:07

NO COMMMENT!

From Adam RW on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 18:00:55

I think you both should have been disqualified for jet propulsion.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.000.000.008.00

Ran to the dentist for my 8AM appointment (2.5 miles). Good checkup, no cavities. The dentist looked down my mouth and said, "You're not from Utah, are you?" He is not the first dentist to infer that just from my teeth. I don't know why they don't fluoridate the water out here; every other place I've lived has fluoridated. Oh yeah, I forgot: "Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" We wouldn't want to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids, now would we?

Enough ranting about fluoride, or lack thereof. I ran back home from the dentist (yes, carrying my new toothbrush and floss), dropped off my stuff, and then did a few more miles out to the Planet Walk. 8 miles total, about 7:30/mile average, give or take. It was a beautiful morning, crisp and sunny, with caps of snow on the Wellsvilles.

My day of appointments continues this afternoon, with visits to the chiropractor and the massage therapist. Gotta love the taper.

(Triax: 113 miles)

Comments
From Superfly on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 13:50:10

Water tastes so much better without fluoride. Like here in Torrey. Straight out of the mountain...Mmm! Bottled water eat your heart out.

From Adam RW on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 17:59:08

I definitely sense a bit of taper madness in that post!

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 18:05:33

Taper madness, plus a little Kubrick.

From Tyler on Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:46:38 from 144.46.104.12

Paul, I'm perusing your old logs for training inspiration. Had to drop a comment of appreciation for the well-placed Strangelove quote. Hope all is well with you.

From Paul on Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 08:59:54 from 50.203.178.38

Glad my blog is still helpful to folks. I definitely had a lot more free time back in 2007 to rant about stuff! All is well here. Good luck with your training!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

I ran after work again today, and it was absolutely beautiful. Low 60's, sunny, no wind. I did a 9-mile run, down the canal trail to First Dam, and then up Hwy 89 to USU. I had to make a stop at the Merill Library at USU to photocopy a journal for documentation for my professional GIS Certification. Now that I have over 4 years of work experience, I qualify to apply. I could barely recognize the library (or the campus for that matter), since so much has changed over the last 5 years. I used to have to get my own journals from the shelves, but those are long gone. Now you make a request via computer, and some high-tech James Bond-like devices bring the journal to the person behind the counter, and then they give it to you. In any case, I managed to make my photocopies (on new high-tech copiers), and then continued the run home, via 1000W. I was wondering all day if my horses would be neighing. I think I had one horse neighing, but maybe it was wishful thinking. Definitely not two. But that's good, since I have 10 days left. 10 days!! If horses neigh too loudly for too long, they end up losing their voice. 6:46/mile average pace.

(1120: 303 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 00:22:33

You definitely have too much time on your hands, with the duck hunt. Though it's really hard to play on a small computer screen- I only hit one duck on the whole round! I definitely did better at the dog hunt, though I felt kinda like Mike Vick.

I don't get the whole horse thing...

From Jon on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 00:24:48

I did better with the 1 duck- only missed 2.

From Jon on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 00:26:15

How bout embedding Contra? With 30 guys?

From Cody on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 09:59:24

I just set a new high score! Until you close the browser... 68,000...How Special!

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 10:20:21

Jon - be careful what you wish for. It looks like Contra is available.

From Logan on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:46:11

I'm glad you only had one horse neighing!

From Jon on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 23:02:51

Where did the game go???

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 23:58:32

It's still there. Maybe your internet connection is really bad.

From Dustin on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 00:08:57

Just got my vote for most enjoyable blog. Duck Hunt is a classic. Did anybody ever get into playing Techmo Bowl, probably spelled it wrong on the Nintendo, we used to have some great games, back when Bo Jackson dominated.

From Jon on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 01:22:15

No one could catch Bo. And I loved how there were only four plays.

From Jon on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 01:24:38

I just had to refresh.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.004.000.000.000.0012.00

Moderate Workout today. I wanted a progression run, with a couple honest warmup miles, then to brisk, then to tinman tempo, then to MP, and then a short cooldown. I did the Millville Hill Loop, the old, tough standard. Here's how it went.

MileSplit
Comment
1 6:43 warmup
2 6:26 warmup
3 6:14 "brisk" pace; uphill
4 5:56 tinman; rolling
5 5:48 tinman; half down, half up
6 6:20MP; all uphill
7 5:46tinman; rolling
8 5:06MP; downhill
9 5:45 half MP, half tinman; downhill
10 5:24 MP; rolling
11 6:33 cooldown
12 6:30 cooldown

 

It was a really good workout, definitely the fastest I've done this loop. One horse neighing, maybe one and a half. 6:20 is the fastest I've done the big hill mile by about 10 seconds, and it felt excellent. This mile has about 280 ft elevation gain (~5% gradient). After the big hill, I recovered for a while on the flat, and then tore into the big downhill. 5:00 pace felt conversational at times. I hit a bio-break after Mile 8 at a park, and then it took me about another half mile to find my rhythm again, but I was hitting 5:20-pace on the last half of that mile. The last mile of the tempo I just held 5:25. 6:02/mile average pace for the run.

(Triax: 125 miles)

 

 

Comments
From Cody on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:02:21

Impressive

From James on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 14:57:24

Good workout today, can I borrow your legs? You are looking good for next week!

From Mike K on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:50:18

Calvin College was in action today.

1. GRAND VALLEY STATE

1 11 17 25 39 (43) (45) = 93

2. CALVIN COLLEGE

4 12 27 28 35 (76) (77) = 106

3. ILLINOIS STATE

7 8 14 21 80 (88)(101) = 130

4. U.S. MILITARY ACADEMY

6 9 18 50 72 (91)(103) = 155

5. WINDSOR

10 29 40 47 52 (53) (75) = 178

6. AKRON

13 20 42 46 68 (69) (78) = 189

I was checking on Pat Smyth's results and found these results.

http://und.cstv.com/sports/c-xc/stats/2007-2008/nd-invite-results.html

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 22:39:42

Grand Valley beat us?? That's a shame. The Notre Dame meet was always interesting. There is a "little school" race and a "big school" race. If you win the little school race, you get to run the big school race the next year. We would always bounce back and forth. We'd win the little race, then move up the next year and get pummeled by Notre Dame, NC State, Duke, Stanford, or whatever other D-I schools would show up that particular year. Then we'd get booted back down to the minor leagues the next year.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Today I skipped out on work and volunteered at an aid station for the Bear 100, our local ultra trail race. I was at the Fish Haven Road aid station, which is near Mile 34. I left Logan at 10AM and started setting up a little after 11AM (it's a long drive). It was just me and two ham radio guys from Bear Lake, who turned out to be pretty cool. Karl Meltzer came roaring through at around 12:15 PM. I've gone through marathon aid stations slower than he went through this one. Probably 3 seconds between check in and check out. He is trying to break the course record. Best of luck to him. He must be around Mile 75 by now (9PM).

Running the aid station was a lot of fun, and I learned a lot. It was painfully obvious at times that I was a rookie, but hopefully I will do it again next year with a year under my belt and be more polished and have more of the "little things" right. It was enlightening to be on the "other side" of a race and serve rather than take. I will definitely never get mad a volunteer ever again, that's for sure. What a neat experience, I hope to do more of it.

Toward the end of the day, when there were only 4 runners left to go through our checkpoint, I started doing little mini-runs to get my miles in. I ran the course backward on Old Logan Road until I saw the next runner, then I would run back to aid station before they got there. After 3 times of doing that, I had 6 miles in. The last runner had dropped out, so we didn't have to wait any longer, and it was time to pack up, at around 6 PM. After packing the car, I did a little out-and-back down Fish Haver Road, which is a nice dirt road that goes to Bear Lake. I caught some really nice vistas of the lake. The aspen are peaked, and it was a wonderful, glorious day to be outside in God's creation. Definitely lifted my spirits. I love fall.

(Hardrock: 89 miles)

Comments
From James on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 23:25:46

I would love to go volunteer with you next year. Dave covered that story last year with the HJ, and I wanted to go out with him, but had other things going on. It is a good experience to be on the other side of a race. Karl is not my favorite guy, but I wish him luck too, he is one heck of a ultra runner!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.000.000.0013.50

Ran with Dan and Cody from Dan's house, up to the Deer fence trail, and went from Millville Canyon to Dry Canyon and back. Pace was slow, although those hills are hard no matter how slow you go. Temperature dropped about 10 degrees during the run. 8:33/mile average pace.

This afternoon I went out to the finish of the Bear 100 to drop off some stuff. Karl Meltzer did indeed break the course record by over an hour, with a time of 18 hours, 50 minutes. That is an average 11:20/mile for 100 miles. Leland Barker was second, with a PR of a shade under 21 hours (I think, I can't quite remember).

(1120: 316 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Went for a nice little fall colors hike with my wife, up Dry Canyon. Beautiful day.

Pack win again, to move to 4-0. Favre sets all-time TD record. Geb's new record is great, but I still like Favre better.


Comments
From Jon on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 15:23:20

Nice picture.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.002.000.0012.00

AM - easy run on the Planet Walk. No watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 377 miles)

PM - Little Workout at the USU track. The plan for today was 2x1600m @ 10K pace, with 400m recovery (2:00). I warmed up for a mile on my own, and then another mile with Cody, who would be using me as a pacer on my second interval in an attempt to break 5:00 in the 1600. It was starting to rain and get windy, so we decided to get going before things got worse.

For my first 1600, I started with a 71, thought that was too fast, and settled down into 2:25 at 800m and 4:52 for the 1600m. Felt excellent. Cody did his strides in front of me on the front-stretch, which helped him get a feeling for the pace, and also blocked the headwind for me. However, the headwind died during the second half of the interval.

For my second interval, Cody tucked in behind me. The plan was to run 73-second laps. The first 200 was 35, then 73 for the 400, thanks to the headwind that re-started. 2:27 at 800m. Cody started fading a little on the 3rd lap, and I hung back to enough to keep him in contact and take the wind on the front-stretch. 3:46 at 1200m. I told Cody he needed a 73. I picked it up a little bit and finished at 5:00. Cody was 5:04. This interval felt very good as well. No anaerobic running, and recovery was fast.

I did the exact same workout the week before Ogden, and ran 5:02 and 5:01. This time around,the 4:52 felt like the 5:02 back in May. I had a similar experience with my mile intervals last week vs. the analogous workout back in May. Hopefully this means I can run St. George at an effort 10 seconds faster per mile than Ogden, which would convert to 15-20 seconds/mile faster due to the greater downhill. We'll find out.


Comments
From James on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 23:20:42

Good job on those miles! I know you are ready to hit your goal at St. George, and I hope you know it too.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

No running today (yet). I woke up feeling rather run-down and a little achy. I went to work for a couple hours, but then decided to go home and try to nip this thing before it starts. After about 3 hours of napping, I felt a bit better and optimistic about getting a run in, and I went back to work. However, after an hour at work, I started feeling a little nauseated and called it quits for good (no vomiting yet, though). My wife says I feel "warm". Hopefully this is just a little flu bug that will be gone by tomorrow. I figure any running at this point in my taper is mostly psychological anyway, so I don't think a day off will do any harm, whereas forcing a run could cause full-blown sickness. I feel like I'm teetering on the brink, so hopefully rest and a lot of liquids will kill this thing. If I feel "perfect" by this evening, I may jog a few miles, but for now I'm content to do nothing.

Comments
From James on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 20:18:22

I think mine started out as a flu before it turned into full-blown pneumonia. I have never been that sick in my life. I am still recovering after more than a month. I hope you feel better soon. Everyone seems to be getting sick this week!

From Lybi on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 21:11:25

Paul, I'll be praying for a quick recovery for you. Get Well Soon!

From Cody on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 21:34:02

Get better soon!

From Logan on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 09:09:00

I tell everyone, "Lots of orange juice is the key!" Get better.

From Dave Holt on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 09:26:36

I've got the same thing going on. No fun, but starting to feel better today. At least I could eat.

No big deal, you'll get feeling better quick.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 10:28:43

Thanks everyone. I'm feeling a bit better this morning. My stomach feels a little messed up from being so empty, but hopefully that's it.

From jtshad on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 10:29:50

Hope you are on the mend and avoiding the bug. See you Friday.

From Jon on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 16:24:24

Rest and drink!

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 16:28:18

Drink? My boss told me today to hammer the tequila. "It'll kill anything in there!" he said. I've elected to stick with orange juice and electrolyte drink though.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 16:59:34

If it just stomach, raspberry tea helps. If it is respiratory as well, try sucking on garlic for a long time - hope Stacey can forgive you.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 17:21:24

It's just stomach and slight fever. No respiratory (hopefully).

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 17:53:30

I've never had a fever without a respiratory issue of some kind to follow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.000.000.000.006.00

I felt a bit better when I woke up this morning, other than being very hungry. I ran a block with the dog, and it felt okay. I went to work for a little while, but then my tummy started hurting again, so I went home and slept for another 3 hours. Things felt better after that, and I worked from home the rest of the day (self-quarantine). I ran 5.5 miles in the late afternoon at 7:15/mile average pace. The legs felt fine, but my stomach is definitely still a little messed up, and I feel rather weak in general. I need to be carbo-loading right now, but I have no urge to eat. I'll try my best. If I don't feel 100% tomorrow, I'll have to seriously re-evaluate my race strategy.

(Triax:  131 miles)

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 19:24:03

Drink as much raspberry tea as you possibly can. This should make you hungry.

From James on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 21:57:05

Peppermint Tea is better for stomach issues, if you are into the herb thing.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

I woke up at 4AM this morning, and my body said, "I'm sick of sleeping. That's all you do anymore." I guess 30+ hours of sleep over a span of three days is plenty. I'm feeling quite a bit better today, and hopefully it sticks. The last couple days I've felt decent for the first few hours, then I start feeling sicker during mid-morning. But today will be different. ;-).

I ran an easy 5 miles with 4x100m strides at the end. I bumped into Cody after a mile and ran with him for a couple miles, then finished up on my own, and with the dog. Didn't wear watch.

We are leaving for St. George at 2PM, which should put us there by 8:30 or so, with a stop at the WRC and dinner along the way. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone this weekend.

(Adrenaline blue: 377 miles)

Comments
From Dave Holt on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:55:02

I was just going to mention to you that Clyde had said you were coming down tonight, so maybe we all could catch a few miles then, but I see you won't be here until later - so have a safe drive and keep feeling better.

From Logan on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:24:07

Drive careful and we should get together tomorrow for a short loosen up the legs run with whoever is down there.

From James on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:11:57

I'll see you down there. You are ready to kick some trash, don't let your flu bug get in your head, you will do great.

From James in Sunny AZ on Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 00:14:00

Glad you are feeling better, Paul, we were both praying for you to recover quickly. I look forward to meeting you this weekend, and wish you the best of luck. You are ready for St. George and the OTQ.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
3.000.000.000.000.003.00

Drove up the St. George course with Clyde and ran the first few miles of the course. There was a nasty headwind, but it is supposed to die down this evening and turn into a tailwind or cross wind.

Afterward, we drove the rest of the course.

(Triax: 134 miles)

Comments
From dutch on Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 21:44:58

Go get 'em pauly

From Adam RW on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 18:54:50

YOU DID IT!!!! On to NYC!

From Jon on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 19:16:23

Did you just delete your post? I think you lost all the comments, too.

Race: St. George Marathon (26.2 Miles) 02:18:09, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 2
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.5026.200.000.000.0026.70

First off, awesome job to everyone who ran the race. And it was great getting to meet so many people before and after the race.

I stayed with Clyde and Mik'l both Thursday and Friday night. It helped getting there a day early, so that I could get the stress of driving out of the way and have all of Friday to relax, go to the expo, scope out the course, and finalize race-day strategy.

Clyde and I drove the course on Friday, which allowed me to lay down the foundations of what I would do on Saturday. It was helpful to see the Vejo hill, and even more helpful to see the quarter-mile downhill after it, and the three-mile uphill after that. I determined I would try to relax up Vejo as much as I could, and then regain any lost energy on the short downhill before the real test: Dammeron. For Dammeron, I would be content to not push the pace either. In fact, I planned to do as much sitting and as little leading as possible for the first 12 miles, before turning it loose at the half. Hopefully the competition would cooperate!

Race-day arrived, and the weather cooperated. And fact, it was utterly perfect. High 30s at the start, with an ever-so-slight breeze that would act as a tailwind for most of the course. At the staging area, I did very little warmup (only about 0.25 miles plus strides), and focused mostly on getting quality porta-pot experiences (4 total, matching Clyde), and keeping my core and my extremities warm by hanging out at the fire pits. So mostly, I hung out and shot the breeze with friends.

I do not get nervous for marathons, by the way. 1500's on the track make me very nervous. 5K's make me a little nervous. But the marathon is too long and too dependent on long-term training to make me nervous. The work has been done over the last several months, and now it was simply a matter to execute the training. It's kind of like typing a long document (the training), and then hitting "print" (the race). Or it's like painting a house. All the washing, chipping, scraping, caulking, and other preparation is the hard part. Painting the house is fun. At 6:45AM, it was time to paint the house.

It was still very dark when the gun went off. It remained dark for the first 5 or 6 miles, resulting in me missing most of my splits (I was running Garmin-less). This was all fine though, because I could just focus on the pace, the pack, and how I felt.

I was hoping that lots of people who were not me would want to take the lead at least through Vejo, preferably through Dammeron. Maybe it's selfish, but I wanted to run as efficiently as possible, and therefore just tuck in and let other people do the work through the hard part of the course. The weather was already cooperating, and so was the competition; several dark shadows of runners stepped up (none who I knew), allowing me to draft guilt-free. The first 5 miles went by very fast. I only got two splits: a 10:48 2-mile, and 16:06 for the next three miles. This is a conservative start for the "A" group, but fast enough for me and exactly what I was hoping for. Due to this conservative start, part of the "B" group caught up, including Mike, Sasha, and Steve. This was great. More bodies, bigger pack. Better banter too. Chit-chatting with others makes the first half of marathons go faster.

So far my body was feeling good. I was running in just shorts, singlet, and gloves, but felt okay with the cold temperature. My hands were a little cold, and my knees were freezing and achy for some reason, but other than that, things were good and the pace felt efficient. The sun started to come up, and Vejo was upon us before I knew it. Believe it or not, I was actually looking forward to Vejo, because my cold, achy knees (and lower quads) were already a little sick of the downhill (somewhat alarming), and I predetermined yesterday that I was going to relax up Vejo and expend as little energy as possible, a plan that I further committed to when Sasha informed me we were ahead of the 5:20-guy right before the hill. Indeed, Vejo was enjoyable, definitely a good change of pace. However, our pack completely fragmented here. Dave Danley pushed up the hill and separated himself. Sasha, Steve, and Mike dropped back.

At the top of the hill it was just me, Sean Sundwall, and Nick Schuetze. Nick, Sean, and I formed a temporary alliance, and began what was probably the most enjoyable part of the race for me. I drafted off of Nick for about halfway up Dammeron, and just tried to stay relaxed and easy; time did not matter yet. We made comments on the beautiful sunrise and redrock. It was a gorgeous day, and life was good. By the start of Mile 12, Nick started pushing a bit, and chasing Dave Danley. I stuck to my plan of relaxation, let him go, and worked in with Sean. We discussed trading off leads, but with no headwind, and with the hill nearly over, I was content to run side-by-side. I missed a some splits, but was averaging 5:30-5:40 on the Dammeron hill.

Sean and I crested the hill at Mile 12. I gave him a high-five, and said "It's time to go." And we did. With the mission accomplished of running a relaxed first 12 miles and mooching off others, it was time to start really working, and time to get under qualifying pace. I knew based on the splits of previous winners (James Lander, Joe Wilson, Mike Kirk), the second half is where the race is won. Mile 13 was a 5:08, and we were rolling again. Nick had gapped Sean and I by a bit, but Danley was starting to come back; I knew that we could reel him in. 1:11:24 at the half.

Seeing Snow Canyon was a beautiful site; not just its aesthetic appeal, but also the downhill it represented. I have been mentally (and physically) preparing to hit this section at sub-5 pace for several months, and now it was time to do it. Sean really helped hammer the pace from 15-17. My quads protested a little bit, but remained intact. We passed Danley around 15 miles. At Mile 17, I checked my splits and realized that we had just put together a 15:20 5K, and three consecutive sub-5's. We were definitely back under pace, now I just needed my body to hold up, kind of like a shuttle holding up during re-entry of the earth's atmosphere.

Sean and I kept working together and encouraging each other. Fist-bumps, high fives, whatever it took. We knew we were on the verge of doing it. I missed another split, but got 10:18 for a 2-mile during 18-19. Satisfactory. Then a 5:27 for 20 (up the overpass hill?). One of us remarked "10K left". No wall for me get, although my muscles were certainly all protesting from the battery, particularly my left calf. My knees were feeling better though, once it had warmed up. Sean had a pace band and informed me we were on track for 2:19. I needed nothing better than that, and tried to relax a little and just keep my body intact. But kind of like the Alta race, but body was already in auto-pilot, not heeding my mind, and working even harder. The four-mile stretch of 21-24 was 20:04. I gapped Sean a little bit with 4 miles left, but didn't feel confident enough to make the big move, and he caught back up. I felt like I still needed someone to push (or pull) me if things turned sour. I started a mantra in my head, "There will be no Wall." With 5K to go, I gapped Sean again, this time for good. "Okay, just a 5K," I thought to myself, and started doing some mental math to figure out how slow I could run a 5K and still hit the "A" standard. My mental math wasn't doing so hot, and by the time I figured it out, another 5:00-mile had passed, and now I had only two miles. "There will be no Wall."

Now I knew the "A" standard was a virtual certainty. I was hurting, my muscles were screaming at me, but I was not near the Wall. "There will be no Wall." I ran Mile 25 in 5:13 just to prove the point to my doubting mind. Now it was just a mile race. Just a 1600m track interval. "There will be no Wall". And there was no Wall. Last Mile in 5:13. Last 0.2 in 1:07. Last Half in 1:06:45.

Ryan Hall is one of running role models, not just because of how he runs, but how he uses his running as worship, as a way to praise and glorify God. How does it feel to qualify for the Trials? Elation. Absolutely amazing. And I give God the glory and praise for the chance He's given me, the gifts He's given me, the beauty of His creation, and just the feeling of running in itself, fast or slow.

I was happy to see both Sean and Dave Danley hit the "A" standard too. And I was absolutely elated to see Logan cross the line in 2:21:45. That was definitely a moment I'll remember for a long time.

Lots of other fabulous performances by other bloggers and friends. I'd like to make a list of blogger PR's, but don't have time right now. :-) Today in St. George was certainly a special day. St. George is a special course, fast by its very topographic nature. But in order to have a truly special race, you need three other things beside a fast course: 1) cool/cold weather with no wind or tailwind; 2) thick competition; 3) great training and preparation. Sometimes you get only 2 or 3 of these four things to come together. This will lead to a good race, but not a special race. It is rare when all 4 factors come together on the same day, but today was one of those days. It showed not just in my race (an 8:15 PR), but in the times and PR's of countless others. It was truly a special day in St. George: a cold start, a tailwind, superb competition (and pace groups!), and lots of well-trained individuals.

MileSplit
1-210:48
3-5
16:06
6
4:58
7-8
11:02
9
5:43
10
5:31
11-12
11:23
13
5:08
14
5:12
15-16
9:49
17
4:58
18-19
10:18
20
5:27
21
4:53
22
5:05
23
5:03
24
5:03
25
5:13
26
5:13
0.2
1:07
First Half
1:11:24
Second Half
1:06:45
Total Time
2:18:09

Comments
From Maria on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 19:40:27

Paul, this is so awesome!!! I saw your name about an hour ago on Letsrun thread, and then in the official results. Huge congratulations on OTQ (and under 2:20 too!) and on getting 2nd!! Looks like a great performance with a 5 min. negative split, which is not uncommon for St. George, as I understand. You're doing something right in your training (thanks to Tinman's big workouts philosophy, perhaps?), and hopefully, you'll continue to improve! All the best, and happy running in NYC!

From Bonnie on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 20:30:03

Congratulations Paul, quite an accomplishment today!!

From ArmyRunner on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 21:02:37

Congrats Paul, you deserve it! Have a blast in New York, I am looking forward to watching the trials and seeing how everyone does. Thanks for all of your support and advice on the blog as well as it means a lot.

From S Browning on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 21:22:58

Great Job Paul, a well deserved performance!! Best of Luck in New York!

From Dustin on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 22:46:02

Great Job Paul! What an inspiration to the rest of us bloggers. Best of luck in New York and let us know if we can help out at all.

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 22:55:41

Paul - congratulations on being the first blogger to qualify, and not only that, but with standard A. Good luck in New York!

From Ethan on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 23:06:33

Congratulations for sure on the qualifying time. Most people think you mean BQ time when you mention qualifying time. Not Olympic qualifier.

Awesome work. You ran an amazing race

From Tom on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 23:32:12

Congrats Paul, as a spectator today it was awe-inspring seeing you come in followed by so many of the other bloggers in the top 20. Good luck in NY!

From James in Sunny AZ on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 00:02:56

Congratulations, Paul, I was so happy for you when I met you in the post-race recovery area and heard how well you did. Lybi saw you come by but couldn't even see the expression on your face because you went by so fast. Awesome job!

From Paul Thomas on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 02:43:11

Let me add my congratulations. I'm proud to share the same blog (and the same name). Best of luck in NYC!

From Ruthie on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 04:04:19

Great job at running freaking fast today! I guess I won't repeat what everyone else just said, but I wanted to add something since you ran such an AWESOME race today. And by the way, the coaches at Calvin(specifically Nancy Meyer) say hello. Congrats yet again, you're performance today was really awe-inspiring!

From jtshad on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 07:35:40

Congratulations on a fantastic race on obtaining the A Standard. Can't wait to here about your OTQ race in New York!

From Jed Burton on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:44:16

It's been incredible to follow your success this season, Paul, especially given the injuries you were recovering from a year ago. Congrats on a stunningly fast time, and best of luck in NYC.

From Aaron on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 16:35:30

Sweet. I hope today's nap was the best yet.

From Superfly on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 16:52:15

Again great race Paul. We loved having you guys stay with us this weekend. I think having you here helped me run a better race too. It just helped having someone so focused here to help me not be so stressed. Way to set a bench-mark for the rest of us. Looking forward to many more racees. Good luck at trials.

From Brent on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 18:56:32

Paul, congradulations, WOW, WOW, WOW, a million commando points for your OTQ. Have the time of your life at the trials. Wow, wow, wow and wow again.

From Chris Rogers on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 20:41:40

Paul--Congratulations! Your great race is clearly a byproduct of the calculated training and outstanding dedication you have shown from the beginning of 2007. You are very deserving of your Olympic Trials berth, and I can't begin to say how excited I am for you! I can't tell you how many times out on the course I was doing mental math myself to try to figure out where you were at based on a 2:19 finish time. Congratulations again--what a great accomplishment!

From dutch on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 21:30:23

Paul,

I knew you'd do it. Wish I could have been there...

I'll be watching you in NY.

From dan on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 23:58:45

Awesome run Paul. I tell everyone I meet that I know an Olympic Qualifier. You are an inspiration. I feel the same way about being greatful everyday that I am able to be out running. I know God is smiling when one lives up to their potential and does so in such a classy manner. You are one of my heros.

From James on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 00:51:15

You are the man! I am always proud to call you my friend. Not only are you a great guy, but you are so darn fast! You deserve all the spoils because you have earned it through your smart training and hard work. Great race, and good luck at trials, I'll be cheering you on!

From Chad on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 01:27:28

Paul, thanks for the thoughtful entry. Congratulations on an outstanding race. Recover well for NY. We'll all be there in spirit cheering for you.

From ashman on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:03:19

I can't believe your closing mile splits! You are a tough cookie Paul, Good Luck in New York I'll be praying for you man.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:25:43

Paul, such an inspiration. Great job!

From Cody on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:27:05

Let me be the first to congratulate you. Wait, maybe the last. Good job buddy! I am so proud to be a training partner of the famous Paul. Like you have said many times, you trained for it and all you had to do was execute. And man did you execute. I wish I could have been a camera man filming the show. The hard work payed off.

From Randy on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:00:07

Dude, I know you are inundated with comments, but just wanted to say congrats! Thanks for the sweet race report and for showing us how it is done! You and Logan really ran picture perfect races. Can't wait to see how the trials play out. .. a tough, hilly course... anything can happen. Best of luck!

From wheakory on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 12:36:58

Paul what an amazing accomplishment... God really blessed you. It couldn't have happened to a more talented and generous person. Your going to go far with your running. Good luck in the trials.

From Bethany on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 13:10:18

Congrats on an awesome race. Glad I was there to see it. Thanks for training with Cody and helping him reach his potential. What is there left for you to conquer? Great job.

From Mik'L on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 13:15:44

Great race Paul. It was so much fun to see you come in. We loved having you guys stay with us and I really think it helped Clyde calm down a little having you there (yes, that was calm for him!). Hopefully you are doing okay today since I heard Nick Schuetze has been in the hospital for some muscle related problem. Good luck at trials...just enjoy it! Hopefully I will win my trip and we'll be watching!

From Jon on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 14:45:00

I want to add my congrats to everyone else's. I guess your training strategy of napping more than the competition worked (with a bit of running in between). Nice job!

From Jon on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 15:35:43

One comment- I heard from about 10 people that you had a smile on your face the whole way for the last 2 miles! Maybe you will have to give me tips on how to look happy at the end.

From Tom on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 15:41:48

Having been a spectator at the finish line I can vouch for Paul looking great coming in and having a big smile on his face. He looked like he could have gone a few more miles yet. I think maybe the only other leaderboard runner that was any more jovial was Logan.

From Jon on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 16:41:46

Hey, if you were a woman, there would only be one faster person in the world than you (Paula Radcliffe)!

It looks like we were lucky with the weather- http://www.marathonguide.com/#Featured

All other marathons were hot, while SGM had "ideal" conditions.

From Paul T on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 16:51:34

I don't know how you and the other elite runners on the blog feel about AgeGrade percentages (I'd never heard of them before today), but in the SGM results it shows your AgeGrade percentage as 90.4%. If you click on the question mark icon that explains the AgeGrade percentage it says "Over 90% = World Class". Congratulations on being a "World Class" runner. Quite impressive.

From Lulu on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 18:11:44

Wow! Congratulations! You are inspiring!

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 19:44:44

Thanks everyone. Saturday was truly living the dream, and I am thankful for it.

Yes, I was smiling for most of the last two miles. I was also yelling a little, throwing cups, and generally scaring the volunteers.

I definitely made the right choice in my fall marathon. Chicago and Twin Cities were horrible busts for all involved, due to weather. Meanwhile, St. George was absolutely perfect, plus I got to spend the weekend with friends. Hands-down the best running decision I've made all year.

From Andy on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 21:57:39

I'm sure your just about sick of comments but your run was truly amazing. Coming back from the injuries last year and performing at this level is a true inspiration. I was pretty frustrated with my 5 minute negative split but if it was good enough for you then it must be the right thing to do.

From Jon on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 23:25:55

I forgot that you were choosing between SGM, Chi, and Twin Cities. Good choice.

From Michael on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 23:49:46

Fantastic run and attitude Paul - sounds like you had alot of fun too, alot to be proud of. Best of luck in New York - you can do it

From Sean Sundwall on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 00:24:22

Paul,

Great report. You filled in some gaps. It was a pleasure to run with you for so much of the race. I look forward to seeing you in NYC...assuming I can get my legs working again.

--Sean

From Nick on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 01:01:14

YESSS! Paul you rock man! That is an awesome time. Congratulations on the PR and keep on rolling through Oly trials! It will be really cool to run with some of those big dogs!

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 16:59:31 from 64.81.245.109

Bump to get this to the Hot Discussions. OTQ is hot.

From paul on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 17:18:28 from 65.103.252.214

Sasha, I'm disappointed it took you almost two years to post on my blog. :-(

From Brent on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 18:52:07 from 168.178.30.75

Paul, read the bump, #18 at the OTQ, the Logan Legend

Stay Kool, Running Great Again, B of BS Rools out

From Kelli on Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 21:16:48 from 71.219.76.64

Cool BUMP. You are FAST!

From Fritz on Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 23:07:34 from 97.117.43.207

I never said nice work so I will say it now. 5 min negative split! That must have been an awesome day for you.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

No activity today. I feel like I was thrown off a horse, and then the horse repeatedly and purposely stomped on my left calf about 10 times. And then other various barnyard animals came out and trampled my quads, hips, and hamstrings. And then that horse came back out and stomped my left calf a few more times just for spite.

The plan is to get a long massage tomorrow, gets lots of sleep, drink lots of fluid, and do some elliptical Tues-Thurs. I'll start running again no sooner than Friday.

For those interested, Sean Sundwall (3rd place overall, the guy I ran most of the race with) has posted his race report on his personal blog. If you haven't gotten enough of race reports already, it's a good read.

http://twenty6two.blogspot.com/2007/10/olympic-trials-here-i-come.html

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 20:24:30

Paul,

I was laughing out loud reading your comments. I can relate as that same horse must have came by my house after he left yours and he drug those darn barnyard friends of his along with him as well. However, he chose to stomp on my left hamstring and let his friends take care of my calves. I am trying to run but it really sucks! I liked Sean's story, we should convince him to join us on the FRB as well.

From Adam RW on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 23:02:52

I'm still laughing. I can just picture the animals lining up to take their turn.

From jtshad on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:55:41

Paul, do you remember that crazy maroon minivan with the Idaho plates...that kept honking and waving at you as you were driving through Spanish Fork/Provo? That was me. The first time we honked it looked like you jumped, sorry!

Congratulations on the great race and good luck in NYC.

From Jon on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:03:24

http://hjnews.townnews.com/articles/2007/10/09/newtoday/newtoday02.txt#blogcomments

Only 33 faster marathoners in the nation!

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:09:11

Jeff, yeah we figured out it was you after the second pass.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:12:38

Jon - Pretty funny. Did you submit that?

From Jon on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:17:18

Maybe, maybe not. You can't prove anything against me! I want a lawyer!

From Stacy on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 22:33:15

Jon-I was going to submit Paul's name, but since I already contacted the paper about his performance on Saturday, I thought it might be overkill.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.001.501.50

I'm still pretty sore today. My left calf is the main problem. I went in this afternoon for a nice, long massage. My massage therapist is a miracle worker. Talk about the laying on of hands and anointing with oil...

Afterwards, I went to the gym and did 15 minutes pretty easy on the elliptical. Planet Fitness now has a new building. It is bigger and has more TVs.

Weighed in at 131 pounds. 

Comments
From Jon on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:15:16

How much does Planet Fitness cost? What are their hours?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 10:11:13

Jon - There is a $30 start-up fee, but after than it is a flat $10/month. The best part is that they don't make you sign a contract, so you can quit whenever you want. Their hours are:

Monday - Thursday 4:30am - 11:00pm

Friday 4:30am - 9:00pm

Saturday 7:00am - 7:00pm

From Jon on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 10:12:54

Is that per family or person?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 10:36:36

Per person. The rec center is probably a better deal for families, but their equipment is junk. No flat-screen TV's either.

From S Browning on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 13:12:28

It is not Plantar Fascitis, the pain is at the insertion of the achilles tendon, kind of! This is a long running problem and a host of theories have been proposed including insertional achilles tendonitis, retrocalneal bursitis, and posterior tibal nerve compression. I have been to many orthopedic sports med people and a podiatrist, had physical therapy, and MRI which showed bursal swelling, but the achilles tendon to be in good shape. I have been doing ART therapy lately and have had reasonable results. Essentially it looks like I have balls attached to the back of my heals. I know you had foot problems last year, and I would be open to any suggestions you may have. Again, I must say, you ran an amazing race - great job.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.002.002.00

Biked to the gym and did 15 minutes on the elliptical. Everything is feeling much better after the massage yesterday, especially the quads. The left calf is still the worst area, but it will be there by Friday.

Comments
From Jon on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 23:23:56

I'm doing 8-10 miles on Green Canyon Friday. Care to join? Or is that too ambitious?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 23:53:51

A little bit much. I'm staying off downhills until next week. The closest I may come is maybe doing the River Trail on Friday and/or Saturday, but only 7 miles or so. Company would be welcome for either day.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.002.002.00

Biked to the gym and did 15 minutes on the treadmill. My quads are ready to run again. My left calf is not quite there today, but should be good to go tomorrow. I'm looking forward to running again, but it's been a nice recovery week. I've needed to extra time to get logistics together for NY. The USATF and NYRR have made this as painless as possible, and I am all set up for flight and hotel. Stacy is coming with me, and we managed to get her on the same flights, and the seat next to me for the most part. Family does not stay free at the host hotel, but we're getting a very good deal for NYC, as these rooms ordinary go for about $500/night. I am really glad I hit the "A", as it allowed us to afford Stacy to come along, which is really important to me. I can't imagine how much people spend to travel out for the New York Marathon. 

Comments
From Stacy on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 22:18:41

I'm glad you hit the A, too, 'cause it means I get to go shopping...oh, and watch you run a marathon.

From James on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 23:36:17

There goes all your winnings this year(the shopping)!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.000.000.000.007.00

Today I *gasp* went running! Finally. 7 mile out-and-back to First Dam. I bumped into Vance Twitchell, his wife, and Seth Wold's wife, and shot the breeze for a while with them about the Trials and about D-I Pre-Nats this weekend in Terre Haute. I am very interested in seeing how Seth Wold does down there, as well as our own Nick Miller. Having race results to look forward to will help diminish post-marathon race-result withdraw (PMRRW).

Anyway, the run today felt pretty good. My quads, hips, glutes, and hammies are all fully recovered and feeling loose. My right calf feels great, but my left calf is still sore, and inhibited my foot strike and push off a bit. But it is getting better every day, so hopefully it will swing around by Monday or so. 7:33/mile average pace.

(Triax: 141 miles)

Comments
From Cody on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 22:07:45

PMRRW huh? That's a new one. Sure beats my PMS.

From Stacy on Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 13:17:03

Yeah, 7:33 is such an easy pace. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that that is approximately twice as fast as me.

From Mike K on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 16:04:59

Did you see the results? Pat Smyth finished 5th in the blue race. There is a decent video at http://www.flocasts.org/flotrack/coverage.php?c=105&id=5153

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.000.000.000.007.00

7 miles on the River Trail with Cody. It was a nice morning, cool with logs of colored leaves on the ground. It started raining at the very end. My left calf felt a little better than yesterday. Went home and took a glorious nap. 7:46/mile average pace.

(Hardrock: 96 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
11.500.000.000.000.0011.50

AM - 5 miles on the Planet Walk. Calf is almost 100%, but got a little tight halfway through the run. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 382 miles)

PM - 6.5 miles on Landfill Loop, plus a block with the dog. Gorgeous day, nice to be outside.

(Triax: 147 miles)

In other news, the Pack win an ugly one to move to 5-1. Nasty play by the offense, even nastier play by the refs, and by far the worst play by Washington. A win is a win though.


Comments
From David on Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 20:01:41

Bears dropped a winnable game to the Viqueens, apparently Chicago's starting a completely different defense than last year, even though the guys have the same names. My run helped me forget about it, but Vince Lombardi riding a pig was a great reminder. Thanks.

From Superfly on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 10:56:31

Nice hog! New England needs to go down. The Cowboys gave them a o.k. game but nothing amazing.

I watched the end of the Washington/Greenbay game and it was like no one wanted to win.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:08:41

I think Green Bay's defense wantedd to win, but that's about it. Washington helped them out a lot by dropping about every pass as well.

From Jon on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:13:27

I was able to watch a lot of this game. It was more exciting than Titans-Bucs on the other channel. Go Packs! and Broncos!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

AM - Providence Loop, easy. 7:17/mile average pace.

(1120: 322 miles)

PM - Canal Trail out-and-back, 6.5 miles. 6:54/mile average pace. Culpepper and Hall are shaking in their boots now that I can beat the 7-minute guy again.

(Adrenaline blue: 389 miles)

Comments
From Bethany on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 21:21:57

Hope you feel good about taking the car and making your wife walk to meet me! j/k thanks for suggesting I run with her. Best thing for me! You have quite a catch there.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 21:28:00

Yeah, unfortunately I don't have a little scooter to zip around on. I guess I owe Stacy dinner or something. Or I should have to carry her to the Planet Walk next time. She is definitely a great catch though.

From Stacy on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 21:31:27

Yep, I'm pretty great.

From wheakory on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 23:03:59

Whatever happens in the trials I know it will be your best performance ever. Just think about Brett Favre when your out there running. The come-back king.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.004.001.000.0012.00

semi-Big Workout today. It was "only" 12 miles total, since I am not really recovered from the marathon yet, but was still enough to work me over. The workout was a fartlek: 10x2-minutes @ CV pace (roughly 5:05/mile on flat terrain) with 1-minute recovery jog between intervals. Afterwards, 10x20-second strides @ 3k-5k pace with 40 seconds recovery.

Logan and Cody joined me, which was really nice. It's so much better doing hard workouts with other people. Plus, I could draft off Logan. :-).

Since the NY course is so hilly, wimpy track workouts are out of the question. Rather, I elected to hit the road and the rolling hills of the North Logan-USU-Boulevard Loop. The first 5 intervals had a lot of uphill, but then the last half of the set flattened out and had some gradual downhill as well. I used my Garmin to record distance and pace for the fartlek intervals, but ran them mostly by feel.

IntervalDistance
Pace
1
0.40 5:04/mile
2 0.39 5:11/mile
3 0.39 5:10/mile
4 0.38 5:20/mile
5 0.39 5:06/mile
6 0.41 4:59/mile
7 0.40 5:05/mile
8 0.39 5:11/mile
9 0.39 5:06/mile
10 0.41 4:57/mile

 

In general, the faster intervals had more downhill, and the slower intervals had more uphill. I like this course because it's fairly challenging. Not as hard as my Millville Hill Loop, but still good. I was feeling pretty beat down halfway through, but fortunately had Logan to keep pushing me. Once we got to the top of the course, the terrain got a bit easier, but both calves really tightened up and got a fairly sore. I still have a ways to go on the recovery.

The last thing I wanted to do after the fartlek was 10 strides, but the three of us grunted our way through it. Thanks guys for a good workout. 6:37/mile average pace for the whole run.

(Triax: 160 miles)

 

 

Comments
From wheakory on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 23:14:08

Paul, I'm sure this was an encouraging on the way to recovery. I really need to do this sort of workout leading up to my potential marathon on November 4th. Not yet sure how to train for it yet.

From Nick on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 01:25:42

That is a great workout! Your really fit right now and I think that your are going to be in a great position come OTQ's. Do you know how fast NY is in realtion to St. George (barring any weather variance)?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 09:07:21

Nick - I expect NY to be about 3 minutes slower than a flat, sea level course (like Chicago), and 5-6 minutes slower than St. George. I think if I run under 2:25 it will be a pretty good race for me, although I have decided I am not even going to wear a watch. It will definitely be an XC-style race!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

noon - 5 easy miles to the Planet Walk from work. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 394 miles)

PM - 7 miles on the River Trail. Got rained and sleeted on, and hit the snow line at only 5000'. Time to wax up the skis. 7:30/mile average pace.

(Hardrock: 103 miles)

Kind of funny side story for today: I was listening to a podcast interview by TheFinalSprint.com with Peter Gilmore this afternoon at work, and I was caught a little off-guard when my name got dropped in the middle of the interview. This is not totally random, as I write for the website, and they have been publicizing my OTQ, but still kind of freaky to me. Then Gilmore proceeded to call me a chump and said that he was going to beat me up in the parking lot after Trials. No not really. Actually the context was more like, "One of our staff writers just qualified for Trials with a pretty slow time compared to you. Do you have any tips for him and guys like him on how to stick with it, get sponsors, and become as good as you?" It was interesting.

Gilmore is definitely one of those guys that I can try to emulate, along with Brian Sell. He was not blazing fast when he started, but has worked extraordinarily hard and has taken some hard knocks along the way, but things have turned out well for him. Gilmore and Sell are definitely guys I will be rooting for at trials because of that.

The podcast is here, by the way.

Comments
From Cody on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 22:36:29

You are famous. Those podcasts reach almost 20 people across the US! No really, that is cool! You will have to talk to him in New York and network to get the cool sponsors.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 22:48:13

After he beats me up in the parking lot, I may ask about getting tips for sponsors.

From Cody on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 22:54:20

Yeah, wait until after the race to talk to him, that way he is too tired to work you over too much.

From Scott Zincone on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 23:15:49

Cody's idea is a good one. We always say at work take your time going to a fight. Then you only have to fight the winner and he should be tired.

Of course if we really handled it that way we might get into some trouble.

From Jon on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 23:46:27

Man, I thought it was good that the local bank teller recognied me. We have one of the top runners in the US talking about Paul by name!!! That is awesome! You should go up to him at the starting line before the race and introduce yourself. Then draft off him for 15 miles.

From Maria on Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 12:37:30

Paul, you're becoming a celebrity :). There is also an article about you in the Journal Review: http://www.journalreview.com/articles/2007/10/15/sports/02marathon.txt

I found it through the link on eliterunning.com - which has pretty big readership - so the word is spreading!

From Stacy on Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 20:45:56

I'll be rooting for Paul Petersen and Logan Fielding at the Trials.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.000.000.000.0012.00

noon - easy 5.5 miles on the Landfill Loop. Didn't wear watch. My left calf is finally close to 100%.

(1120: 328 miles)

PM - easy 6.5 miles on Canal Trail out-and-back. 7:03/mile average pace.

(Triax: 166 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 21:52:50

That is a nice article in the journal review. You deserve the publicity.

From Jon on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:39:10

I didn't know that you didn't start cross country until your junior year- that was the same year I started (after stopping soccer, not tennis)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.500.000.000.000.0012.50

noon - easy run from work on the Planet Walk. It was surprisingly warm out today. Kept the pace as slow as I could; didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 399 miles)

PM - easy 7.5-mile run on the Providence Loop. I tried to run as slow as I could today, which turned out to be 7:11/mile average pace. It felt like 9-minute pace. This is a good sign. Everything is feeling very smooth, and I think I'm just about recovered.

(1120: 335 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.000.000.000.000.0015.00

What a cold, rainy awful day today. For those who need it, here is today's motivational photo:

Now get out there and get your miles in.

PM - I ended up lucking out on the weather. We drove to Ogden in the early afternoon, where I met Logan and James. The plan was a 15-mile progression run on rolling hills. Logan picked the perfect course; it was VERY rolling. We started near 7-minute pace and worked our way down to 6-minute pace by the end. This was my longest run since St. George, but it felt okay. Weather was perfect too: cool, not raining, and not windy. 6:28/mile average pace.

(Triax: 181 miles)

Afterward, Stacy and I continued down to SLC, where I picked up some shoes and equipment at Wasatch Running, and then we went to the USATF LDR Dinner at the Alta Club. I had not been to any of the USATF dinners before, and was glad I went this time. The people were fun, the food was good, and pretty much everyone won several drawing prizes. I won a SLC 5K tech shirt (which is actually pretty nice), and (yet) another night stay at the Alta Peruvian Lodge. We now have accumulated 3 free nights at the Peruvian. Now all I need is some powder.

Comments
From Jon on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 13:04:04

Bad link on the photo?

From Stacy on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 13:08:54

Hmmm...yeah, I don't find a broken link icon very inspiring.

From Cody on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 13:14:06

Didn't work for me. I did do a right click and view image though to see it. Go Logan!

From Jon on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 13:56:48

Works now. Way to go, Logan.

From Superfly on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 14:50:50

Great Photo. I saw that on the STGM web page. You guys are looking strong with your training building into trials. Keep up the good work.

From Mik'L on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 22:47:16

And check out the fast running blog crowd and sign in the back! My bro-in-law is in the green with the video camera (pointed the wrong way of course) and then we are all next to him...I can see Sarah and Lybi screaming! You can't miss Lybi's huge sign next to the Alltel sign either!

From James on Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 14:35:37

Thanks for inviting me on that run yesterday, it was a good run for me. I'm glad you had fun at the dinner!

From Logan on Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 20:26:30

Thanks for the run. Sorry I pushed the pace a little bit. See you Wednesday at 5.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 08:45:10

Logan, the pace was fine. We just like giving you a hard time! :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

AM - easy 5 miles on Planet Walk and with dog. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 404 miles)

PM - easy 5 miles on River Heights loop and with dog. Beautiful afternoon. I ran as slow as I could. 7:55/mile average pace.

(1120: 344 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

For anyone who is interested, I have posted my own course map and profile for the Olympic Marathon Trials on my personal blog. Click here.

noon - easy 5 miles on Planet Walk from work. Didn't wear watch.

(Elite: 5 miles)

PM - easy 5 miles, some random loop. Felt great, light and bouncy. I think one horse started neighing or at least whimpering a little bit. 6:33/mile average pace.

(Triax: 186 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 13:45:42

I am trying to use the picture from the St. George Marathon website for the side picture. It comes in all blurry. How did you get the picture to be so clear a couple days ago?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 14:06:50

Logan - just go to my 10-20-07 blog, right-click on the photo, and "save as". That will save the full-resolution photo. Then you will probably want to resize it so that the width is only 2" and it fits properly into the side bar template. Otherwise the blog will resize and downsample it for you, which makes it look not very nice. You can resize it with Paint or Photoshop.

From Wildbull on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 17:23:59

Good article about you paul. great job! http://www.journalreview.com/articles/2007/10/15/sports/02marathon.txt

From Stacy on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 20:38:12

That's some pretty fancy mapping. Can't wait to actually see it for myself.

From Bethany on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 20:59:16

Nice to see you for a minute. Nice facial hair BTW. What does stacy think?

From Jon on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 21:16:06

Is that 1000 ft up and 1000 ft down at NY? Very hilly, indeed.

Were you running down canyon road near the USU water center at ~5:45?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 21:35:44

Jon - no, it's twice that. +/-1900 feet. Very very hilly indeed. No, I stuck to the west side this evening. It must have been a clone.

Bethany - Stacy tolerates my beard.

From Stacy on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 21:38:34

Bethany--I more than tolerate it at this point. I only have to tolerate it when it starts getting longer (this is pretty much an every winter kind of thing).

From Stacy on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 21:39:41

Hmmm...there's only one way that we can post three minutes apart. Double computer action tonight!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

noon - ran an out-and-back on Canyon Rd. I wanted to run on the canal trail, but it was blocked off and under construction. At the end of the run, I did 8x20-second hill surges up the Boulevard Hill, with 40 seconds recovery on the way back down. They felt pretty good.

(Adrenaline blue: 410 miles)

PM - 4 miles easy on Planet Walk. No watch.

(1120: 348 miles)

Yet another 9+ hour day at work today. This has been going on since St. George. I know a lot of Americans work 50 hrs/week, but I'm not into it. In terms of running, I would prefer to work 35 hrs/week or so. My schedule is flexible, but ebbs and flows with clients and workload. When a client needs something, I must perform immediately and efficiently. When a client doesn't need anything, I can go take a nap or go skiing. Unfortunately I am insanely busy right now, so I am working when I should be napping. At least I'm "only" running 80 mpw, rather than 100, and I'm getting a good 8 hrs of sleep at night, so it could be worse. But it could also be better.

Comments
From Lybi on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 16:13:32

Hey Paul, can you help me figure this out?

About the Canyonlands Half in March...you and Stacy are going, right? I assume that as an elite guy they will give you some major perks--maybe free entry (and guaranteed entry!). What I'm wondering is if you are part of our little FRB group (don't worry we can use a gender nuetral name!) would they let us all in with you? There probably won't be more than 8 or so even with you and Stacy, I think.

From Michelle on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 16:21:17

Oh sounds like (Lybi) you are maybe on to something! Clyde I think was going to run too. So maybe we will need two teams, maybe not?) But just let me know what has been decided!

From Michael on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 16:22:58

Paul - was nice talking to you at the Circuit Dinner - congrats on another award. Interesting map - I used to be the GIS specialist for the Forest Service. Good luck to you in New York - we will be rooting for you. Hey I ran more miles than you today (eleven - alot for me) - thats a first that Im sure doesnt happen often

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 17:03:53

Lybi - I doubt Canyonlands will go for something like that. They usually don't do anything to bring in runners. However, the lottery is not nearly as hard as St. George's, and the vast majority of people get in.

From Stacy on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 20:44:06

Paul--as far as work goes, I think you should just cut back on the hours. I understand that your work ebbs and flows, but it's not like you get paid for the overtime. At least until the Trials you should do whatever is going to help your running. Work will be there when you get back, but the Trials won't be there for another four years.

From Scott Zincone on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:32:39

Paul, this may be a once in a life time oppurtunity. So take it while you can. And I'm not talking about running in the trials. I talking about your wife telling you to cut back at work. I wish my wife would tell me to work less just once. Of course I don't do a lot as it is.

From James on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:56:25

Listen to your wife!

From Brent on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 22:06:45

Paul, great personal web site of yours. Like your bag of quotes. I am impressed with you mapping the trials course and hills. I agree, prior running of the course would be best, virtual running as you are doing has to help. Do you know if the trials will be on TV? time channel. Best to you at the trials. We will be cheering you on.

From marci on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 22:17:03

Good luck and watch out your wife might pass you up soon!

From Jon on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 23:16:41

Paul- I can sympathize on the work thing. But you have to pay the bills, so unfortunately we don't always have a choice, eh? But I did get up to 96 miles this year even with my commute, so I know you can keep your mileage up till Trials (partly cause you do your mileage about 30% faster than I do). Good luck and keep up the naps. Only 2 more weeks!

From Jon on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 23:20:13

I do agree that working extra hours stink and I really don't understand why so many people seem to enjoy it. I work to pay the bills, but most of my enjoyment comes from home, running, etc.

From jtshad on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 09:41:01

Long work hours are not my idea of fun either. The last week and a half I have been putting in 12 hour days...ugh! I will be glad when this audit is done. I was luck to squeeze in 49 miles. I agree with Jon, work is what I do to have a life, it is not how I define my life. I would rather be known as a family man and runner who happens to work as well than the other way around.

From Jon on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 09:56:51

What is the audit for? How long is it lasting? I know you have written about it for a few weeks.

From jtshad on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:00:14

We are verifying the implementation of the INL Integrated Safety Management System (ISMS). Basically, does the contractor have a work control system in place that focuses on safely performing the workscope assigned.

From James on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 15:14:26

Hey, at least you guys get paid for your long hours!

From jtshad on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 15:17:05

I am a salary man, so these hours are "time on" awards for me as expectations of my management. I will likely get a triffle and a mention in the Managers all employees message as a thank you.

From Jon on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 15:51:16

No overtime pay, unfortunately. I wouldn't mind OT as much, if it was paid.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 16:09:10

Fortunately my whole company is paid hourly, so I get paid for my "extra" efforts (no such thing as "overtime" though). If I don't want to work, I just don't get paid, it's that simple. So things can get scary if there's nothing to do, but on the other hand I can take as much time off as I want, work my own hours, and miss work without any guilt, because I'm not on salary.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.003.000.000.0015.00

Big Workout today with Logan. We did 4x200m strides on the track to warm up (35s each), and then did a 4x4-minute fartlek @ CV pace with 2 minutes recovery on the Millville Hill Loop. I told Logan he would probably hate me by the last interval, because those hills at the end are a bear.

 IntervalDistance
Pace 
Comment
1
 0.77 mi
 5:12/milegentle uphill
 2 0.78 mi
 5:07/mile rolling
 3 0.78 mi
 5:09/mile half down, half up
 4 0.67 mi
 5:56/mile big big uphill

I felt pretty good and had a good workout. My stomach was churning a little by the end, and I had to find a VPB in the woods in Providence on the way back, but was better after that. It got dark on us, so we had to slow it down quite a bit the last couple miles for the sake of footing (not that I minded slowing down). 6:32/mile average pace for the run. 

(Elite: 20 miles

 

Comments
From Ruthie on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 23:03:59

I'm going out to Calvin on Nov. 14 for a campus visit to meet the people and such. Any suggestions on stuff to do there or people in particular to meet (besides XC people)?

From Logan on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 23:13:08

Thanks again for the run. Hopefully dinner got you refueled and ready to go for the rest of the week.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 23:21:01

Ruth - cool! All the XC people will be really wired and excited that week, because Nationals is that Saturday. In fact, they will probably fly out on the 15th, so hopefully you can meet people before they leave.

As far as non-running people to meet...hmmm...probably just talk to as many people in your department of interest as you can. Most professors are pretty friendly. You may want to talk to the track coaches (Coach Kim, Zylstra, etc.), and hopefully you can meet some 400-800 runners. If you can get off-campus and check out downtown GR, there is stuff to do there. There are some really good clubs and music venues if you are interested in music. It's a big town (~500,000 in the metro area), so there's a fair amount to see and do.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 23:21:28

Logan - thanks again for coming up. It's always awesome running with you.

From Ruthie on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 23:36:03

I'm so excited! I've contacted Nancy Meyer about it and they won't be leaving for Nationals until the next day, so that'll be fun! Will the track coaches be on campus then so I can talk with/meet them?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

noon - easy 5 from work on the Planet Walk. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 415 miles)

PM - easy 5, some random route. Stopped by the gym and weighed myself (129 lbs). Finished up with a lap on the grass around the LHS fields. 7:04/mile average pace.

(1120: 353 miles)

Comments
From ipoopinthewoods on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 16:08:23

Hey, after seeing so many of your sites devoted to running I thought, "Hey I can do that" so now I'm going to keep two logs. this will allow me to spy on more people. and fill my idle time with more running junk! What is "Planet walk"?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 16:18:25

Hey annie, welcome aboard! This is a really good site with lots of great people. I have expanded my running network 10-fold. Now I have free places to stay whenever I travel. Since it is blog also "forces" you to write more and think more about your run and how you felt.

I like your blog name. So true.

By the way, there is a guy who ran with Keith at Western Boone who just joined the Blog. I think he would have been in your class. Small world, err...blogosphere.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 16:23:52

Oh, the Planet Walk is a paved trail along the river near my house. It's flat, shaded, and no cars, so I gravitate toward there quite often. We call it the Planet Walk because last year a school class of kids mounted a bunch of plaques in the ground, one for each planet in our solar system, and also the Sun. The plaques are in relative distance from the "sun". No Pluto, though, which ticks me off.

From wheakory on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 17:04:31

Paul, how many miles do you plan to cut back this week and the final week of your training?

From Stacy on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 19:44:06

Annie--I like to call it the Planet Run. But then, I'm always looking for ways to make my running seem more like a game. Planet Run sounds more fun than Planet Walk, in a Sci-Fi nerd kind of way.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 20:30:36

Kory - I am doing 80 miles this week, and then about 30 miles + the marathon next week (close to 60 miles total). It's not a huge taper, but I figure I already tapered a few weeks ago for St. George. It's more about maintaining right now.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

noon - easy 5 from work on Planet Walk. Did 8x100m strides in the middle. Didn't wear watch.

(Triax: 191 miles)

PM - went to the chiropractor in Hyrum, and then did an easy run nearby on Hollow Rd. I forgot my watch, so no time. Bummer. I'll just make something up: 6:51/mile. I also forgot to change my shoes, so my rotation got messed up. I feel kind of weird from having to run in the same pair of shoes twice in a row. Hopefully my head will not explode or anything.

(Triax: 196 miles

Comments
From Brent on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:41:30

Paul, you head won't explode, your feet will be mad. Better get your feet glad before the big race. Good luck again.

From Cody on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:47:31

I would bet your time was 6:57 not 6:51 you cheater. Giving yourself too much credit. Ha. Just call me the pace police.

Are you running in Ogden again tomorrow? I want some company for a run. What is everyone doing?

From Logan on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 22:03:45

James and I are doing 15 miles in Ogden tomorrow if anyone would like to join us. We are meeting at 11.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 22:33:08

Cody - no Ogden for me; I have to work tomorrow, so will probably be running about 15 miles around here. I am thinking about going up Center Street to Dry Canyon, to Millville Canyon along Deerfence, and then back along the TOU course. If you're around and want to run, let me know.

From Cody on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 22:42:20

Logan-

I am sick of traveling. The thought of driving even to Ogden makes me shudder. Thanks anyway.

Paul-

I was hoping for something a bit easier, but I am always willing to try. I will be willing to go anytime between 8 and 10. If that works, let me know and I will meet you at your place.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:23:53

Cody - let's shoot for 9AM.

From Cody on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:36:12

I will be there.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.000.000.000.000.0015.00

Big Workout today. Cody and I started from my house, ran up Center St. to Dry Canyon, then took the Bonneville Shoreline Trail to Millville Canyon, and back to my house along the Top of Utah Marathon course. The idea was to progress from 7:00 pace for 5 miles, to 6:30 for 5 miles, to 6:00 for 5 miles. The route is very hilly. It starts around 4500' and climbs to about 5100' at the mouth of Dry Canyon. From there to Millville Canyon, there are numerous rolling hills, with a peak at 5250', not to mention poor footing. From Millville Canyon, there is a nice downhill, and then small rolling hills to the end.

We had to run by effort and feel to hit our "pace", rather than looking at actual pace, since the hills throw it off so much. Splits were slow, well over 7-minutes, but the effort was there. I had a lot of trouble today with footing on the trail, especially the downhills, but worked the uphills pretty hard. We finally hit pavement again at about the 8-mile mark, and I was actually quite happy about it, even though I usually prefer dirt. From there on in, it was easy to hit the proper pace. We did a couple 6:20 miles on the downhill to finish off the "6:30-effort" segment. Unfortunately, Cody's IT band seemed to be awry, so we separated ways on the last 5 miles. I hit 5:55, 5:50, 5:56, 5:53: 6:04 on this stretch to finish off the run, and everything felt pretty good. It was a beautiful sunny morning, in the upper 30s at the beginning of our run and 50s by the end. Gotta love Utah this time of year!

6:50/mile average pace for the run.

(1120: 368 miles)

Comments
From annie on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 13:25:51

Nice work today... And felt all big and tough to be ahead of you this morning on the mileage board! (just kidding)

From James on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 18:02:11

Missed you today but it sounds like you had a good workout yourself. Did you make it over to see any of the WAC meet?

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 18:05:49

James - no I didn't get over for the XC meet. But I'm thinking it would be fun to go down to Ogden in two weeks to watch Regionals.

From James on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 18:34:27

That does sound fun, we should go watch them. I had no idea that Regionals were in Utah, let alone Ogden this year. I saw on the WAC website that Seth Wold won overall and Utah Sate men got their third title. It must have been a fast course because the times were all screaming! Seth won with a 23:16!

From Jon on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 18:37:59

When do you fly out for NYC?

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 18:41:23

Jon - we fly out Thursday morning.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.500.000.000.000.004.50

Took a tremendous afternoon nap, and then did an easy run on the Planet Walk and then some with the dog. Not a bad way to start the week.

(Adrenaline blue: 420 miles)

Comments
From Michael on Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 21:28:03

Have a great race in New York. Hope you get your best race in ever and have alot of fun too. Keep that smile on during the race. The bloggers are rooting for you

From jtshad on Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 09:07:23

Good luck in NY! Have safe travels and a great time in the Big Apple.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.000.002.000.000.0014.00

AM - 5 miles, easy. No watch.

(Triax: 201 miles)

PM - last speed workout of the year. It was an easy one, 2x1600m @ CV pace, with 800m rest. I warmed up  by running out to the USU track (3.25 miles), and then started the workout. I hit 4:59 for each of the intervals. Both intervals started slow, for some reason, with a 76-77s lap. Not sure what that means. I felt pretty good, but nothing special. Cooled down back to my house, and did 8x100m strides on the way. 6:22/mile average pace for the run.

Time to taper! 

(Tangent

Comments
From James W on Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 20:16:16

Woohoo! I will be watching the entire marathon on nbcsports.com! Good workout.

From josse on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:09:24

I didn't realize the Olymic trails were so soon. Good luck and have fun!

From annie on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:59:54

are you getting excited, nervous, or are remaining charateristically even-keel?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:18:05

Thanks everyone.

Annie - I am probably more nervous about the technical meeting/lunch on Friday than the race itself. It's going to freak me out seeing so many famous runners in street clothes. What if one them sits next to me??! :0 ;-)

I'm not really nervous yet. I've been thinking about logistics and travel more than anything. I do think about and envision the race during my runs! Watching various internet videos and making my course map have helped me envision Central Park and the hills a bit.

I think the race will take care of itself, like most races. You train, you form a baseline strategy, you adapt the strategy to race-time conditions and what other people do, and you run. Hard. Basically I'm going to stay patient and make whatever moves my body can give after 16 miles. If I'm in 120th place at 10 miles, big deal. But if I have my legs under me with 10 miles to go, I think I can pass a large portion of the field.

From Annie on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:01:38

Alrighty, so even-keel as usual. Seeing famous runners in street clothes is weird. It's weirder when they do normal stuff, like laugh;) J/K But honestly what it is that makes that so weird? Please if you know your # soon let me know. No biggie though if they wait until the dinner (which I'm guessing they will) to give it to you.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:22:35

I think just seeing these guys on TV, podcasts, flotrak, etc builds an aura around them. In reality, they're just like the rest of us, except they get paid to train!

From Annie on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 13:59:26

There is. But they're like us also in the fact that many of them have to work 9-5 as well. Jim Jurchevic ran Detroit with me. He owns a shoe store in Columbus and in essesnce sponsors himself. He was very cool. no nonsense definitely!

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 14:32:28

Paul - some food for thought. Adjusting for the course difficulty, the difference between you and Khannouchi in his best shape is only about 14 minutes. That would be about the gap you have on Chad, Jeff Shadley, Ted, James Barnes, and everybody who is slower. Khannouchi in his best shape should have no more aura around him for you than you do for Jeff, Ted, Chad, and James, and definitely anybody else who is slower than them, which would make not only the majority of the runners in general, but even the majority of the men who run the marathon under 3:00.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
1.500.000.000.000.001.50

This makes my trip to Denver that much sweeter:

Packers 19, Denver 13

A little YouTube clip for everyone's enjoyment:

On to running. I'll try to give a little bit more detail to what I'm doing and thinking over these next several days. This afternoon my boss and I are flying to Denver for a meeting tomorrow. Obviously traveling like this before a big race is not ideal, but Denver is a very easy flight (1-hr), plus I will not have to do any driving, so can just sit back and nap.

I am essentially taking today "off". I slept in until almost 8AM, then jogged around the block with the dog this morning, and will jog another mile or so this evening in Denver, just to shake out the flight. Wednesday will be 8-9 miles, Thursday will be 5-6 miles, and Friday will be 3 miles.

I get back to SLC from Denver around 6PM tomorrow (unless we catch an earlier flight). Rather than waste time and energy driving home (1.5 hours), and then driving back to SLC in the morning, Stacy is going to pick me up at the airport, and we will be staying with Mike K for the night. This makes our 9AM flight on Thursday very very easy, plus I will be able to get a run in before I leave without having to get up early. I think with proper napping, hydration, and diet, the travel will not take much out of me. I think most of "travel fatigue" may just be related to dehydration and poor eating. I've run well after business trips in the past, so am not too concerned.

The hardest part about Trials isn't just the race, but also the logistics. There is sooo much to do: check-in, chiropractic, massage, pick up per diem money, technical meetings, fluid bottle drop-off, course tours, shuttle around to and fro, etc., not to mention getting in my nap! I ended up making an hour-by-hour daily schedule spreadsheet that lays out when and where I need to be places. Doing this made my head stop spinning, and definitely made me feel a lot better and more organized going into this big weekend in a huge, unfamiliar city. I suppose if I could run 6 or 8 minutes faster, I would have an agent doing all this for me, but now it's up to me!

PM - ate dinner, and got into our hotel a little bit before 9PM. I went for an easy 1 mile run in the dark, just to shake the legs out. Felt pretty good. It is a very warm night here in Denver. Shorts and a t-shirt were comfortable.

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:51:31

Paul,

It looks like you have a pretty good plan. Just in case you are too busy to blog for awhile I just want to wish you the best. I hope you enjoy the experience and have a blast. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us. I know I will be excited to hear the results and read your blog when you get back.

From jtshad on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 12:11:11

I want to echo Ted's note above and wish you the best of luck and most of all hope you have the time of your life!

From Sean on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 12:43:35

Paul,

A group of guys from the Northwest are getting together Friday morning to do one 5-mile loop around central park. Nothing fast. Just a normal easy run, but let me know if you or Logan or anyone else would like to join us. It will be good to get a feel for the loop. Cell phone is 425-922-5844.

Hope to see you in NYC.

From Jon on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 18:28:45

Ya know, I've been happy for you each week as the Packers have won. But not this week. I can't believe my Broncos lost last night. First the Rockies, now the Broncos. Is there no love in the world???

Go kick some major elite butt in NYC! And we expect a blog race report within 30 minutes of when you finish! (just kidding)

From Cody on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 22:29:48

I have complete faith in your ability to execute. You have paid your dues and you are ready to roll. I will be watching every moment of the race from the luxury of my house, but just know that the blog (especially the Logan chapter) is cheering for you.

Wow, that was kind of mushy. Very uncharacteristic of me. Errr. 'Grunt' 'Burp' 'scratch'

Thats better.

From Bethany on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 23:05:42

Another good luck cheer from the Draper household. We will be glued to the TV/internet. You can do it!!!

PS, So it takes making it to the Olympic trials to get some love from Cody...good to know.

From Dustin on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 23:17:15

I'm with Jon on this one as another Colorado native it has been a tough sports week.

But more importantly best of luck at the trails. You have really been an inspiration for many of us on the blog.

I'm confident you will have a great race and a great time.

From Clay on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 14:00:44

Best of luck paul, you are inspiration to me and alot of other runners, and I look for you to do very well at the race.

Take care.

From Mik'L on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 20:04:40

Good luck Paul! You already made it and that's amazing enough, but I know you'll do great. Enjoy it and remember everything so you can post the longest race report ever since half the guys on the blog will be living vicariously through you on Saturday!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.000.000.008.00

Got up early before my meeting and did an easy 8 miles in the dark through the mean streets of Westminster, CO. Thank goodness for Garmins during travel. 7:10/mile average pace.

I leave for New York at 9AM tomorrow morning. We'll arrive around 5PM EST. Probably won't have time for much in the evening, but will just settle in and eat dinner after we get there.

(Elite: 29 miles)

Comments
From Chad on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 22:32:17

Have a safe trip, Paul. You've got a lot of folks rooting for you.

From wheakory on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 23:37:27

Paul your going to excel in the race. You've done the training and God will honor you for your hard work. You will be in my prayers.

Runners World has some great articles, video and training for the upcoming event Saturday.

From James on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 13:44:31

Good luck buddy!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.500.000.000.000.005.50

AM - ran 5 miles in SLC with Mike K. at 6AM. 7:06/mile pace. I felt really good.

PM - a quick half mile on the treadmill at the hotel after my chiro adjustment to shake a little bit of the travel out of me.

(Elite: 34 miles)

Today was a long travel day. Fortunately, we did not have to get up too early, thanks to Mike's hospitality (and great pancakes too). We made our 8:50AM flight to CIN no problem, no delays, likewise for our 3PM flight to NY. Upon arriving in NY, we were greeted by a NYRR volunteer, who took us to a transport van after we got our luggage. At first it was just Stacy and I, but then we picked up what felt like 20 more runners at another terminal. It was tight, but fortunately we were all very very skinny. Talked to James McGown most of the ride, which consisted of several near crashes. I am sooo glad I do not live in NY, and also very glad I do not have to drive anywhere!

Everyone I've met has been very nice, and I've already bumped into several other former D-III runners that I ran against back in the day. I also bumped into Shane Clinger, who is Hobie Call's "agent", but haven't seen Hobie yet. Apparently he is on the same floor as me. I think the Culpeppers are on our floor as well, as I've seen Shayne walking around a bit. Made idle chit-chat with Mbarak Hussein, who is an extremely nice guy, on the elevator.

So it's been fun. I'm already really enjoying it, and being in this environment. I feel pretty relaxed, and am getting over the whole "famous runner aura" thing I was talking about the other day. We're all just here to race.

I was not able to get my bib and chip tonight, but I think I am Bib #36. Not certain on that though. I was able to pick up my other "goodie stuff". More importantly, I got a killer chiro adjustment that was probably one of the best I've ever had. I guess these guys in NYC are pros! After that, I am feeling quite loose. I am tired from travel, but the legs and core feel good.

The only thing left to do tonight is eat. Speaking of which, time to go!

Comments
From steve ash on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 19:14:35

That is exactly what you should do, Just enjoy the experience and have fun.

From Superfly on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 20:44:10

I'm so jealous right now. I want to be right there on your floor just cruising around seeing all the big dogs. Try to stay loose on Friday, and I know you'll do great. Here is an after the race hint. If your into cheese cake at all. If you follow the road that runs from the starting line to central park there is a hotel called Park Central (Mik'L and I said there) on the left hand side of the street. Right across the street from that hotel is a little cheese cake place that is to die for- and a must for someone visiting NYC.

Anyways enough of my little advice stuff. Have fun and remember we are cheering for you.

From MichelleL on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 23:14:36

Good luck! I hope to be able to watch the webcast, so drop us a line if your bib number changes!

From wheakory on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 23:37:07

Good Luck Paul, and your in my prayers. Just have fun, and you are famous.

From David on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 00:04:16

Sounds fun Paul, glad you made it alright. Remember: Yankees suck.

From Adam RW on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 08:05:35

I have to second Superfly, "J-E-A-L-O-U-S." Enjoy it and have a great time tomorrow!

From Dave Holt on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:04:53

All I could think of is how jealous I am of you. I think I would be too much in awe to even run! But you earned it and are right there man. Good luck, have fun, suck it all in, and then go out and do your thing!

From jtshad on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:32:12

Soak it up my friend. What an experience...stay loose and have fun. I am praying for you to have the time of your life.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
3.500.000.000.000.003.50

Got up at 7AM, ate breakfast with Stacy at the hotel restaurant, and then checked in my uniform (can't have any advertising) and got my bib and chip. My bib number is indeed #36, as I had thought.

Afterward, Logan came by, and the two of us walked over to Central Park (about 3/4 mile), and toured the course. We ran the first three miles, and then walked the last two, then jogged back to the hotel for 3.5 total. The course is indeed rolling, but I don't think it will be too bad, especially coming from Utah. I think the hard part will be the repetition, just the same hills over and over and over. It will definitely wear down people over time. The road surface should be quite fast though, and weather at least won't be hot.

We had a technical meeting/lunch at noon. We all loaded on buses at 11:15, and it took us 40 minutes to go about 2.5 miles. This is why I will never live in NYC. It is amusing for a weekend, but that's about it for me. Not that I should complain too much, but the host hotel is not close to anything race-related. The start line, finish line, and various banquet sites are all several miles away and take over half an hour to shuttle to, depending on traffic (which is always bad). Oh well. Mind you, I am very happy just to be here, but just wish I could maximize my time better. All the time driving around has basically cheated me out of my nap, which makes me cranky.

The lunch itself was good. Logan and I found Sean, so had our FastRunningBlog seating section, along with about 6 other guys I didn't know (besides Kyle Baker, who I sort of "know" from racing in MI). After an hour of eating (wish it had been only 30 minutes), they did the technical meeting, which also lasted an hour (wish it had been only 30 minutes). So we were back on the bus a little after 2PM, and back to the hotel around 2:50PM. After that I went up and got my per diem money, and then back downstairs to get a final tune-up massage/stretching session. The therapist turned out to be Tom Nohilly, who was an elite steeplechaser and contemporary with my college coach Brian Diemer. He knew Diemer well. Small world.

The only other task for today is dropping off my fluid bottles. I am only doing 2 or 3 bottles (we can do 10 max), as I did not feel they really helped me at all during St. George. In fact, it was a bit of a distraction, but I'll do a couple anyway.

Interesting notes and observations from the technical meeting:

  • Brian Sell is now my favorite to win, based on the fact he has a really sweet mustache.
  • Peter Gilmore has the same Keen street shoes as me. They are the "Bronx" model, which is appropriate for this weekend.
  • There will be a timing mat for every 5K, plus half marathon and other key points. Since it is a multi-lap course, we will go over a mat 52 times. The mats will be spaced anywhere between 400m and 1300m, due just to how the course lays out. The end result will be a stat junkie's dream. Sasha, this is your chance to get the data you've always wanted.

I was 95% sure I am not going to wear a watch, and the mat thing brings this up to 100%. That's right, I'm running "naked". I can see no good reason to wear a watch at this point, seeing as to how time does not matter. And since all my splits are recorded for me, all a watch will do at this point is distract me. I imagine I will miss most of the mile markers anyway. I want to get into a "XC mentality" for this race.

Weather is uncertain at this point, but latest reports showed a 35% chance of rain, and also a possibility of strong gusty winds. Of course I would prefer prefect weather, but since time doesn't matter, I really don't care what the weather brings.

In any case, I plan to tuck into the back of the slowest pack for the first bit of the race, move up as needed to stay with "the right pack", and draft off of a big block of bodies. I am not concerned about my placing for the first half of the race, as the last 10 miles should be plenty of time to move up, throw surges, and pick off those who went out too hard or are having bad races. The key is patience and staying within my window, rather than getting pulled into someone else's race. I have to ability to finish marathons strong and hard, and hope to use this to place in the Top 35. I look forward to just being out there and running with so many talented runners.


Comments
From Andy on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:22:20

Good luck. I can't wait to read all about the race tomorrow.

From Annie on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:30:30

Fun stuff! Will be watching #36!

From kim on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:32:14

How do we go about watching this?

From Annie on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:41:32

WWW.NBCsports.com is going to flocast the entire race!

From Mik'L on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:46:43

Good luck tomorrow Paul! You will do great! I told Stacy to cheer extra loud for all of us FRB who wish we were there!

From Cody on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 15:56:29

For those interested in tracking Paul, Logan, Sean or any others go to the following website to set up e-mail alerts for every 5K

http://alertsignup.nyrr.org/Alerts.aspx

From Aaron on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 16:12:22

All I can say is, if I'm enjoying your OT caper this much, you lot must be through the roof. That post-Trials nap will be a thing of beauty.

From Jed Burton on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 17:02:58

Can't wait to watch you tomorrow, Paul. It sounds like you're already in your groove and ready to rock this thing. Best of luck to you.

From Lyman on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 17:30:26

Thanks for keeping us up to date with all the details. It really gives the rest of us FRBs a chance to experience the Trials with a unique insight.

I've got say that I've read you SGM report a couple of times. It really gets me in the right mind set for achieving my own running goals.

Thanks again to your contribution to the blog. Good luck!

From josse on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 17:58:28

I'll be watching for the streaker.

From James W on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 18:57:55

For those of us on Arizona (or Pacific) time, we will be getting up at the insane hour of 4:30 AM to watch the live webcast of the entire marathon. I will be looking for you, Sean and Logan, and trying to stay awake. Good luck!

From Superfly on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 19:06:46

Sounds like a good race plan. I think if you can follow it you'll have a very good race. I'm not that big of a NYC fan. It's o.k for a couple days. However, my favorite part of that place is Central Park. It just had this ora to it. So anyways you'll be spending the best part of your trip in the best place.

Have a good race.

From Jon on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 21:26:58

Run naked, run naked, run naked! Good luck!

I do have to say, I hope your race report tomorrow is not as long proportionately as today's blog (3.5 mile run, 85 line report- yes, I counted- would result in a 636 line race report. Not including warm up and cool down.) If it is, I'm sure it will be a new record and crush Sasha's longest entry ever.

From wheakory on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 00:26:17

Great strategy Paul for you dream race. I like the fact that your not worried about your time, and just going how you feel.

From James on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 00:26:43

I don't mind if it is long, however, it might take me a while to read it all. I think you can get top 30 tomorrow. I know you won't see this until you are done with the marathon, but kick some trash!

Race: Olympic Marathon Trials (26.2 Miles) 02:22:34, Place overall: 53
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.3026.200.000.000.0026.50

What a day. I will write a full report tomorrow. I'll just say right now that I am very pleased with my performance, both placing (the important part) and time. Top 35 was my "top tier" goal, but I was quite happy with a hard-fought 53rd. There is no way I could have run faster, and was really happy with my time on a tough course and windy day. It was a thrill to run and compete in this field, and even more thrilling to pick people off the whole second half and run my race to my utmost. The last 15K was difficult, and I slowed a bit, but managed to fight hard and not hit the Wall.

I heard rumors of someone having a heart attack during the race when I was at the finish line, but did not learn the full details until a hour after the race. The whole Trials field is reeling from the death of Ryan Shay, and it hits really hard. A lot of people here knew him really well. I can't imagine what his wife and family are going through, but my own feeling of sorrow is large, and I didn't even know the guy. Let's give our prayers for his wife and family.

On to the race report...

Logan spent the night in our room and we had a slumber party. The slumber party entailed going to bed at 8:45PM (that 6:45PM Utah time) and getting up at 4:55AM. It took me well over an hour to fall completely asleep, and then I started waking up by 3:30AM because I was so geared up. But it was a restful night, as good as any pre-race sleep.

I ate a banana in my room and then grabbed a quick bagel downstairs in the hospitality suite. Then we loaded the bus. I didn't really notice anything about the bus ride, just ate my bagel and drank all my water. We got to Rockefeller Plaza at about 6AM, so had an hour and a half to blow off and get ready. We hung out indoors until 7:05AM. I managed to use the bathroom 5 times, which makes it a 5-star race, a good sign of things to come. Everyone seemed pretty calm, and it was interesting to be in the same pre-race room with EVERYONE. I made it a game-time decision whether or not wear my sleeves (the latest running craze), but when we saw Ritz putting his on, Logan and I decided that it was indeed "cool."

We finally moved outside to the start line and had half an hour to warm up (strides, etc.). Ironically, there were three portapots for everyone to share. I couldn't believe it. We were treated like kings for three days, and then get three portapots on race day. Oh well. It ended up working out fine, I just kind of expected a personal portapot for every runner. ;-)

It was weird; it was still kind of dark out, but the place was so lit with the TV cameras and city lights. A weird sensation. At about 7:20AM I was totally ready to go. Just start the darn race already. There were a lot of spectators there. Someone called my name as I was stretching out. I looked around, and it was my Coach Priebe from high school!! I could not believe it; I had not seen or talked to him in over 10 years! His son, and my former teammate, Scott was there as well. All that definitely put a smile on face.

Finally, the race was ready to start. They started counting down: 2-minutes, 1-minute, boom! The gun actually came a little sooner than I expected, but I lined up in the very back, so had no problems getting out efficiently. Watching the TV footage of the start later in the day, I could easily pick myself out bringing up the rear. Right where I wanted to be.

I found Logan pretty quickly, and we ran through Times Square together. This is one of the most memorable parts of the race. This was my first time ever in Times Square, and I happened to be running the biggest race of my life. The lights and visuals were amazing, and I enjoyed the effect while running with the pack. Logan and I and a couple other runners traded some jokes back and forth. The race was still early enough to make jokes.

Part of the reason it was easy to make jokes was that we got out incredibly slow. I did not see any mile markers until Mile 3. The clock there said "16:40", and I thought it was 5K at first. "Not a bad pace, 5:20/mile", I thought. Then we went through the 5K clock, and it said something like "17:05". That is very slow, more like 5:30/mile. We were all still very bunched up. Apparently the leaders were running tactical, not too surprising, I guess.

At 5K I was still near the back, but not quite sure where. The pack was so big and so fluid. I would pass people where it was efficient to do so (to fill gaps), and people were also passing me on the outside lanes. I felt like I was part of a living river of runners, churning and boiling. I could not see packs formed yet, just the river of runners. It was very much like XC nationals. And after 5K, the rapids started.

I actually can't remember a lot of precise details of the race. With doing 5 laps in the park, a lot of things blur together, and I can't remember who I was with, when I was with them, or where I did certain things. I general the west side of the course (which I call the "homestretch") was harder than the east side (the "backstretch"). I think there was more uphill on the homestretch, plus the 20+ mph winds were coming out of the north, so we got general headwind on the homestretch and tailwind (plus the "easier" hills) on the backstretch. I did not think the hills were that bad at any point, but definitely preferred the backstretch. No hill was that long or that high, there were just a ton of them, and they were relentless. But that is why I trained on my Millville Hill Loop all summer. Nothing is as bad as that loop.

Back to the race. Things heated up after 5K. A pack finally formed (probably the 3rd "chase" pack at this point, although all we were chasing was the 2nd pack), and I stayed in the back of the pack so that I got draft, run efficiently, and hit tangents. There were many twists and turns, so tangents and elbow-space were both very important. As gaps formed, I would move up, but tried to stay in the same general position, close to the runners immediately in front me. Even though the wind speed at the start was 22 mph. I did not feel it at all while running in packs. Plus I think the trees of Central Park helped diffuse it a ton. The wind during the race was nothing even remote close to the winds we faced this year at the Great Salt Lake Half or a couple years ago at the Canyonlands Half Marathon. It surely made an impact to those running solo, but was sporadic rather than steady, and only affect the homestretch, so runners did not have to deal with it non-stop.

I keep getting off track. Back to the actual race (again). My pack hit the 10K in 33:25, so the last 5K split was 16:16. Our overall pace had increased from over 5:30/mile to under 5:25/mile. This is more like it. I felt comfortable and stayed put.

The crowds were amazing, by the way. The bleacher section was deafening and the jumbo-trons were really cool. I could look up and see the leaders on the jumbo-tron, cool stuff, ha ha. The back stretch had a ton of spectators too, and lots of people were running back and forth for 10+ viewings. I heard lots of "Go Petersen!", thanks to having my name on my singlet. I though it was cool that many of the spectators were cheering for all runners, and it was encouraging to hear my name called by total strangers who were out there enjoying the race and supporting the runners.

15K split was 49:55, so 16:30 for the last 5K. Doing the mental math, I figured this was just under 16:40/5K average, so right around 5:20 average pace now. In some ways this was a little fast for me, but I was with the pack I needed to be with, and was feeling very very comfortable, conversation-pace even, although no one wanted to talk to me. I could definitely feel the loss of elevation in my breathing. This was my first sea level race in over 6 years, so was not sure what to expect in that regard, but so far so good.

20K split in 1:06:25, so another 16:30 5K split. I thought at the time, "20K, now that's kind of a cool distance." Maybe I will find a good 20K to run next year. There is a good one in New Haven, Conn.

Soon after the 20K clock, came the Half Marathon. The clock said "1:09:59" when I passed the mat, but my official splits (I had emailed to me) say "1:10:01". Splitting hairs here, but I'll take the sub-1:10! In reality, it took me a few seconds to cross the start line, so I lost a little time there at the beginning of the race. In any case, I was averaging exactly 5:20/mile here, and on pace for a 2:20. This seemed kind of fast, but again, I felt really good and that I could keep sustaining this pace longer.

After the Half Marathon, things got to be even more of a blur. The 3rd chase pack I was with had been steadily closing on the 2nd chase pack, and it was cool to see them slowly coming back to us. However, after the Half mark, I dropped a little bit from the rear of our pack, but also both packs appeared to string out and disintegrate. Now it was every man for himself.

This also meant that I had to deal with the wind on my own, but like I said above, it was not nearly as bad as it cool have been. At no time during the race did I think negative thoughts about the wind. I'm not going to say it was a non-factor, because it was there...but it was a non-factor. :-)

They had timing clocks all over the course, but after the Half, the times became meaningless to me. I don't know what 25K, 30K, etc. means in the context of a marathon, and I did not put forth the effort to do mental math at that point. Fortunately for the sake of this entry, I can refer back to my official splits, but at the time I did not pay them much attention.Rather, all my focus went into catching people and keeping my own pace strong. Indeed, people were finally starting to fall back, one-by-one.

25K split was 1:22:56, so another 16:30-ish 5K. 30K split was 1:40:20, so 17:24 for 5K. Not sure what happened here. I managed to form some mini-packs with one or two other people, as I had the chance. Often, I would catch someone, hang with them for a minute or two to regroup, and then move up and on. I felt very comfortable at times, but at other times I could feel the fatigue starting in my calves. Breathing was still very easy though, thanks to ample oxygen found at sea level.

I wanted to wait until about 18 miles (or 30K) before I started making a strong move, if possible. I knew the alternative was that I would feel bad and just try to hang on for dear life. The reality was somewhere in the middle. I was definitely feeling weaker at that point, but did not think I would hit the wall. I could tell I was slowing, but didn't worry about and kept trying to reel people in. I was moving slower, but there were plenty of people at this point who were moving much slower than me! Ducks in a row... Also, people were starting to drop out. I saw Hobie walking on the backstretch, just after Mile 18. Other people were walking here and there too. I passed a few people with very high bib numbers, practically crawling. Looking at the results later, I think a lot of those people ended up dropping out. There were 26 total DNF's.

35K split was 1:57:37, so 17:17 for the last 5K. Again, I had no perception of this during the race, I am only calculating these splits now, after the fact. All I knew at the time was that I hurt, but had less than 5 miles to go. I knew I had a good race going, place-wise, and even a decent time, which would be icing on the cake. Someone shouted to me and the guy right ahead of me "62 and 63!" This was the first and only report of placing I heard the entire race, and it came well after Mile 20.

People were coming back faster and faster over the last 7K, and I probably caught another 6 people the last lap. Mostly at this point I was just thinking about finishing as hard as a could and making myself hurt. In other words, "leave it on the 'track'", to borrow a track and field expression. 40K in 2:15:07, so 17:30 for the last 5K.

Just over a mile to go now, and there are several people in front of me to pass. Passed a sign that said "1 mile to go". Then another sign that said "800m to go". Then another signed that said "400m to go". I passed a guy right in here, and began kicking hard to discourage him from trying to stay with me. "200m to go". I was loving the signs. It was an uphill finish, and I looked ugly on the last 200m (or at least felt ugly), but it did the trick. Final time was 2:22:34. From my glances at the clocks late in the race, I knew that I could get close to the "B" standard, and was happy to run this time on a tough course. So icing on the cake.

I like to run negative splits, but this was not to be that kind of race for me today. I put myself in position where I needed to be the first half, got some fatigue the second half, but managed to grind out a solid second half and pass probably 20 people or so, despite not "flying". A guy who did "fly" the second half was James Lander (St. George winner from last year). I passed him before the Half, but then he came roaring past me with about 8K left, and ended up in 40th place. I think he may have negative-splitted. The only other guy to pass me during the last Half of the race was some Hansons runner, a little bit after Lander went by. Other than that, no one, so I was happy with that. I don't like getting passed.

I did not find out my place until a hour later, when I talked to Dave Nelson on the phone while I was sitting on the bus. I was happy with 53rd. It is the upper 40th percentile, and gives me a lot of confidence for the future.

I know this is once again a very long report, but this blog is as much a journal to help retain my own memories as it is a "public thing". It was definitely a memorable weekend, and a great racing experience.

It looks like my next race will be the Houston Half Marathon, on Jan 13. I have the chance to participate in the USATF Developmental Thingy, so will get comps and financial support to go out and run the USATF Half Marathon Championships. This is where Ryan Hall broke the American Record last year, so I know it is a fast course! I don't know a goal yet, maybe 1:06:00 or so? I'm sure Sasha will tell me within 15 seconds what I will run, so I will just do whatever he says. ;-)

Oh, regarding the Sasha-science type analysis, I haven't completely thought it over, but I imagine the Trials course is about 3 minutes slower than a Chicago or London or Berlin, especially with the wind factored in. Maybe up to 4 minutes, but 3 sounds reasonable. We had perfect temperatures, and the road surface itself was quite fast, but there is no disputing the hills. Hall had an absolutely amazing performance, and I think he is capable of 2:05-ish on a fast course. Winning by 2 minutes in this field says it all. Looking at my time, I do feel that it exceeds my St. George performance, and is the best marathon I have run.

Comments
From Michael on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 22:19:25

Well I get to be the first to give you congratulations for your tremendous effort. Im happy for you that you did your best and had a great performance. Congrats on having a great running year - keep smiling.

Thats quite shocking about the Ryan Shay death - quite a loss.

From Brent on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 22:20:12

Congradulations - what a race you ran on a very tough course and day. I watched the race on the internet, the uphill portions looked brutal. Congads again, can not wait to hear the full story.

From Cory on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 22:49:42

I've been following your blog since May before the Ogden Marathon.

You've truly inspired me and my efforts to become a better runner.

Congratulations on an excellent effort and performance at the Trials. Obviously, most of us will never have the opportunity to experience something like this. Thank you for sharely your thoughts and experiences with us.

I've enjoyed it tremendously!

cnb

From Lybi on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 23:19:04

Great job Paul! Way to win some respect for St. George qualifiers with your strong placing! Especially impressive that you did this so close to St. George...almost like it had been just a training run for today. Can't imagine what it was like to hunt down Olympic trials guys and pass 'em.

P.S. I reserve the right to comment AGAIN once you've posted the full report. :)

From Chris Rogers on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 23:19:15

Paul,

Congrats on an outstanding race. Considering the course and conditions, I believe that this is probably the best race you have ever run--including your 2:18 at St. George. While the time at SGM may have been faster, to compete so well on the biggest stage in the country is an unbelievable accomplishment.

From Chad on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 01:22:15

I'm fighting to find more kind words that I haven't already heaped on you in a dozen prior comments for past races. So I'll add something different: I hope the LetsRun haters followed your race so they can see that you're for real "even though" you qualified at St. George. I agree with Chris R. that this race is a better performance than the 2:18, all things considered. Sasha science would probably put you at 2:17?

From Chad on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 01:23:21

I do want to add one more thing . . . you just rocked the Olympic Trials!

From ArmyRunner on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 09:32:44

Awesome report and thanks for sharing. I agree with you and others that this performance is better than your SGM performance. Let's wait and see what Sasha Science says it is always interesting.

From josse on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:14:24

Great performance! I loved reading your race report, it could have been pages and I wouldn't have minded. I am so happy you had an awsome experience.

One in a million :)

From cody on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:35:11

What an experience! I am pretty sure I saw you at the start too (on TV). You ran a smart race and got to lay it all out there. You must be on cloud nine right now. If not, you should be because that was awesome. I look forward to watching you tear up the national scene next year. Well done!

From Kim on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 11:43:56

I love that this blog also serves as a journal. Thanks for letting us read your journal! It is an awesome read!

From Annie on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 11:52:50

CONGRATULATIONS ON AN EXCELLENT RACE

From Superfly on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 13:02:29

Good job on a smart, well planned race. That time is amazing on that course. Even more impressive is that you did it one month after STGM. Just amazing. Your getting better by the month. That is cool about Housten. Good job man. I'm pumped for your future. Now give yourself a well needed rest.

From JohnK on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 13:43:24

Congrats on a really strong race and thanks for sharing your report. I'm not Sasha but I think you should aim for sub-1:05 at Houston!

From James on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 13:43:46

Amazing! I love what you have accomplished since we first me just over two years ago. You ran awesome! What a great experience, for you and all of your friends and family who were cheering you on. I wanted to call you yesterday, but figured I would let you be and bug you when you got home. Great race, great time, and way to represent your friends and family, the Blog, and the State of Utah. Your the man!!!

From steve ash on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 14:03:02

Nice solid performance Paul. Wish I could have seen it!

From Maria on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 15:30:18

Congratulations, Paul! Very impressive time on that course, definitely better performance than St. George. I raced in Central Park a lot, the longest race being half marathon, and it is not fast. There are couple of big hills, and several smaller ones. They do wear you out, especially 5 laps of them! All the best in Houston, you should do awesome!

From Mik'L on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 16:49:35

Great job Paul. What a smart race. Clyde and I are always talking about how smart you train and race and it has obviously paid off. With only one month after STGM, your time is even more amazing. Congrats. I'm sure there is only more to come! BTW, I am very envious of your NYC experience! What a cool way to see Times Square!

From jtshad on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 16:51:52

Paul, congratulations on a stellar race performance. It has been a true pleasure getting to know you since TOU 2005 and to see a friend at the OT and to perform so welll...it is just inspiring. You have tremendous talent and I look forward to seeing you take it to the next level yet!

From Jon on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 20:43:58

Great job, Paul. We are all very proud of you. Amazing race.

From Clay on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 23:40:53

Great job Paul we were well represented this weekend and I for one am very proud of you!!! Keep up the good work, your are an inspiration to many...

From dutch on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 09:14:07

way to be, pauly. i was extremely disappointed that work prevented me from coming up. i would have loved to cheer you on, but i suppose i was able to cheer remotely. what did you eat in celebration??

From Lulu on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:44:39

Congratulations on a truly great race. Thanks for posting a detailed report; it is a very interesting read. Maybe I'll see you in Houston -- I'm planning to be there.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 11:39:30

Excellent job Paul - you're well on your way!

From Jed Burton on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 12:26:59

Thanks for doing all of us Utah runners proud this weekend, Paul. Congrats on a truly impressive race and season as a whole. The fact that you did it all after coming back from a frustrating year of enduring the injury/recovery cycle makes it even more spectacular. Well done!

From Daniel on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:13:09

Great race! Keep up the good work.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:22:30

Paul - as I already mentioned on the phone, congratulations on a very solid race. You, Nick Schuetze, and James Lander defended my estimate that St. George is about 2:30 faster than a perfect record-eligible course, something that I know a lot of St. George skeptics would question vehemently. This also resolves the dispute of whether your Ogden performance was better than your St. George performance for the Top Runners listing, as this one is better than both of them according to Sasha Science. I have now updated the Top Runners list to reflect that.

Regarding Houston, I think 1:06 is about right. At least, that is what you would get if you divided the gap that Ryan Hall put on you in this race and added that to his time in the half marathon. The predictor says 2:19:34 converts to 1:06:56 for a 70 mile week guy, and to 1:07:16 for a 90 mile week guy. However, this is where I do not trust the predictor a whole lot. First, 2:19:34 ideal course equivalent may be too conservative of an adjustment, the actual value may need to be closer to 2:18:30, and second, my mileage adjustments for the slowdown between distances are not exceptionally trustworthy, although better than nothing.

I am, however, more convinced after this race that as hard as it may be to believe that your PR in St. George was underperformance (we always want to believe that a PR is a super-performance), you actually did underperform in St. George by about a minute. Probably due to the short sickness prior to the race. But it did not matter in the end, as you had enough of a buffer to get standard A, and now you have a better performance to your credit.

From Shauna on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:49:05

Congratulations! I loved reading your report. Keep it up!

From Cassandra on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 15:50:09

Awesome job Paul! Very inspiring indeed. I loved reading that you saw Coach Priebe - he has the kind of love for running that I am just now discovering. I mean, running is cool for competition and managing weight, but wow, a marathon! So very proud of you. Do you still play guitar? I know, randomness.

From RivertonPaul on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 17:41:36

Excellent job!

Many have probably seen it already, but here is a photo of paul:

http://eliterunning.com/photos/index.php?g2_itemId=103082

From jtshad on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 18:09:51

Here is another pic of Paul, at the finish:

From jtshad on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 18:10:29

Accidentally pushed Post, go to marathonguide.com and look at the trials photos.

From Nick on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 18:56:53

YESSS Paul! That is incredible that you had the opportunity to run this race! Your splits also show that you ran really smart - something that I can really learn from. I guarantee you have a lot more potential in you so keep up the hard/smart training and you are going places man! Congratulations on an awesome finish time!

From MichelleL on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 19:00:09

Thanks so much for the detailed report, Paul. Your race was awesome, you left it on the track for sure. And congratulations on being able to participate in the developmental program. I am sure that will be a great experience for you, and for us, as we'll be able to follow your progress!

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 17:22:05 from 64.81.245.109

Bump to get it to the hot discussions. Marathoner #53 in the nation is hot.

From RivertonPaul on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 17:33:58 from 67.42.27.114

bump.

From Superfly on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 17:36:58 from 209.33.210.52

Wow!

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 17:55:00 from 64.81.245.109

Guys - a bump is effective if no comment has been made in the last two months, or if you have not commented already. To make Hot Discussions you need to win on the number of commenters among the entries that have been commented on in the last two months.

From redrooster on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 17:58:29 from 129.123.3.31

Paul is my hero

From RivertonPaul on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 18:09:50 from 67.42.27.114

My mistake, I thought you were asking us to bump this thread.

From josse on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 21:17:40 from 70.192.149.14

OH I get it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.001.501.50

I am recovering better than after St. George, in terms of muscle wear-and-tear and soreness. I think St. George is just harder on the body due to the downhill. I did not run today, but walked with Stacy over to the gym, where I did about 15 minutes on the elliptical easy. I also did a few weights and chin-ups, but nothing strenuous. I will start running again on Thursday, but will just do elliptical until then.

Thanks everyone for the nice comments and links to photos of the race. They have posted 5K splits for all runners here. There is much fun to be had if you copy and paste the whole split table into Excel. Then you can sort by split to see how people moved up and down as the race progressed. Here is how my placing changed during the race:

 SplitPlace
 5k 98th
 10k 98th
 15k 84th
 20k 89th
 Half Marathon
 90th
 25k 87th
 30k 78th
 35k 62nd
 40k 55th
 Marathon 53rd

Using this I know now that I "passed" 37 people during the second half of the race, although this is inflated a bit due to people dropping out. When I factor out people like Abdi, Culpepper, Gilmore, Hussein, etc., it is more like 20 people, which is close to my original estimate. "Passing" someone who has dropped out is like a walk in baseball; it does not count as an "at bat". So that's fun with spreadsheets for today. 


Comments
From Adam RW on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 01:36:13

That's a great way to look at the race. You did a great job and I look forward to what consistent training will bring you over the next 4-yrs!

From James on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 20:02:32

Logan stole all of the spot-light.

http://eliterunning.com/photos/index.php?g2_itemId=103082

From Randy on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 22:10:29

Congrats on a great performance Paul!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.001.501.50

Another day at the gym. I spun easy on the elliptical for 15 minutes, and also did some core work and weights. Recovery is going quite well. I have some soreness in the calves, but that's about it.

I watched a great Ryan Hall video tonight. What a great testimony. Click here to watch. 

Comments
From James on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 00:44:24

Nice photo!

From wheakory on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 01:01:30

Great video Paul very inspiring. That's what life is about. Everything we do must point to Jesus.

From Sean on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 09:40:32

Great clip. Very focused with utmost purpose....not to mention crazy splits

From jtshad on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 10:21:56

Paul, thanks for the link to the video link. This is a daily struggle to maintain my focus on him, most days I fail...but I think I am closer to God when I do run and this helps me at least keep that focus during the other trials and tribulations in my life. As Ryan indicated in the message, making running "his" god failed, but praising God through his running and with his faith brings him strength to go on...this is where I strive to be on a daily basis and why running has become such a big part of my life.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. My soreness is gone for the most part, except when I do the TP Massage Ball on my calves. They are quite tender still.

It's nice not to run for a few days. I'm a big believer in bracketing large training cycles with time off. The physical component of healing and refreshment is important, but even more important of me is the mental aspect of refreshment and warding off burnout. Perhaps a stronger mind can take it, but I can't. A break in my routine is a good thing, and also makes me hungry to run again after a few days. I probably won't do another marathon until next October, so it's time to get ready for long (hopefully uninterrupted) stretch of training.

Comments
From MichelleL on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 22:29:37

Love that picture! Going for the mountain man look? Thanks for posting.

From James on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 23:43:52

I agree with your time off. I think the rest is important and I always feel ready to go again with in the week. Avoiding burnout is huge, especially at the level where you are running right now.

Do you want to go watch the Western Regionals this weekend?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 17:30:00

James - going to regions sounds fun, but I'm a little burnt out on travel right now. I'm tempted though.

From James on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 17:57:51

I understand. If you want to come down to Willard I will drive to Ogden. Maybe Logan and Cody would want to go to. Let me know, you can email or call me too. Hope the time off and recovery is a nice break for you.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.500.000.000.000.004.50

Easy 4.5 miles on the Planet Walk and with the dog. I've missed the ol' P.W. It felt good to run again. My left calf isn't quite all the way there, but in general everything is feeling good.

(Triax: 206 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 09:17:46

Looks like recovery is going quite well with you.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.000.000.000.000.006.00

Who is running Moab? Who needs a place to stay??

David Nelson and I are in the process of reserving some cool cabins, just south of Moab (near the LaSalle Mnts) for the weekend of the race (March 8). Cost will be $40-$75 per person, per night, depending on numbers. Not KOA prices, I know, but these cabins are really nice. Let me know via email or this blog if you want in. We will make reservations by next week.

noon- went for an easy 6-miler along the canal trail to First Dam and back. Didn't wear watch. Everything feels good. I'm looking forward to resuming normal training next week.

(Elite: 44 miles)

Comments
From Jon on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 20:03:58

What is your marathon next Oct? No Ogden?

From Mik'L on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 20:14:48

I think Clyde and I are going to Moab. We stayed in some nice cabins south of Moab in September, I wonder if they are the same. Anyway, I think we would like to get in on these.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 20:16:14

Jon - Everything is speculative right now, but I want to do Twin Cities. I will probably do the U.S 25K Championships in Michigan as my peak spring race instead of a marathon, and work it in a part of a vacation to see family out there. I figure as long as I am going down to sea level anyway, I should get a race in.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 20:17:05

Mik'l - we'll count you in. How many brurgers will you each eat? 3? 4?

From Jon on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 20:19:57

Give at least 5 for Clyde

From dutch on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 21:21:35

whoa--you didn't say anything about brurgers...count me in!

Paul, I need to establish when we are drilling a certain hole in Savannah, GA. If it doesn't coincide, I'm absolutely going to run this race (and ski the corn for a bit afterwards. Dave, you in?)

will let you know asap

From dutch on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 21:23:53

Oh--and I have a hookup near Moab where we could stay for free. Brian Mcmullen lives there now and would love if we stayed there for a night or two. Something to think about...

From Ruthie on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 21:58:21

How cold is it in Michigan this time of year? Will I need cold-weather running gear?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 22:01:34

Ruth - Michigan can be cold this time of year. Although with global warming these days, it's hard to predict. Definitely bring your running pants, long sleeves, and gloves. Probably hat too just in case.

From Cody on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 22:13:22

Bethany and I are leaning towards Moab over Boston due to budget restraints. Put us down for a probably. (assuming you are still planning on it, rather than Ben's hookup)

I showed Beth a picture of the Bruger (from your Marathon GIS blog) and she thinks she can handle two. Its a bet! Actually, she couldn't even look at it, it made her so sick.

From Lybi on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 22:29:22

Hey Paul--I'm doing Moab, and I think those cabins sound like a great deal! Are girls allowed? We are not sure if James will be coming.

By the way, Ruthie, you'd be wise to bring warm running gear for Michigan. I lived in Ann Arbor for a couple years--it is a little colder than Provo, but more prone to precipitation. If you are going furthur North, bring an eskimo suit!

And Paul, I never thought that I'd say this, but your current blog picture is even cooler than the one of Gil in the undies.

From Ruthie on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 22:32:48

Thanks - I'm leaving tomorrow!!!!

From Mik'L on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 13:33:34

Hey Paul, I was just talking to my dad who always reserves our condo/cabin in Moab every year. Are the cabins you are talking about Coyote Run? They are really nice, that's where we stayed this year. But just so you know, Rim Village is near there and are cheaper. They are decent condos too. We have stayed there a few times. Just FYI!

From Mik'L on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 13:34:06

Oh- and I was also wondering how many nights you are getting it for, one or two?

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:42:23

Mik'l - I don't know all the details actually, Dave Nelson is the one who found the cabins. We usually camp for the Moab race, so condos might be too much of a "jump up", and cabins are closer to what the spirit of the weekend is all about. (grilling meat over an open fire). I'm pretty sure we will just stay Friday and Saturday night.

Ben - it will make my day if you can come. Corn skiing sounds great. I'll politely pass on sleeping on your buddy's floor though. I doubt he wants 10 people over anyway.

Lybi - yes, girls are allowed, as long as they can handle the one brurger minimum.

From Stacy on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:50:18

Ben and Paul--corn skiing?

From Lybi on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:07:44

Bruger...minimum? Those two words just don't go together! But don't worry--I'll eat! I love brats.

From David on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 13:21:17

It's not Coyote Run, it's another group of cabins friends of mine stayed at last year after the race and raved about. The lottery opens this week so I'd like to make the reservation real soon. There are different sizes of cabins (sleep from 2-12 people, I'll check what's open then), so maybe we'll do a few rather than one big one. Good to hear so many people interested. Ben, get out here, I'll be on vacation that week also so we can ski and eat long breakfasts while these suckers work.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 16:26:58

Dave - perhaps the thing to do would be to reserve one bigger cabin. We can fill it with people who pay first (ie - 10-12 people), if there are extra people, or people who want their own cabin, but still want to stay with the group, they can make reservations on their own. And if we do not fill the cabin, then more room for the rest of us.

Are dogs allowed?

From Michelle on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 01:15:32

Um...Probably will have the husband and kids so we might want our own cabin.... you all might be greatfull for that too! Can someone give me the info and I can make us a resevation?

From Logan on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 13:42:23

I think Katey and I are planning on Moab as well. Hopefully their is enough room for everyone!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.500.000.000.000.008.50

I can't believe how warm it is. Shorts and t-shirt on Nov. 10; it's that crazy global warming. I went out to the River Trail and ran a little past Spring Hollow and back for an hour total. It came out to about 8.5 miles at 7:11/mile pace. The pace felt good, and I enjoyed the run.

(Hardrock: 112 miles)

Comments
From Stacy on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:48:13

It's not the weather, it's just that you're so hot!

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:50:22

Yeah, that's true. Al Gore never mentioned that fact.

From steve ash on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:25:54

Thanks Paul, You look awesome in that pic man. Really strong.

From Ruthie on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 00:31:58

Like a mountain man!

From Dennis on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:09:34

Thanks for the welcome. Yes, I did run with Adam at Knox for 3 years, and was actually crazy enough to live with him for one of those years.

Congrats on the trials!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

Planet Walk easy.

(Adrenaline blue: 425 miles

So...here I am sitting at home after church watching the Packers play the Vi-queens. Favre just threw his 2nd touchdown of the day, putting the Pack up 27-0. I am finally getting to the point of being able to relax and enjoy the game. "This could be a decent game after all," I thought to myself. After all, there is nothing better than a good ol' fashioned blowout. Then what? The blasted FOX network pulls the game, and switches over to the Eagle vs. the Redskins. Hello?? 27-0 is the mark of a good Packer game, how dare they? Plus every pass Favre throws is part of living history. Who do the Redskins have? Chris Cooley? I blew off some steam by taking my nap early in protest.


Comments
From Adam RW on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 14:16:16

Great pic. With the facial hair I think of Quentin Cassidy...

From Mike K on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 15:10:23

Thanks for grabbing my shirt Quentin. I think you look more like the great Finn Seppo Kaitainen. He had range from the mile to the marathon.

From Paul Ivory on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 19:35:18

Paul, thanks for you note about my BQ. You guys that run at the speed that you do are amazing. Enjoy it every year while you are young enough. You have many exciting years of running ahead of you.

Later, Paul I

From Annie on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 20:13:12

awesome picture of you! you look like a skinny version of grissley adams! seriously though very cool picture.

From annie on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 20:14:00

BTW my friends said they saw you a ton of times at the trials.... "Yeah, we saw that petersen guy you know. Man, he was flying."

From adam on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 15:50:33

Paul,

maybe fox figured that some of the teams that won't win the superbowl should get some air time. or maybe they thought the fight for highly prized third in the NFC east would be excitingly worth your time.

Either way, they were wrong and should be revoked their broadcasting priveldges for at least a week, forced to play packers highlight reels, fined a minimum of 200,000 dollars and/or be forced to publicly apologize while wearing a cheesehead.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
10.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Did the Providence Hill Loop from work. Felt very good, legs were snappy. Average pace 6:29/mile for the run.

(1120: 378 miles)

More details on the Moab cabins. They are better described as a "historic guest ranch". It is called Pack Creek Ranch, and the website is here.

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:32:17

Paul, I did some reading on how to improve VO2 with specific training and I read somewhere that 3 lbs of weight loss is worth 1 point added to your VO2max rating. Just fyi if your interested..

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:00:17

Steve - that is about what I calculated a while back. v02 = ml/kg/min. Say my oxygen uptake is 4L/min and I weigh 145lbs (what I weighed last year). My V02Max would be near 60, which corresponds to something like a 17:00 5K. If I lose 15 pounds (7 kg) and my O2 stays the same (4L/min), I would expect my V02Max to be a little under 68, and corresponding 5K performance to be around 15:30. I'm sure I'm over-simplifying, plus V02Max is not everything, but this is the sort of performance increase I saw myself when I dropped from 145 to 129. Either way, it's a fun little exercise to ponder, especially around Thanksgiving and the holidays! Personally, I don't need (or want) to lose any more weight, but it shows how much over-eating can slow me down.

From steve ashbaker on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 17:44:58

Frequent small meals? Do you take amino acids?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 17:51:20

Steve - I usually eat a normal-sized breakfast (oatmeal w/ brown sugar and honey), and then graze on my "lunch" from about 10AM to 3PM (consists of a couple pieces of fruit, a carrot, yogurt, and a couple PB&J sandwiches). Then I eat a pretty big dinner around 6:30PM, and a snack around 9PM. If I get up early to run, I'll have a granola bar or banana right before I run, followed by my normal breakfast after I run. So I usually don't go more than a couple hours without eating.

I took Amino Vital for a couple weeks, but other than that I have not taken amino acids. It didn't really make me feel any different. In general there aren't any supplements I swear by; it seems to me that one should be able to get everything in their normal diet. All I take is a multivitamin and 500 mg of Vitamin C for "insurance".

From annie on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 13:32:08

Wow, I am a fatty comparatively speaking. 5'6" and 122lbs. I constantly eat and I eat too much candy! Miki yelled at me before my 10k, because I ate 4 7 layer bars, two brownies, some choc. chip cookies, beef stew, homemade bread, homemade chicken pot pie... at that was just dinner.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.005.500.000.000.0011.50

Workout today: 20 minutes warmup, 30 minute tinman tempo, 20 minute cooldown, with 10x100m strides. I did the tempo on the North Logan - USU - Boulevard Loop. It was nasty rainy and windy out. I should have ran in the morning when it was nice, but waited until 2PM, which was a mistake. Win some and lose some, I guess.

MilePace
Comment
1 5:44rolling terrain; headwind
2 5:48 rolling terrain; headwind
3 5:38rolling terrain; tailwind
4 5:25flat; tailwind
55:36 flat/downhill
5.5
5:35
downhill

The tempo felt pretty good. I was annoyed with the wind and rain driving in my face and soaking my shirt, but knew I would turn out of it soon enough and get it at my back. Once I turned, the rain didn't feel too bad.

With the warmup and cooldown, the average pace for the run was 6:13/mile.

(Elite: 56 miles)

 

Comments
From Logan on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 09:38:02

Nice workout considering the elements!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.000.000.000.000.0013.00

AM - easy 4 miles. Cold out.

(Triax: 210 miles)

PM - easy 9 miles on Landfill Loop, via Planet Walk. 6:48/mile average pace.

(Triax: 219 miles

Comments
From James on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 18:51:04

Looks like you are recovered pretty good now. When do you leave for Thanks Giving?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 18:54:36

James - we fly out Friday afternoon and will there for a week.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.000.000.0013.50

AM - easy 4.5 miles on Planet Walk in the dark, plus a block with the dog. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 430 miles)

PM - easy 9 miles out onto the River Trail via the Canal Trail and back. 7:00/mile average pace.

(1120: 387 miles)

Comments
From James on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 14:19:38

Paul I don't know what your plans are for Moab, but if you are doing it, are you registering by yourself or are you doing the group thing? I noticed that there is already a FRB team so maybe we could make our own, like " Return of Giardia" or something like that. What do you think?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 15:39:03

James - I'll probably register as an individual.

From James on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 20:05:33

That is cool. I will have to see if I want to run or not.

From David on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 16:27:15

James --

I was talking to Ben about Moab, I think we should do a group. Let me know if you want me to set one up, or if you want to do it. I'll bring Giardia back.

Also, looks like we'll get a cabin at Pack Creek Ranch for 6. I'm posting this here because I figure more people read Paul's blog. At least three spots are spoken for, so if there's more than that interested another one should be booked.

From Cody on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 16:36:25

David

Bethany and I are interested in a cabin. Is there room in yours for us or should we book another one? We haven't registered for the race yet either but will soon.

From David on Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 12:37:25

Cody, I think we'll have room for you guys, I'll check with Paul/Ben again this week and let you know.

From James on Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 13:11:31

Dave,

I think that would be fun, why don't you do that and let us bring back Giardia. I am sure Jon would be for it as well. I don't know about the cabin yet, because I am not sure if Allison would want to come or not. Plan on me for the race though.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.004.000.000.0012.00

Workout. Ran some with the dog, then went on my real run. The workout today was a 7x3-minute LT fartlek, with 1:30 recovery. I warmed up for a mile and a half and then started the intervals on the Millville out-and-back route, which is fairly rolling.

 Interval Distance Pace  Comment 
 1  0.58 5:13/mile  flat
 2  0.55 5:26/mile  uphill 
 3  0.58 5:12/mile  rolling 
 4  0.58 5:10/mile  mostly downhill 
 5  0.55 5:27/mile  uphill
 6  0.61 4:57/mile  downhill 
 7  0.57 5:18/mile  uphill 

The workout went okay. The first couple felt a little rusty, but the last half was a bit better. It seems like I can run tempo runs well after a marathon, but faster intervals definitely don't feel as good. But it was good to get the speed in.

6:26/mile average pace.

Flew out to Indiana in the afternoon for the next 8 days. Sea-level running, here I come! Oh, and family too.

(Elite: 68 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

Longish run in Indiana today. In an effort of Blog Diplomacy, the Mountain Chapter of the FRB met with the Midwest Chapter of the FRB at Shades State Park. Only two of us showed up, but Trashcan Annie and I had a very enjoyable run together. We started on the trails of Shades, and wandered aimlessly through the leaf-ridden park 8-to-10 minutes/mile pace until we got sick of leaves, creek crossings, stepping on tree roots, and running so slow. So after 5 miles of trails we hit the roads. We crossed the Sugar Creek bridge (beautiful spot) and then climbed out of the valley and into some fine Hoosier farmland. It made me nostalgic to be there, as it is quite beautiful in its own way. Very few cars were out, which was nice. Once on the roads our pace dropped to the 6:40s, and then 6:30s and 6:20s by the end. Annie kept pushing the pace, but fortunately I was enjoying the ample oxygen and it felt really good. Or maybe she thought I was pushing the pace; it's always so hard to tell. I usually blame Logan for that kind of thing, but he wasn't around to take the heat this time. We ended up with 14 miles and an average pace of 7:14/mile, which was skewed by those 10-minute miles in the park. Beautiful day, and a good run with a good friend.

(Triax: 233 miles)

Comments
From Annie on Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 19:55:59

I swear it was all your fault. I did go ahead and add .5 onto my run after my run this morning (sunday). My hammy's took such a beating on those hills, I felt I needed to log in reguards to the beating and not actual mileage ;) hahahaha. Hey, not all of us can live in mountainous terrain! Some of us have to live in Northern Illinois! tee hee

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.500.000.000.000.004.50

Slow, easy distance on the roads of Brazil, IN. 7:20-ish/mile.

(Triax: 237 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.005.500.000.000.0011.50

Workout. 3-mile warmup, 5.5-mile tinman tempo, 3-minute cooldown, with 10x100m strides. Ran a nice loop near my parent's house in Brazil, IN. All miles on were small rolling hills.

 Mile  Split
 1  5:48
 2  5:40
 3  5:40
 4  5:36
 5  5:36
 5.5  5:39/mile pace

It was a decent workout. The first couple didn't feel that great, but I eventually warmed up a bit. 6:12/mile average pace for the run.

(Elite: 80 miles)

Later in the morning, we all drove over to watch D-I XC nationals. My parents only live about 10 minutes away from the course, so it seemed wasteful not go. I hadn't been to a XC meet since my own national meet my senior year (7 years ago). I definitely miss the aura and electricity of nationals, and the feeling of running on grass. I bumped into Nate Long, who was there to watch his wife (Weber State). Other than that, didn't see anyone I knew. I cheered for Pat Smyth (Notre Dame, 15th place), since he is a Utah boy, and also cheered for Seth Pilkington (Weber) and the BYU teams. The Liberty kid managed to hold off the Oregon dude for a fairly exciting finish, something like 29:20 or so. It looked like Oregon beat everyone pretty bad, but I never checked the final score. NAU looked strong as well. The women's race was less exciting, as the Texas Tech girl just crushed everyone. BYU had a pretty strong spread, but no one up front. The two Weber girls looked like they did pretty well, perhaps AA. Again, I didn't check the finals, so don't know who won team-wise. Anyway, it made for a more entertaining afternoon than just sitting around my parents' house watching TV.

 

Comments
From Adam RW on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 21:39:08

Cool race to get to watch on vacation. I've never made it to a DI Nationals...

From Annie on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 19:48:14

What'd ya think of my "home" course? It's a great specator course isn't it (as long as you don't sprain an ankle in the hay they grow there. HOwever, I'm guessing that was cut by now... it is nationals!)

From Paul on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:24:36

Definitely a great spectator course. I ran there back in '97 for our regional meet. It was snow- and mud-covered, and I ran awful, losing my spot on our national team. Lots of bad memories.

From MichelleL on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:27:50

What was the temperature for your tempo?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 16:40:47

Michelle - temperature was lovely, shorts and t-shirt weather. By "warmed up", I probably meant "body wakes up".

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
17.000.000.000.000.0017.00

AM - easy 13 miles, 7:01/mile pace. It is very warm today, shorts and t-shirt weather. Plus, it's quite humid, so I worked up quite a sweat. Tomorrow and thereafter it's supposed to get rainy and cold, so I decided to get some good mileage in while the weather is nice. I will probably do a few more later this afternoon.

I am reviewing the Garmin Forerunner 50, which is a foot pod/HR monitor combo, with a watch interface. The foot pod was pretty accurate without any extra calibration; I was getting readings of 0.99 miles for the 1-mile county blocks, every time. My HR hovered around 140 for the run. It has been a while since I've measured my heart rate.

(Triax: 250 miles)

PM - easy 4 miles around Forest Park in Brazil, IN. By the way, there are also towns in Indiana named Peru, Alexandria, Lebanon, and Santa Claus. It is truly an exotic state, as exhibited by numerous cars up on blocks, and large plastic Christmas yard decor. 7:09/mile pace. Ave HR 139.

(Triax: 254 miles)

Comments
From Cassandra on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 14:56:11

see you tomorrow!

From Daniel on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 15:30:00

You gotta love Indiana!

From Cody on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 15:30:24

My neighbor across the street should move to Indiana. They keep their "christmas deer" in their front yard year round. Very festive!

From Annie on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 19:51:44

Just for fun... do you like the Merrigoround decorations just east of your parents house on the southside of the road? Assuming the same people live there! I especially like it when people use those really fake looking plastic flowers in their gardens thinking they'll fool people, and then forget to take them up in the winter! That's great! I feel awful for stacey that she got bitten by dog

From Aaron on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:33:58

And who says Americans aren't worldly?? Ain't no Terra Haute, Lebanon, now, is there? (Though granted there is a Jabal al-Rafi', which means more or less the same thing...)

From Dave Holt on Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:47:06

Good stuff, good stuff!

Kind of reminds me of dogtown - the cars on blocks, fake flowers and such.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

AM - slept awful last night, but I felt ready to run when my alarm went off at 7AM. I went out and had a great 9-mile run, averaging 6:38/mile. Weather here is WARM, upper 60s and very high humidity. I was dripping sweat when I finished, even though it was dark when I started out. Indiana is definitely much different than Utah.

Speaking of which, here is today's entertaining Indiana-themed story. Near where my parents live, there is a BIG yearly festival called the Covered Bridge Festival. It is a big deal, tens of thousands of people go. It is essentially a big flea market. People love it. My parents ran into a woman from China this past year, and got to talking with her. They asked her what brought her to the Covered Bridge Festival, and she replied that she was there to "learn about the American Peasant." Hilarious.

PM - I did my own study of the American Peasant this afternoon, and ran through the inner-city shanty-town known as Brazil, IN. Usually I stick to the county roads outside of town because fewer people hurl curses at me, but I decided to chance it. I think one person did tell me to 'slow the ef down', but other than that the language was clean and locals indifferent to my presence. No one threw cans of snuff at my head either, always a bonus. Pace was a little quicker, about 6:20/mile for the run (harder to get hit that way), but I felt absolutely great. About like 6:45/mile effort in Utah. Gotta love the sea level thing.

Other highlights today include going to my old high school to give a talk about geo-sciences and careers to science students, and then to the track and xc teams about running. I'm sure all the runners thought I was nuts for the mileage I do, but if I knew then what I know now, I would have been All-State rather than some 'also-ran'. Also did some Blog diplomacy, and got to talk briefly to Cassandra. Not enough hours in the day to truly catch up with folks though. It was nice to see the old school again, though, as it had been about 8 years since I had last been back.

(Elite: 94 miles)

Oh, here's an interesting article about another Devine Racing mess:

http://www.thefinalsprint.com/2007/11/nearly-one-year-later-las-vegas-marathon-champions-have-not-been-paid/

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 17:52:55

You had to bring that up.. My blood pressure is going up already just reading the article.

From Daniel on Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 23:09:52

If I grew up in a small town (~550 people) in Indiana, does that make me an American peasant?

From David on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 02:38:18

Gold Bug should get back together to write a song called "American Peasant."

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:04:34

Daniel - no. If you spend all of your meager earnings on liquor, lottery tickets, and flea markets, that makes you an American Peasant.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 12:03:10

I hate that Devine is ruining these marathons. I have a dilema with Salt Lake - on one hand, I got comped in and need a Spring marathon and this one is pretty much the only one that fits in with track and location (I would much rather run Ogden - but it is during State); on the other hand, it disgusts me the way they treat runners and I want to boycott any event they put on.

From Jon on Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 08:29:03

You should write a travel brochure for Indiana!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

The weather front finally crashed in, and temps dropped to the 30s, bringing wind and snow flurries. After a warm week, not the most fun run this morning, but I got it in. Fought a head wind the whole way back. 6:54/mile average pace.

(Triax: 263 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:13:04

Sounds like you are having a great time visiting family and friends. Way to get out even with all the cold weather.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Easy 9 miles in Indianapolis.7:08/mile pace. Fly home today.

(Triax: 272 miles)

Comments
From Dave Holt on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 14:23:14

Get home safe.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.004.000.000.0012.00

Workout. I did a fartlek with 5x4-minutes @ LT, with 2 minutes recovery on the Young Ward-ICON Loop. Warmed up for about 4 miles at 6:35/mile pace (good sign), then started the workout at the turnoff to Young Ward.

IntervalDistance (miles)
Pace
1 0.775:11/mile
2 0.78
5:10/mile
3 0.77 5:13/mile
4 0.75 5:23/mile
5 0.77 5:11/mile

The first two intervals felt pretty good, but I think all the flying, driving, and holiday festivities of the past week took a bit out of me. I don't know what happened on the 4th interval, but the last interval went well.

(Elite: 106 miles)

In other news, I got my Houston entry and plane ticket squared away. I'm starting to get pretty excited for that. I'm thinking sub-1:06 should be possible.

Also, for those interested in getting cabins for the Moab Half, David has reserved a cabin for 6, and it is already full (me, Stacy, Dave, Cody, Beth, (kids??), Aaron). However, Dave inquired if there are any more open cabins, and there ARE. If you are interested in reserving a cabin, contact the Pack Creek Ranch. They are very nice cabins/houses in the La Salle Mnts. Rates are reasonable. There is a hot tub. It would be cool to have a cluster of FRB cabins. We can be like a cult or something. We just need more people and guns.

Comments
From Cody on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 14:40:45

I will bring my .22. It might take out a squirrel but that is about it. Oh, and the kids are with Grandma! So no worries there.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 14:52:30

A .22 is a good start. Thanks for the update on the kids. I forgot to ask earlier.

From Jon on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 21:21:41

When is Houston?

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 11:07:39

Jon - Houston is Jan 13. When are you coming back to Logan?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

Easy 5 miles: some with the dog, then over to my friend's house to feed their dogs, then back home, then to the Planet Walk.

(1120: 392 miles)

Comments
From dutch on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 09:31:08

hi pauly.

miss you.

ben

From Cassandra on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 13:00:38

hola!

it was nice to see you last wednesday. sorry i could not stay and talk - it was grandparents' day and i had to entertain, lol.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 14:15:34

Cassandra - yeah, I could smell the turkey and noodles. Grandparents always like that meal. Some things never change.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.505.500.000.000.0012.00

Workout. 20 minutes warmup, 30 minutes of tinman tempo, 20 minutes cooldown, with 10x100m strides. Once again, I did the North Logan-USU-Boulevard Loop, only I added a 1-mile out-and-back at the apex of the loop to put on some distance.

MileSplit Comment
1 5:30big downhill, then slight up
2 5:48mostly uphill
3 5:401/3 downhill; 2/3 uphill
4 5:382/3 downhill; 1/3 uphill
5 5:40rolling
5.5 5:21/mile pace
flat; ran with Seth

The tempo went pretty well. I bumped into Seth Wold on the last half mile, and he joined me for the remainder, which naturally sped things up a bit. Nice day to run today, about 40 degrees and sunny. 6:12/mile average pace for the run.

(Elite: 118 miles)

 

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 00:15:09

Paul, I have to say no, I won't be going to PF Changs afterall because of the expense. I'm sure you understand what I mean. If I could only get under 2:20!

From Lybi on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 12:22:34

Steve you are welcome to stay at our house for the weekend if you want to cut costs for PF Changs.

Paul, I just clicked on this really cool ad for Marathon GIS. I was looking for a map of the Canyonlands Half. Is there one in the works? Let me know if you do one! :)

From dutch on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 12:29:59

yeah paul, i'm planning on Moab. Will be signing up on the team David sets up. Any idea how long you'd want to stay down there? I'd like to kick it with my friend Brian for a day, and then come north for a day or two of skiing.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 12:40:25

Ben - we'll be down there for just Fri-Sat nights. You're welcome to carpool with us either direction.

Lybi - I created a map a long time ago for the Canyonlands Half, but it is not publicly available right now. I may redo it in preparation for my race there. If I do, I'll let you know.

From Jon on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 13:10:09

When is Houston?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 13:20:04

Jon - same as the last time you asked. ;-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

noon - 9.5 miles easy on the Providence Hill Loop. It was snowing for most of the run, but stopped near the end. I guess winter is finally here. 6:59/mile average pace.

(Triax: 282 miles)

PM - 4.5 miles easy, running to the gym, and then 20 minutes of treadmill at the gym. Slippery out.

(1120: 396 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 17:59:57

Paul, what pace do you try to stay at in your recovery work-outs, and is it hard for you to stay at that pace?

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 18:25:39

Kory - I usually run by feel, and do whatever feels easy for my body on that day. On a "good" day, it is as fast as 6:30/mile. On a "bad" day, it is more like 7:30/mile to 8:00/mile. On average, it's around 7:00/mile. I try to make my workouts hard enough that I really need the recovery, so no, it's not hard to stay at a slower pace on easy days! Not an issue. I have no bottom end; I will run as slow as I need to in order to recover. If it's 8-minute miles, then so be it.

From Stacy on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 19:56:39

Kory--he's not serious about not having a bottom end. We tried to run together to the gym a few weeks ago and he just started walking at my running pace. He was itching to go faster. He can't help it, speed is in his blood.

From Jon on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 20:09:10

Kory, I learned that I should usually only run with Paul on his easy to medium days, and it is fast enough for me. On tempo days, he smokes me. Sometimes his easy days seem easy to me, but often they are a good workout.

From wheakory on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 00:14:31

Jon, I can understand that. Paul is an exceptional runner and a wonderful guy, full of knowledge and has many wins in the future.

Lately I haven't had that fast step it seems since STG, and the Silicon Valley Marathon's. Right now I'm not sure what type of speed work to do to get back in the hard workouts. I thought about doing 5 mile tempos and 800's each week but I'm just not sure. Paul do you have any advice?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:10:25

Kory - I think you are due for a "reboot". Time to start a new training cycle and build a base. This will also help you mentally. You've done a lot of marathons in the last few months, and should do some easier aerobic mileage for a few months.

Try this: forget about intervals and hard tempos, and focus on building a very solid base for the spring and summer racing season. Keep most of your runs a nice, easy pace (based on how your body feels). Once a week, do a "slow tempo" within a run, of up to 6-8 miles. Pace should be about a minute slower than your 5K pace, probably no faster than 6:20/mile

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:19:25

oops...accidently hit "submit".

Anyway, tempo once/week at 6:20-6:30 pace or so. This should actually feel pretty relaxing, but does wonders for building aerobic endurance. If you are feeling good, you can do a second workout during the week, a fartlek. Something like 3-4 minutes hard, 2-3 minutes easy, no more than 5 intervals. Run these a little bit faster than half marathon pace, a little slower than 10K pace. You should NOT go anaerobic at any point. Run by feel, don't force anything. If you don't feel up for a fartlek, just do a second tempo run. All other runs should be pretty easy, 7:00/mile or slower. Incorporate 6-8x100m strides 2 or 3 times/week, preferably after the workouts. Just relax and enjoy the runs, and get in some good mileage. Run twice/day if you have the time, if not, don't sweat it. Start with about 65 miles/week and slowly build up to 80-85 by early spring. Increase mileage by no more than 10% every 2-3 weeks. Find a race every 3 weeks or so to keep yourself interested, but don't worry about tapering for any of them, and don't worry about actual performance. By March, you should have a great aerobic base, and be ready to do some serious marathon training.

During this base phase, you can also do some core work and light weights to build additional strength, stability, and injury-prevention.

From jtshad on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:43:19

Great advice, I have been thinking about my winter training program and may incoporate these ideas as well.

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 08:37:17

Kory, I recommend you read some training theory by John Kellogg. You can find him under the training advice section of Lets Run.com. It basically says what Paul just told you but with an explanation also of why you should cycle your training. It will open your eyes I'm telling you, Read it!

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 08:43:36

Arthur Lydiard would also be good to study with some modifications of course.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.000.000.0013.50

AM - easy 4.5 miles, just around. Still slippery out, so kept it very slow, no sudden movements. 8:05/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 435 miles)

PM - easy 9 miles. Took the canal trail, and then came back on the First Dam Run 10K course. 7:10/mile average pace.

(Elite: 127 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:42:56

The snow has finally arrived! How much do you guys have on the roads up in Logan?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:57:23

Logan - just a dusting. Enough to make things slippery, but I'm sure it will all melt by this afternoon.

From wheakory on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 16:13:18

Pocatello, was covered with snow the this morning so I was real careful on turns. I did almost slip once on the last mile so I slowed my pace down. Nice careful run Paul.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.000.000.000.009.00

Easy 9 miles from work on the Landfill Loop via Planet Walk. 7:08/mile average pace.

(Triax: 291 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 00:35:24

Are you enjoying the cold weather? We need to get together for a run soon before the weather gets too bad outside.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 09:49:27

Logan - no, I wish it was 80 degrees. Once the FRB Team really takes off and Sasha builds us a winter training complex in St. George, I will probably relocate for winters.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.500.004.000.000.0011.50

Workout. 10x2-minute LT fartlek with 1 minute recovery. Ran it on the Millville out-and-back route, so rolling hills. Warmed up for 2.5 miles, then started the workout.

IntervalDistance (mi)
Pace (min/mile)
1 0.39 5:09
2 0.385:22
3 0.405:04
4 0.38 5:21
5 0.405:05
6 0.385:15
7 0.39 5:08
80.385:18
9 0.405:04
10 0.39
5:10

Variance in pace usually corresponded with uphill vs. downhill. This was a pretty good workout, and didn't feel too hard. Harder workouts will resume next week...

(Elite: 139 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 18:24:42

Nice workout Paul. Your splits are very consistent. Your an amazing speed machine. Thank you again for your training advice.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.500.000.000.000.0014.50

Ran to the end of the single track of the River Trail and back from my house. I met Jon at the trail head, so got in about 6 of the miles with him, which made it better. There was about 3 inches of snow on the trail, so the going was slower and harder. I felt kind of tired from yesterday, and was glad to be done with the run.

It has now been 4 weeks since Trials, and I should be adequately recovered enough to do some harder training again in preparation for Houston. 100-110 miles/week is on order for the month of December. Should be interesting, as I've never tried to train this much over the winter. But I'm willing to do whatever it takes to reach the next level, snow or no snow.

(Triax: 306 miles)

Comments
From Stacy on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 15:00:52

Well, I'm going to miss you on your 100 mile winter weeks, but it'll be worth it.

From Logan on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 21:34:30

You will benefit from it and I would love to come up for a couple long runs on the weekends if you need someone to keep you company.

From David on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 00:29:20

Winter, schminter. What else are you going to do, watch the Aggies? You'll get the miles.

From Jon on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 00:33:43

At least he is watching the Packers rather than the Broncos...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
5.000.000.000.000.005.00

Interesting news for 2012 Olympic Trials: the standards just got a lot tougher. Also, no more St. George (or other downhill courses). I've blogged about it HERE, for anyone who cares.

Easy 5 miles with dog and on Planet Walk. Didn't wear watch. Roads and sidewalks were very icy.

(Adrenaline blue: 440 miles)

Comments
From James W on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 23:37:05

I just posted a comment on your blog. I saw this article as well, and thought, "well that is pretty cool". I agree, this is just what the US needs to continue to push down marathon times. If we want to contend for medals and wins, our marathon times need to be in the 2:07/2:08 range.

From James on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 23:44:32

I am interested to see if it will really help, or if they soften up again when they only get 40 guys in the 2012 trials. I like the idea of raising the bar, but last time the result was a B standard because the bar was a bit too high. I think you will be where you need to be in 4 years though.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 10:30:27

Interestingly, in 1984 the standard was 2:19-ish, and 200 people qualified.

From Sean on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 16:04:07

While I generally agree with the changes and with Paul’s sentiments, keep in mind that Brian Sell would not have qualified for the 2004 Trials under these new rules. His 2004 qualifying time was 2:19:59. So you’re looking at a guy who is now an Olympian who may have never kept running had the time been cranked down to 2:19. My only worry is that this could limit the talent pool in American running and maybe put us back to the dark years of the 90s. We should be doing everything we can to foster growth in the sport not limit it.

One other thought…this would also eliminate the Twin Cities Marathon which has hosted several US Marathon Championships including 2007 and 2008 and was the fourth largest source of of this year’s Trials qualifiers (14). They may end up exempting the course, but I don’t like a few guys determining which courses are OK and which aren’t Either go by the US/World-record standard or don’t.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 16:15:44

I have some of the same worries as Sean - I'm not convinced that this is all-in-all a good thing.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 16:27:19

In all honesty, somebody who cannot break 2:19 on a record eligible course, or demonstrate decent speed in a shorter race, has less chance of making the team than winning a lottery. That said, something needs to be done to nourish those runners, to give them something to strive for, to provide growth opportunities. Even if they themselves never break 2:20 with the best possible training, what they accomplish trying creates a heritage for their family, friends, neighbors, etc, and often results in somebody with more talent doing the same thing and becoming a sub-2:10 marathoner. If we want to see US dominate in the world marathon scene, we need to give as many US guys as possible a chance to lay everything on the line for a few years to try to reach their very best marathon performance. Keeping the OTQ standards low accomplished that to an extent in a weird way by giving non-Olympic caliber performances the pre-Olympic glory, which rings a bell with the American public. I did not like that substitute, I like to keep things honest. The Soviet Union recognized the need and accomplished this in its own weird way by providing under-the-table support to a large variety of athletes in different forms - e.g a guy would be officially a full-time factory employee, but he would only come to get his pay check, and his real job was to train and to race. I do not like this setup either due to its under-the-table nature.

But we do need something straight and honest to support the striving athletes. We as a nation have plenty of money, a lot being wasted, the problem is to convince those who have it to invest it properly. The key would be educating the public about the sport and its benefits. All of us on FRB can do our part.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 17:54:02

I was thinking that about Twin Cities as well. I guarantee they will exempt it, along with NYC and Boston, but Sean raises a good point about "validity" of courses being declared by a few people.

Sasha's sentiments are similar to many put out on the LetsRun thread (with less swearing). I agree that there needs to be increased incentives for the 2:20-2:25 crowd. At the same time, in 1984 over 200 people qualified with a standard of 2:19:03 (or something like that). Why can't we do that again? Why can't 2:19 become the new 2:22? It will take continued growth of grassroots programs to do this, though, and ways to pump money into the sport. Perhaps putting increased emphasis into National Championship races (which have much lower time standards) could help. It should be an interesting 4 years.

From Sean on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:08:02

One other note I made elsewhere...Jason Lehmkuhle, the 5th place finisher and second runner-up in this year's Trials would NOT have qualified for the Trials under the new standard. His time in TC in 2006 was 2:19:03. He would have had to either appeal or run another race to qualify. My point I guess is that I hope we aren't raising the bar too quickly. As a country, we've had a couple good years and one great Trials. Perhaps we should get a few more under our belt before we start dismissing the Brian Sells (3rd place) and Jason Lehmkuhles (5th place). In fact, if you go back to 2004, Trent Briney is the poster child for "sub-elites" who can do something special. He qualified in a time of 2:21:10 and finished in 4th place that year in a truly remarkable time of 2:12:35. He was one second per mile away from being an Olympian. The bigger question for me is which does more damage to the sport: having "too few" in the Trials or "too many."

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:44:18

Sean - actually Lehmkuhle WOULD have qualified with his half marathon time at Houston. And it's hard to say if Sell or Briney would have made it or not. I imagine a 2:19 standard would have influenced all of their decision-making and training in the years preceding the trials. Hard to say.

Arguably, there may have been some 2:22:10 guy out there who could have busted off a 2:15 at trials. Or everyone who tried to qualify at Chicago this year. But they never got the chance either. Wherever you draw the line, it is still a line that includes some people and excludes others.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 13:45:57

Brian Sell would have qualified with his 1:03:53 half. Trent Briney would have been very close with a 1:05:04 half, and had he known that a sub-1:05 half would qualify him, he would have raced enough of those in good enough conditions to actually break 1:05.

If I ran some weird insurance against surprise performance business when I had to pay $1 million dollars for every serious marathon breakthrough (e.g a 2:19 or slower guy running 2:12), I would most definitely hedge my bets with a small print clause that would exclude the guys who have run a sub-28:30 10 K or a sub-1:05 half.

USATF has placed the dagger in the right place, right in the heart. Those amazing marathon breakthroughs we have seen are merely the result of a guy with speed starting to train properly for endurance. I do not know of any precedents of a guy without speed getting enough of it to be world-class competitive. This is not to say that such runners should give up hope, or that it is right to pass degrees to label them as perpetual losers. Rather, this is to show that USATF chose a path of lesser resistance - focus on those who will most definitely have a shot if they just apply the very well known training methods. This requires absolutely no investment into the sport on their part - just pick up the low hanging fruit of the talent pool. I want to see something different. How about a real challenge? Can you take a guy that has no natural speed on the surface, dig deep, and help him develop it?

From Sean on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 16:41:29

But if all we're looking for is 10-20 guys who can run sub 2:15 then let's set the bar there or even at the 2:14 olympic qualifying mark? Why bother with the rif raf who run a pedestrian 2:15? If the Trials is only about selecting the top three runners, then run the 10 fastest guys and take the winners from there. No need to put on a big show. No need to pay for a bunch of pedestrians to come run your marathon. Security is easier. Let Brian, Jason and Trent and all those like them "earn" their spot into the Trials by being a Top 10 US marathoner before they can have their shot at glory.

The problem with picking any time is that it's arbitrary and now the arbitrary shrunk this year's field by half.

I'm a marketing guy. If I'm the marketing guy for USATF, do I want 40-50 guys running down Times Square at 7:35 in the morning or do I want 100 or 150 or even 200 of the country's fastest marathoners on that TV screen? What is better for the sport? I know they would love to have the entire Trials boradcast on TV. That will not happen if the elite pool gets smaller and smaller. It's not good TV.

One other thought...does everyone remember that spread in Runner's World on all the no-names who qualified for the Trials and their stories? That was far more inspiring and better for the sport than the pages which preceded it about the guys favored to win.

For the average marathoner, qualifying for Boston is the ultimate goal. For the elite or sub-elite, it's the Olympic Trials. What will never be known is how many of this country's future distance just got cut out of the picture by this decision.

I just don't see the harm in leaving the bar at 2:22 for another Olympic cycle until we are more certain that the US actually has a decent pool of marathoners that *might* break the top 10 in the world.

From Sean on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 18:23:57

So I just did some math and measuring and it would appear that TC may actually qualify under the new standard. Assuming they measure the 30% as the crow flies, my calculations have the start at 7.67 miles from the finish which is less than the 7.86 allowed. That's likely not an accident. BTW...the allowed drop appears to be 138.4 feet. Is there even a one-kilomter stretch on the back half of st. george that would meet the new standard?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.008.000.000.000.0015.00

Big Workout. 15 miles with 8 mile MP tempo and 10x100m strides. Nice day, over 40 degrees and some sun. I did the Millville Hill Loop (now wish I didn't). I warmed up for three miles and then started the tempo.

MileSplit
Comment
1 5:20rolling
2 5:24 3/4 downhill, 1/4 uphill
3 6:25 all uphill
4 6:001/2 uphill, 1/2 flat
5 5:37 1/4 uphill, 3/4 downhill
6 5:15 all downhill
7 5:161/2 downhill, 1/2 flat
8 5:25rolling, gradual uphill

It went well except for the uphills and also had some stomach issues that caused for to stop for short amounts of time at 2 miles and again at 4 miles. Not good. But the last 4 miles I got into a pretty good rhythm and worked through the stomach issues. I will not do this route again for a tempo for a few weeks. I need to get stronger first. The Millville Hill just killed me. But the workout is in the books at least. Only 9 more Big Workouts until Houston. Every one makes me stronger, right? 6:10/mile average pace for the run.

 

(Elite: 154 miles)

Comments
From Annie on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 15:58:36

NIce workout. Btw my first though about the new standards was, "at least paul will be fine."

From James on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 16:10:33

We must not live very close to each other, because it was freezing this morning and I haven't seen the sun all day.

Nice workout. Some of us understand the pain of that run. I am always amazed at how fast you whip that thing out, even with stomach problems. You're the man!

From James on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 16:14:01

That comment was from the real James. I forgot that we have yet another James on the blog who hasn't put an initial with his name.

From Jon on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 16:59:57

James- you should notify the other James that he needs an initial. And it is funny that Paul had sun but you didn't, since people always think of Logan as the cold, cloudy spot.

Paul- which hill do you call the Millville hill? The one coming north from 300 S?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 17:10:32

Jon - What I call "Millville Hill" is what you up as you go east toward the bench, then turn left where the road T's (going right will take you to the Deerfence Trail). It is about 1.5 miles long, then levels out until Providence, then I go up again for about a third of a mile until Spring Creek Rd. Then blessed downhill.

From Jon on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 17:16:44

Got ya. So it is gradual at first, then a bit of fairly steep, then flat, then gradual up again.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.000.000.000.000.0016.00

AM - got up and stumbled/ran to the gym in the dark, and then did treadmill for about 40 minutes at just under 7:00/pace. HR was pegged at around 150, probably because it is very warm in the gym. Stumbled home, and then around the block with the dog. 7 miles total for the morning. Took a righteous nap afterward for 1:15:00, which is a good time for me. Heh heh. As my mileage gets back over 90 and 100, I need to be disciplined enough to take lots of naps. That means good time management.

(1120: 403 miles)

noon - easy 9 miles on the Landfill Loop.

(Triax: 315 miles)

Comments
From Scott Zincone on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 11:46:53

I can see it now. A "Napping Board" will soon be added to the blog in addition to the "Mileage Board". Bloggers will be sneaking as many naps as possible each day to stay on top.

From Clay on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 13:20:42

Paul, an hour nap! what the hec! Try and get an hour nap with 5 kids. It ain't going to happen, not for me anyway.

Nice stumbling workout too.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 13:54:22

I would be all for a napping board. My goal is to get 7 hours of naps/week, and content for first place consistently. The so-called "8th night" of sleep can be a big difference-maker.

Clay - it definitely helps to not have any kids! My dog was around, but he just took a nap in the hallway outside my room at the same time.

From wheakory on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 13:57:58

Paul what time do you usually get up in the mornings to run? It must be early if you take a nap afterwards.

Nice TM work.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 14:05:38

Kory - if I get up at 6AM, I can be done with my shorter morning run by a little after 7PM. After I dress and eat breakfast, that gives from my 7:30AM-8:30AM to nap, and I'm at work before 9AM.

From josse on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 14:57:11

I like this idea and I am so glad you guys talk about napping, I use to feel soooooooooooooo guilty for taking a nap.

But as much as we beat our bodies up and the hours we get up to do this beating naps are a must.

From wheakory on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 16:35:12

Paul, That's a great schedule. When I've had the time to nap I really notice the difference in running. But lately I haven't been taking naps. I agree that it's part of your training to nap.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 18:11:38

I have added the Sleep/Nap Board to my TODO list.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.000.000.000.008.00

Easy 8 miles this morning, just around town. Slow. I wish the weather would stay like this all winter!

(Adrenaline blue: 448 miles)

Comments
From Cody on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 09:58:06

Enjoy it while it lasts. It is supposed to snow again by Friday morning.

From Stacy on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 20:01:17

I'm okay with snow. It's cold that I can't handle. Oh, and ice, I don't like the ice, either.

From David on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 23:38:20

Here's one not to like: floodwaters. It poured poured poured here Sunday-Monday-Tuesday. My basement flooded Monday and I've been working 12+ hour days covering it. So I've missed a few runs. (The basement is ok now though.)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
8.000.006.250.750.0015.00

Big Workout today.10x1000m @ CV pace, plus 6x200m strides @ 3k pace. 200m rest between intervals (~1 minute). Warmed up for a couple miles, then stopped at home to change into my flats, and continued over to the LHS track (which was gleefully empty, one good thing about December).

IntervalSplit
1 3:05
2 3:07
3 3:09
4 3:09
5 3:08
6 3:08
7 3:08
8 3:09
9 3:07
10 3:06

The first four 200's were 34 seconds, the last two were high 33's.

This workout rocked me pretty hard, but I was glad to complete it and get it under my belt. My goal pace was actually 3:03/K, but since I didn't come close on any interval, perhaps my CV pace should be re-assessed. Maybe at sea level I could have done it. On the positive, this is the most 1K intervals I've ever done, and probably the fastest too. It just seemed like a poor workout at first because the bar was set a bit high, but I'm happy with it now. Sure hurt though. My calves started getting sore after the 6th interval, and are still sore now. I think it's just growing pains to getting back into harder workouts and wearing flats again. Also, my form felt sloppy, and I'm still carrying about 3 extra pounds from post-Trials slacking and Thanksgiving/vacation eating. My body will reach its "high-mileage equilibrium" in a couple weeks, and I think that will help.

Cooled down afterward, then stopped back at home, showered, and got in 00:40:00 of napping. Time to get back to work!

(Elite: 160 miles)

Comments
From wheakory on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 17:07:58

Very tough workout that deserves a nap. From looking at your training your doing two hard workouts a week, and a long run with Tempo miles, and then of course easy runs? If I'm wrong I apologize. Great structured training is going to make you shine in Houston.

From James on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 19:56:14

Wow! You are showing big improvement still. I remember you doing more like 7-8 1K intervals, and all of them were a bit slower like 3:10-3:12.

From Dustin on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:26:34

Great workout

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.000.000.000.000.0016.00

AM - 0.5 miles with the dog, then 0.5 miles to the gym, 5.5 on the treadmill, and 0.5 home. A little misty, but not raining at the time. On tv, it looked like the Wasatch Mnts were getting hammered. Calves are still a little sore from yesterday.

(Adrenaline blue: 455 miles)

Napped for 01:04:00 after my morning run.

PM - easy 9 miles on the Landfill Loop. Snowing, but not sticking (yet). 7:10/mile pace. Ave HR 141.

(1120: 412 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
15.003.000.000.000.0018.00

Long run. Ran the TOU course backward to the Hollow Rd./Blacksmith Fork intersection and back. Did the first 12 miles easy, then 3 miles of tinman tempo, then 3 miles of cooldown with 10x100 strides. Tempo miles were 5:45, 5:48, 5:39. The first mile was largely the stretch along Hwy 165, the second mile included the long uphill through Millville, and the third mile finished off the uphill and started the downhill into Providence. Weather was nice for first half, but then I hit a nasty, cold canyon wind near Blacksmith Fork (I forgot about those), and was very grateful to turn around at halfway to get a tailwind and the slight downhill. By Providence it started snowing pretty good. I felt tired the whole run, and was quite glad to be done. 6:47/mile average pace for the run. 93 miles total for the week, 101 scheduled for next week.

I am reviewing the Nike Sport Kit + Nano thingy, so today I was techno-runner. I wore an iPod and a Garmin, plus had the food pod thingy in my shoe. I wish I could keep the Nano; it's pretty darn cool. It's amazing how many songs you can listen to during a 2-hour run. I got through most of Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream (good running album), U2 Pop, Glen Phillips Mr. Lemons, and part of the Wailin' Jennys Firecracker. Definitely beat running by myself in the cold, wind, and snow.

(Triax: 333 miles)

Comments
From Michelle on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 13:31:31

So what did you think of the nike thing? That's what I use every day, I know it's not as sophisticated as the garmin, but it seems to work for me.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 13:48:27

Michelle - I still need to calibrate it, so I won't know for sure until I do that. I like the idea, and it's easy to use. And it's world's cheaper than any other kind of speed/distance device, so I think it's an incredible value for what it does. (assuming you already own a Nano and a pair of Nike+).

From Stacy on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 17:01:45

Maybe you'll just have to buy your own Nano (although I do realize that that requires giving up a couple massages).

From MichelleL on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 17:08:08

I love my Siamese Dream album. Smashing Pumpkins rock! Good job on your tempo miles uphill, that's tough stuff.

From Cody on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 17:08:20

There you go Jon - Proof he owns Nikes. I can't believe he switched to the dark side. (I swear I don't have 3 well-used pairs of Nikes in my garage)

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 17:20:33

beh...I've been buying Nikes since the Air Pegasus back in the early 90's. There is no "switch" to talk about. Right now I've got the Structure Triax and the Elites. I really like both. I've also got a pair of Montrails, a pair of New Balance, a pair of Asics, a pair of Brooks, a pair of Sauconys, and two more pairs of Brooks a another pair of Saucony on the way. But if someone asked me my true favorite shoe brand, I would have to say Birkenstock!

From Cody on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 17:31:00

Wow! I stand corrected. You are the most UN-LOYAL shoe wearer ever.

I like Ecco's. They are the most comfortable dress shoe ever.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 17:37:02

Dress...shoe...? What's that?

From Cody on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 17:47:44

Its these fancy things that your wife makes you wear to church when your birks are missing....or don't own any.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 18:05:25

Oh, you mean my Keens. They're good for weddings too.

From Logan on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 18:28:59

Great week Paul. You are ready to go for the Houston half marathon. I got all of your running gear and all the Logan guys racing team stuff from Clyde. I will have Katey drop them off at your house on Monday or Tuesday next week when she comes up.

From Jon on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 18:32:37

Don't tell Paul, but I own a pair of Nike Elite's, too, and like them. I also own Saucony (2), Brooks, NB (3), and Mizuno.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 18:38:38

Logan - awesome, thanks!

Jon - Nike

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.000.000.000.000.007.00

Easy 7 miles on Planet Walk and USU track (was calibrating Nike Sport Kit). Slippery out today. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 460 miles)

(Triax: 335 miles)

******************

Packers win the NFC Norse. Lions do us no favors.

 

Comments
From James on Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 13:32:19

Are you still testing and reviewing gadgets these days?

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 15:14:56

James - yes.

From Mike Warren on Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 17:09:15

Paul, Great job in the Trials!! Thanks for your great articles in your blog, They are so helpful to someone new to running like me. I have been trying to get my miles to 70-80 a week and your article on running a 100 in a week gave me some very good tips. Is there any advice you could give me on running the Ogden Marathon? Thanks again.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 17:49:25

Thanks Mike. If you plan on getting your miles up to 70-80, just take your time and do so gradually. No need to make the jump in a week or two, but rather over a few months. For Ogden, you will need the ability to both handle lot of downhill pounding, and also the ability to hold down a pace over rolling hills (since the course has both types of terrain). Try to get in one downhill workout per week, and also do lots of 6-8 mile tempo runs on rolling hills. I've found that incorporating tempo runs into your long runs helps develop a lot of marathon-specific endurance too. For instance, rather than doing a 20-miler at a slow pace, do the first 10 mile easy, then 8 miles of tempo, and then then cool down for a couple miles. It will radically change your fitness! All these things should be built up to slowly though. Good luck.

From Mike Warren on Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 23:00:57

Thanks for the advice, I hope Ogden is my BQ! I had it in the bag at St. George until Knee problems at mile 16.(The big drop past Diamond Valley). I had surgery for a cartlidge tear last October. Thats what got me running because my Doc said you will never run long distance, now i am hooked! I have been running between 40-45 per week with no speed work. My goal is to be to 70 per week with 2 days of speed work by the end of Jan. That will give me 16 weeks of 70-80 miles before Ogden. Is that too much of a build in that amount of time?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:18:21

Mike - try increasing your mileage every OTHER week by 5 miles. So by the end of December, you should be around 55 mpw, and by the end of Jan around 65-70. I think that would be pretty safe.

From Mike Warren on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:36:41

Thanks Paul, I will stick to that schedule!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
7.008.000.000.000.0015.00

Big Workout. 8 mile MP tempo, with 10x100m strides at the end. 15 miles total. Today I tried a new loop: the Hyde Park Hill Loop. It starts out on my Logan Loop, then I cross Main by Iggy's, then turn left on 800 N, and take that road to Hyde Park. Then a right onto the main road there, up the hill (a mile long), and then back south on 1600 N, at which point the route merges with my North Logan -USU-Boulevard Loop. So perhaps a better name for this new loop would be the "Logan-Hyde Park Hill-North Logan-USU-Boulevard Loop. But I'll stick with "Hyde Park Hill Loop", because it has a really stinkin' big hill in Hyde Park. Or maybe "Loop of Pain". I thought this route might be easier than my Millville Hill Loop, but it was in fact harder.

Warmed up for 4 miles, then started the tempo.

Mile SplitTerrain
1 5:39rolling
2 5:44rolling; more uphill than down
3 6:54um...BIG uphill.
4 5:18blissful downhill
5 5:47rolling; last bit of uphill
6 5:28net dowhill
7 5:36flat
8 5:41 mostly down; traffic stops

It was an okay workout, but not my best. The Hyde Park Hill makes Millville Hill look like a loser. I've ran down this hill many times, back when we would do long runs from Ben's house in North Logan, but never up. I'd rather go down. The last half of the tempo felt pretty good. The last mile was going through USU campus, so I had to slow down through the traffic light on 800 N, and then took the steep paved trail down from campus, which slowed things down too, because it was too steep. But another workout is in the bank.

Took a 00:45:00 power nap afterwards.

(Elite: 175 miles)

 

Comments
From dutch on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 11:19:24

mmmm....power nap...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
16.000.000.000.000.0016.00

AM - morning treadmill routine. 7 miles total. I just got my FRB/St. G Running Center Team gear (thanks Steve and Sasha), so I wore one of the shirts over to the gym, and then made sure there were people in the row of treadmill behind me who could see the shirt, and therefore join the blog. I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

Napped for 01:10:00 before going to work.

(Adrenaline blue: 467 miles)

PM - 9 mile out-and-back to the River Trail from work. Cold, but tolerable. I did further testing of the Nike+iPod thingy while listening to a "This American Life" podcast. Now that the foot pod is calibrated, it was within 0.01 mile of my Garmin's measurement. Not bad for a $30 gadget. I felt really good during the run, and was fueled by injustices exposed by Ira Glass and cohorts. Averaged 6:44/mile for the run.

(Triax: 344 miles)

*********************

Alright, all this talk about pink shorts for the racing team got me all worked up. So I decided that we needed a simulation to see how it would look in action.

Go pinky!!

Comments
From Cory on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 14:33:20

As a relatively new FRB'r, I really enjoy following your training efforts and appreciate reading the suggestions you offer.

As best I can tell, I am the sole member of the Houston chapter of FRB. If you need anything (e.g., Garmin file of the half course; photos of course, etc.) in advance of your January effort, please let me know. I'd be happy to help out since I'm already here on the ground and this is where I run and live.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 21:44:32

Cory - thanks. Once I get closer to the race, I may take you up on the Garmin file offer. Are you running the Houston Half or Marathon?

From James W on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 23:47:40

AAARGH! Make it go away! Did you put this on the discussion board too? Gotta make sure pink shorts James sees this one . . .

From Bethany on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 00:07:21

Have you hit up Sasha for a nap log? I love how you blog your nap times as well.

From Jon on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 00:33:05

My wife just called you a nerd, with this Sasha running picture.

From josse on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 00:52:12

Maybe just for the girls.

From Cory on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:04:37

The plan was to run the marathon here in Houston. However after St. George, I increased the mileage and intensity of my workouts which I theorize led to my current ITB problem. I finally shut it down for a couple weeks and just started back very slowly last week. I'm still not 100%.

I considered dropping down to the half but based on my current training decided I wouldn't be ready for Houston the way I'd like to be. Therefore, I'll be on the sidelines for this one. Hope to cheer for you and my local running buddies.

From Daniel on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 10:23:27

I vote no for anything pink for the men.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 10:49:26

Jon - at least I'm not a geek.

From wheakory on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 16:20:31

Hot pink wow would we really stand-out (I don't think so).

Paul I'm curious with your testing of the Nike+iPod would you recommend it over the Garmin? I don't know if you've done enough testing to decide this or not.

From Cody on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 16:24:40

Nothing is wrong with being a Geek or a Nerd....I think...

From Superfly on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 16:30:16

Classic! But I'm out on the pink.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 16:33:38

Kory - comparing Nike+iPod to the Garmin 205/305 is like comparing apples to oranges. I don't really consider them competitors, as they work differently and do different things.

From James on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 16:49:37

If I were a nerd or a geek I would I done the same thing. I hope you don't mind that I stole it for my own blog!

Clyde,

If you really don't like hot pink than we could do tiger stripes like the Superfly Jimmy Snuka.

From Aaron on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 17:13:05

Morning naps are so excellent. Out and back by 6:15, 45-minute snooze on the couch, then at work by 8:00--gotta love it, man.

From MichelleL on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 17:54:00

I agree on the morning nap, much better than an afternoon nap, though I'll take them when I can get them.

I prefer the blue over the pink, but wearing both looks horrible - they clash.

I prefer the geek to the nerd, but both rule the world.

From sarah on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 21:15:41

Did you see the Christmas Elf that Ted made out of Sasha...all I can say is that you guys think alike...we got a good laugh out of it thanks...next it will be Sasha action figures.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 21:25:44

Sarah - no, I haven't seen Ted's Christmas elf. Pretty funny stuff though.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
14.000.000.000.000.0014.00

AM - easy 6 miles in the dark. Very cold this morning. 7:40/mile average pace. The highlight of this run was wearing brand spankin' new Adrenalines with brand spankin' new Powerstep inserts. And not just any Powersteps, but the Powerstep Pinnacles. It's the orthotic used by kings and other nobility. Oh yeah, I'm living large!

(Adrenaline: 6 miles)

PM - easy 8 miles on Landfill Loop. A bit warmer out now, and I had a good run. Listened to a This American Life podcast about summer camp, which was entertaining. 6:39/mile average pace.

(Axiom: 8 miles)

Comments
From Superfly on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 10:57:06

I had the honor of touching those on their journey north. I'll never wash my hands again.

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:03:45

Later today: debut of the Axioms. Can't wait.

From Jon on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:19:34

Powerstep Pinnacles. Blah. Never heard of em.

From Annie on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:27:53

Does that mean you are now a king? King Paul. Has a nice ring to it dontcha think?

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:57:13

Annie - If not a king, maybe at least a duke or jack, or some sort of joker.

Jon - don't worry, there's no electronics in them. No reason to be suspicious.

From Annie on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 13:27:54

I could see a joker... for sure, or a court garbage man ;)

From Clay on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 16:13:07

I loved the simulation of the FRB running shorts, excellant!!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
9.000.006.000.000.0015.00

Big Workout. 6x1-mile on the road @ LT pace, 1/4 mile recovery between intervals. I did the workout on the Young Ward-ICON Loop, which is as close to flat as we get around here. It started snowing before my run, and the roads were pretty wet. Cold and snowy is not my ideal running environment, but does it matter? I guess not. Warmed up for two miles and then started the intervals.

 IntervalSplit
 1 5:07
 2 5:13
 3 5:10
 4 5:14
 5 5:10
 6 5:14

Considering the weather and road conditions, I'm pretty happy with this workout. I hit a slight headwind on intervals 3 and 4, but then had nice conditions for 5 and 6, except on the 6th interval, my route turned onto a gravel road that was snow-covered and slick...and gravel. I think that last interval was worth a 5:10, but the effort was there, which is was matters.

My calves, especially the left one, got really sore after the 4th interval, probably due to wearing flats for a long period of time. The same thing happened last week, so hopefully my body will start adjusting. Maybe I should wear flats twice per week for more exposure. My cooldown was kind of pathetic, since I was so sore. But another quality day is in the books.

 

 

Comments
From MichelleL on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 19:01:43

Good job on these, Paul. Do you do mile repeats at faster paces with more rest, or do you think the LT and 1/4 mile rest is the better workout for a marathoner? In college we did more of a 10K goal pace, 800m rest, workout, but that is 10K training.

The Competitive Runner's Handbook has 3 mile repeat workouts in their 16 week "sample" training schedule for "local champions"--admittedly not as good as you 2:49 marathon for men, 3:05 for women--but that's the most elite schedule they provide). These three mile repeat workouts have a pace range of faster than 5K to 10K at the slowest, so all faster than LT. Thanks!

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 20:19:44

Michelle - First off, this workout was prescribed by my coach, so he would have a better answer!

But even if I was making my own workouts, I wouldn't give myself more than 400m recovery for any sort of intervals. LT is the slowest pace I'll do mile repeats at, and the slower the pace generally the shorter the recovery should be. That insures you stay in the "LT" zone for a larger percentage of the workout. In fact, I think 200m (1:00) rest can is good for a lot of LT intervals.

I'll do mile repeats at CV pace (roughly 12K pace) or up to 10K pace usually only during tapers. I rarely run any type of interval faster than 10K pace, aside from 200m strides. But even at these faster paces, I think more than 400m rest is too much.

I personally don't see any need for a marathon specialist to do intervals any faster than 10K pace. Usually CV pace is the fastest I go for anything. CV is a great pace, because it simultaneously developed LT and V02Max, so you kill two birds with one stone. I think marathon pace and sub-marathon pace tempos will give a marathoner the best return on investment. If I had to choose between long tempos vs. intervals, I'd pick the tempos.

From Brent on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 23:01:59

Paul, interesting read on your answer to MichelleL. I have a little different problem being an older runner. Some weeks I can handle only one harder workout and I do want to get the most bang for the buck (speed and speed endurance?) If I understand your answer, CV workout preferred over tempo in my case? Also, I am in a base building phase right now trying to build to 70 miles consistenly per week. Your opinion would be appreciated.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 23:32:37

Brent - my take is that you should always choose the slower pace and longer distance when you are forced to choose. Anaerobic training should go into the bag only after the aerobic training potential is close to being exhausted.

Regarding age - it is a popular belief that as you get older you lose your speed more than you lose your endurance. However, I wonder if it is the case.

Check out

http://www.usatf.org/statistics/records/masters_outdoorTF.asp

Payton Jordan was a 10.3 100 m sprinter in his youth. By the age of 61 he slowed down to 11.8, or approximately 24 seconds per mile. The American record in 10,000 meters in that age division is held by Clive Davies, and is only 35:19.8, or slower than 5:40 mile pace. I am not sure how fast he was when he was younger, but probably he could do at least 5:00 pace for a 10 K off the same training. At least there were many masters runners who could have run a sub-30:00 10 K that do not hold that record, and therefore were slower than him at that age.

From Dave Holt on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 09:33:13

Paul, great stuff - I learn a lot by looking at your workouts and then reading why you do them. I need to get more technical on my training, but it seems most books and articles don't point me in the right direction (Michelle's book as an example); so do you have any recommendations on things I should read to get a little better direction in my workouts?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 13:04:08

Brent - I agree with Sasha in that if you have to choose, endurance is more important that speed. I think one can become remarkably fit by doing slower tempos, what I've been calling "tinman tempos". I would describe it as "brisk" running. You can do it several times/week, and recovery quickly.

A lot of people can handle just one hard workout per week. Try this: alternate weeks doing long tempos and CV intervals. Do these Big Workouts on Tuesday or Wednesday. Then do a long run on Saturday or Sunday that you treat as a progression run (start out slow and work your way up to marathon pace). Everything else should be easy; maybe throw in 6x100m strides during some of the easy runs for form. This will give you two fairly high quality (but not overwhelming) workouts, and plenty of recovery time. Doing CV every other week should provide enough stimulus to keep those systems growing, but in the meantime you will be developing endurance with your tempos and long runs.

Regarding your 70mpw base, it looks like you are already there. Try incorporating the workout ideas above in distributing the mileage to optimize both growth and recovery. For example:

Sunday: 8 miles very easy

Monday: 8 miles easy, 6x100m strides

Tuesday: 13 miles total with 6 miles of tempo OR 13 miles total with 6x1000m @ CV + 2 miles of tempo afterward

Wednesday: 7 miles easy

Thursday: 10 miles easy; 6x100m strides

Friday 8 miles easy

Saturday: 16 mile progression run. Start at easy pace and finish at marathon pace.

Total: 70 miles

This is just an example, and everything can be switched however you want it, but the general point is to do more mileage on your workout days and treat the other days as recovery.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 13:11:59

Dave - Just about everything I do is influenced by Tom "Tinman" Schwartz (especially now that he is coaching me). I would suggest reading anything he has written:

http://therunzone.com/index1.php

Also, good stuff by Tinman on this message board:

http://therunzone.com/VB/forumdisplay.php?f=3

As far as "classic" reads go, I think the best, most comprehensive book out there is "The Lore of Running" by Tim Noakes. Read this if you can read nothing else. Daniels' "Running Formula" one of the most influential books out there, and is a "must read" for coaches and people trying to train themselves. Pfitzinger's "Advanced Marathoning" is pretty good, but is similar to Daniels.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

Big zero for today. Around 7PM last night I was just sitting there, feeling perfectly fine, and then within an hour I was sick with the beginnings of a cold. Today I have a sore throat, congestion, and general lethargy. I have definitely felt worse, just a garden-variety cold, but I put myself in self-quarantine and stayed home today. In a small office like ours, there no need to risk getting everyone else sick, especially when I can remote-desktop to anywhere on our network and get work done if the need arises (I had to do this for a couple hours today). It's been a good day of rest, and also got a lot of work done on the FRB running resumes.

I thought about going for a run earlier on, but then emailed Coach Tinman, who told me just to rest until I am healthy again. Loss of fitness at the muscle level and of blood volume doesn't start for several days, he says. Therefore, I am better off just resting and getting healthy faster, and not risking prolonging the illness. On that note, it's so good to have a coach in my corner now so that I don't have to make these decisions myself. Before, I would probably be out running right now, out of obsessive-compulsive guilt, and doing my body more harm than good. But now I have someone I can trust just telling me what to do, and it takes a lot of weight off my shoulders so that I can focus on the actual running, and on other things.

So no 100-mile week for me this week, but it's just a number, right?

Comments
From jtshad on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 17:47:57

I hear you on the obsessive-compulsive need for miles...good to listen to your body and your coach. And, yes, it is just a number that at this time is just arbitary.

Have a great weekend and get better soon.

From James on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 17:53:15

Smart man this Tinman guy. It is nice to be able to do nothing once in a while and not feel guilty about it.

From James W on Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 23:42:34

Way to listen to your body, Paul. It's always a bummer when one gets sick, but letting your body focus all its energy on getting rid of the sickness is the best thing. Get better soon.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.000.000.00

No run again, still sick. I feel about the same as yesterday, but I imagine things will turn around by tomorrow. I got 12 hours of sleep last night, and will probably catch a nap or two today.

Comments
From David on Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 20:40:40

Way to hibernate.

From James on Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 21:43:29

I bet that beard tripled in length with 12 hours of sleep! I feel tons better today and will get back out on Monday. Get better yourself.

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Still get today, but starting to feel better. I decided to take one more day off, and will resume normal activity tomorrow.

Since I have all sorts of free time, being bored and all, I finally got around to posting some of my more recent thoughts and arguments regarding the new Trials standards on my blog.

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From Adam RW on Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 20:30:17

Good read Paul. For the most part it seems like your mind hasn't changed. I do like the end of the message of putting the responsibility in our hands. All too often in this country we like to complain about things happening to us without doing anything about it. The good thing is that in our country we can do something about it. Now if we can get a lot of people with your mentatility together we should be in great shape. "Us" (the FRB) being Hansons clones is a great start but I agree with you the thing that will help American distance running the most is getting the annual Championships some prestige. I'm still not sure I agree with you on the elimination of the B standard but not having been there I don't really know the "feel" of the day... Thanks as always for sharing your thoughts. -Adam

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Feeling a bit better today, but still have congestion and am developing a slight cough. Toward the end of today at work I was feeling a bit worn down too, but couldn't go home because a client was in town from Colorado to work with me. Will probably take some more time off work tomorrow.

Coach Tinman gave me an adjusted schedule for this week to slowly get back into running. 4 miles today, just did the out-and-back on the Planet Walk. 7:15/mile pace.

(Triax: 348 miles)

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From Jon on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 22:04:55

How the tinman thing going, anyways?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 22:14:08

Pretty good. He tells me not to run when I'm sick. I like that.

From Lybi on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 22:47:14

Of all the saddest things about missing out on Moab--I shall not taste a brurger...

Glad you're feeling better, Paul! Is this "THE" Tinman guy we've all heard about? Wow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
6.500.000.000.000.006.50

Easy run on the canal trail. Still coughing; congestion is getting better. I am taking part of the day off work, and will be working from my home office the rest of the time, so hopefully that will give me extra rest. Time for a nap.

My Wordpress blog has apparently caught the same virus I have. Something to do with the MySQL database. It worked one day, didn't work the next. I touched nothing. Beh. Hopefully tech support will sort it out. If it's down forever, I don't feel like rebuilding it again. 

(Adrenaline blue: 473 miles)

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From wheakory on Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 17:32:35

I would think they would do a Mysql dump on your database and it should be backed up along with increment backups.

I hope your body is getting the strength back in it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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I had a dental appointment, but my wife had the car, so I ran 2.5 miles to the dentist, then 2.5 miles back home, and then another 4 miles on the Planet Walk. Average pace was 7:21/mile. I'm feeling quite a bit better than yesterday, but still have some coughing and hacking. Congestion is quite a bit better.

(Elite: 184 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
12.500.000.000.000.0012.50

AM - ran to gym and did treadmill. 6.5 miles total. Health is much improved, but still coughing and hacking stuff up occasionally. If my energy level is still high this afternoon, I'll do another easy run.

(Adrenaline blue: 480 miles)

PM - got the urge to run again while walking home from work in the dark and snow. Called up Jon and met him at the Planet Walk; we ran the Planet Walk and then a loop on the golf course. Pretty good snow run. Distance is unknown, but I'm estimating it at 6 miles.

(Triax: 354 miles)

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From Annie on Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 14:19:05

you never get sick? At least you are doing better! Take er easy partner

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AM - 6.5 miles, Treadmill routine. Roads are very snowy.

(Elite: 190 miles)

PM - easy 6.5 miles; Planet Walk and misc. running around town. Colder today, but not too bad. 7:11/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline blue: 486 miles)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
13.500.000.000.000.0013.50

AM - easy 8 miles, on Providence Hill Loop. Listened to another This American Life podcast, about roadtrips. Very cold, and my beard completely froze over, which is appropriate for the first full day of winter. 7:12/mile average pace.

(Triax: 362 miles)

PM - easy 5.5 miles. Planet Walk, plus some distance with the dog. Didn't wear watch, but did break in my new Saucony Tangents.

(Tangent: 5 miles)
 

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From Stacy on Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:42:14

So, how warm does your beard keep your face when it's frozen over? Kind of defeats the purpose of growing the winter beard if you end up carrying a snot popsicle on your face during your whole run.

From Jon on Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:52:12

Snot popsicle- that is a nice mental image for me to have as I go on a run right now. 12 degrees outside here in Idaho right now. I think I will also end up with snot popsicle, but mine will be frozen directly on my face. Maybe a beard is a good idea.

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 13:05:11

Sometimes I doubt the power of the beard, but when I shave it I feel a very noticeable draft. So even with the frozen snot, it still keeps me warmer. Plus, as Jon said, it would be frozen directly to my skin anyway.

From James on Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 13:26:48

I had some good snotsicles on my face today, and every other kind of sicle. I looked like a snowman! I didn't shave all week so I had a little protection for my face. I did shave my face when I got home because my beard turns all raggedy, not cool looking like a Paul beard.

From James W on Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 00:00:16

I just love the mental image of the snotsicle! You have a pair of Axioms too, right? Do you have any comments regarding them?

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:07:41

James W - I've worn the Axioms once so far, but really liked them. Quite a bit lighter than the Adrenalines, but still offer a lot of stability.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Good news, I got my personal blog working again. Had to take an old MySQL backup and configure it to work with the new server. I lost a couple comments, but other than that it's all there. I also finally lost the horrible big toenail on my right foot, after over a year of trying, so that's even better news. Fresh starts all around.

To make myself feel better about the Packer loss, I posted some more inspiring quotes on my blog, this time all are by Vince Lombardi. Click here if you care. 

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AM - Easy 5 miles on a fresh new layer of snow. Didn't wear watch.

(Adrenaline blue: 491 miles)

PM - having seen enough of the Packers humiliating themselves (and their fans) in front of the Bears, I bailed on the game drove up to Green Canyon and did some XC skiing. Lots of people up there; nice to see the ski community out and about. For fun, I took my Garmin to see how fast I was skiing. First two uphill miles were 15:04 and 15:53. Then I turned around and went downhill. I'm not very good down hills on skinny skis and leather boots, but I managed to do some snow plowing and not bite it at all, which is important when there's a lot of other people out there. 8:01 and 8:11 on the downhill miles. 47:06 for the whole 4-mile trek. Green Canyon was really beautiful, with huge amounts of snow hanging from the trees. I may try the golf course by the Planet Walk later this week if we get some more snow.

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 18:27:09

Da Bears! Sorry Paul I couldn't help it!

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 19:18:21

Aaagh! The worst part was seeing so many happy Bear fans on TV. Happy Bear fans actually give me upset stomach. I had to get out of there.

From Neal on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 14:36:47

Give us Bear fans our moment in the sun. It's been a long season and we haven't had much to be happy about. Bring on the Orton era.

From Jon on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 15:00:31

How deep is the snow up GC? Is it run-able?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 16:56:30

Jon - I wouldn't run on it, but mostly because I don't want a pole through the eye from any angry skier. It's better to not mess up the corduroy. But there was about 18 inches of snow yesterday, and it's hammering right now too.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Workout today, of medium proportions, since I'm just returning from sickness. I did a hill fartlek on the Hyde Park Hill Loop. The idea was to hit 5K pace on shorter hills (<800m), LT pace on medium hills (800m-1600m) and MP on hills longer than a mile. Well, most hills out here are longer than a mile, so I was MP for most of the surges, but I got the other paces in a one point or another as well. 6 hills total. I just ran by feel and didn't pay attention to pace, since it's pretty meaningless to me going uphill anyway. Kind of a fun run, and weather was nice. My quads and hip flexors are sore from XC skiing yesterday, but I managed to cope.

(Elite: 203 miles)

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From Logan on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 17:11:57

Another nice workout. We could go for a easy run in the morning on Christmas day or on Wednesday. Earlier would be better since I will be shopping and doing other activities with the in-laws for most of the day. It should be fun running in the deep stuff. Let me know what works for you. I also have your racing shorts from the store.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 17:40:00

Logan - I'm doing easy runs on Christmas morning and on Wednesday, so either or all work great for me. Tomorrow (Christmas) morning, I definitely want to go early to get the run out of the way, something like 8AM. Let me know via the blog, or give me a call.

From Jon on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 17:45:17

Hey, is it snowing there in Logan? Idaho Falls is getting pounded- 8 inches since 11 am.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 17:54:05

Yeah, but not snowing as hard as it was earlier.

From Jon on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 19:07:30

Merry Christmas to you and your family!

From Logan on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 20:10:42

8 in the morning should work tomorrow. I will come down to your house. I will call you if anything comes up.

From Paul Petersen on Tue, Dec 25, 2007 at 00:46:14

Logan - sounds good. I will be ready.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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Merry Christmas! I ran a little bit with the dog, and then Logan came by and we ran around Providence. We got about 8" of snow last night, so roads were not in good shape, and it was absolutely FREEZING. The bank by the Providence Stadium 8 said that is was 3 degrees. That digital sign always runs a bit on the low side, so it was probably more like 10 degrees out. Either way, my hands hurt by the end, and I had the full Frostillicus beard going. 7:45/mile average pace.

(Triax: 369 miles)

PM - Stacy and I went out in the afternoon and XC skied the Logan River Golf Course. Finally, a good use for golf courses. Snow coverage was good, and it was actually kind of run, skiing up and down the hummocky terrain. Skied the front 9 and crossed the bridge over the Planet Walk and tackled the back 9. Probably a couple miles total.

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From smally on Tue, Dec 25, 2007 at 16:06:08

Thanks Paul,

Glad you know the true value of Chiropractic. I have been blessed to raise a family with the Chiropractic way of life.

Its so nice to talk to someone that has such a talent in running, I will get my times down as I love running! Sub 3 here I come.

Merry Christmas

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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AM - easy 8.5 miles. Roads are still very snowy, and traction is difficult. I ran around town for a while, then did the Planet Walk, which hasn't been plowed yet, but has been packed down a little. 8:19/mile average pace.

(Adrenaline: 14 miles)

PM - I was sick of being cold every run and was craving a good sweat, so for the PM run I went to the gym and hit the treadmill. 7.5 total, with the run to and from the gym.

(Adrenaline blue: 499 miles)

Comments
From Logan on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 20:32:20

I am still in town until tomorrow morning if you want to go for a nice cold run. Let me know.

From smally on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 20:53:37

Hi Paul,

Tried sending a response but I am having trouble figuring this out, hope this works.

Glad you know that true value of Chiropractic.

Your an amazing runner, wow.

Todd

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 21:54:30

Todd - Thanks. I got your comments from yesterday. If you reply on your own blog, people who posted comments will receive an email notification with the reply, so usually just replying on your own blog works well.

I'll look forward to picking your mind whenever I have a biomechanics or nervous system-related question!

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 21:55:38

Logan - I'm planning 8x1000m sometime tomorrow. Morning works, but I'll wait until it's light out. Could be an interesting workout with the snowy roads. I'd welcome the company. Let me know your plans.

From Cody on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 22:13:48

Pretty sweet podcast! Mr. Famous runner guy!

From Logan on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 22:56:15

I don't know if the speed work would go to well with my body and it being sick. I forgot you were planning on speed work tomorrow.

From James on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:01:21

Logan don't be a wuss!

From Paul Petersen on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:52:24

Logan - don't worry about it, just take it easy. If it snows, I may end up on the treadmill anyway.

From Logan on Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:24:36

Thanks. I enjoyed the podcast on the Final Sprint.

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Bad day today. I had been experiencing some irritation since Tuesday in the vicinity of the ischium, but it was tolerable, not impacting my stride, and not getting any worse. Today it got worse, much worse.

I ran from work to the gym, warmed up a mile on the treadmill, and then started my 8x1000m workout. I chose the treadmill over the roads after a lot of internal debate. The basic reason was that the roads are so slick and snow-covered that trying to run a threshold-paced workout on it would have been futile, or even dangerous. I don't like the treadmill for hard workouts, but the mill is flat (uncrowned), snow-free, plus I rationalized I needed to get used to heat for the Houston race.

I cranked the puppy up to 12 mph for the interval portions, and ran that pace for 3:07...roughly a 1000m. Recovery intervals were just over a minute. Incline was set at 1% to help negate the lack of wind resistance. The first 4 intervals went pretty well. The 5th one had a little bit more pain, but nothing to worry about. But after the 6th one, I knew something was really wrong. I got off the treadmill, walked around a little bit, and got a drink of water. I then jumped back on the treadmill and tried to jog slowly. Not happening. I went from being able to hold 5-minute pace pretty easily to not even being able to jog at 9-minute pace, all within a few minutes.

I finished up the last two intervals on the elliptical, just tried to work hard for 3-minute durations. After that I changed and went back outside, tried to start jogging back to work. Still not going to happen. So I ended up walking the mile back to work (fortunately Logan is a small town, and I both work and live centrally).

For the rest of the afternoon, it just went from bad to worse. The pain had spread up my sartorius muscle (which attaches to the ischium, I'm told). It felt a little like the groin strain I had last year, but also a lot different. I was afraid I had a pelvic stress fracture, or something like that. It hurt to stand on my right leg when unsupported. It also hurt to raise my right knee while sitting or standing. An activity like putting on pants hurts a lot. Walking the half mile home from work also hurt a lot. My lifestyle relies on me being healthy and mobile, so something like this trickles down to my "commute" home as well.

I wanted to get this thing diagnosed, or at least a referral, just for peace of mind. I'm a bit obsessive that way. Plus, if I couldn't run Houston, I wanted to let the USATF people know asap, so they could give my spot and my funding to someone else. After dinner Stacy and I went to the IHC Instacare, which is open until 9PM. I don't really like my family doctor, so this is as good as any place for me. Waited half and hour (which what I have to wait when I make an appt for my family doctor), and then got to see the doctor.

I totally lucked out here. It turned out the doctor had a background in sports medicine, and she was pretty good. She thought that since the pain varied by what position I put my leg in, and since it came on quickly, it was probably not a stress fracture, and didn't recommend x-rays or anything fancy like that. She thought that it was more likely that the muscles in the area are messed up (my wording) and spasming (her wording), which was causing pain, inflammation, and weakness. Treatment: prescription-sized doses of OTC NSAIDS (which I have plenty at home), heat, and ice. I asked about deep massage, and she thought that could help as well, so I'll probably schedule an appointment soon with my LMT. Apparently inflammation is the big problem here, so the key will be to kill it. It probably wouldn't hurt to see my DC next week either.

If I can get rid of the pain enough to where I do a few short runs/day, I think I can maintain fitness and still run Houston. Elliptical can help too, but I need the pain to subside a little even for that.

My only theories on how this could have happened:

  • Responding poorly to activities I do not frequently do
    • XC skiing - went for the first time in two years on Sunday, then again on Tuesday. Perhaps something got pinched or torqued from the motions that my body is very much not used to. Pretty good timing correlation for this theory.
    • Running in the snow and ice. Probably a little less likely, but people do get injured more when running on slick surfaces. It throws the stride off, which can lead to all sorts of things. I first really noticed some irritation on Tuesday afternoon, and I had done my first run on snowy roads in a while on Tuesday morning.
  • Treadmill. Kind of the opposite of the snow/ice thing. Footing is good, but it does affect the stride and biomechanics. Injuries are known to happen from treadmill running. However, I've been doing treadmill running for a couple months now without any hint of discomfort, so I'm not too sold on this idea.
Anyway, hopefully the treatments plus relative rest will take of this. If it's NOT showing real improvement in a week, it will be time to see a specialist, and probably throw in the towel for a couple months.

Comments
From Cody on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 10:51:33

Yikes!

From David on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 10:57:57

You're freaking me out here Paul, take care of yourself.

From Little Bad Legs on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 12:50:08

Sorry to hear about your development. As one who has been injured more than I can count, I feel your pain. Listen to your body and good luck!

From Jon on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 13:08:56

Wow- hopefully your treatments fix this quick.

From Clay on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 13:11:12

Take time off dude, I kepted running on my injury back in july and it turned into a stress fracture, so be careful!!!

From ryan on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 18:10:39

sorry to here about the injury. could be overtraining but what do i know.

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Not much progress since yesterday. Still hurts to walk. Still hurts to dress myself (don't worry, I gritted through the pain and am wearing pants). At this pain level, I don't believe even cross training to be an option.

I'm sticking with the short course of ibuprofen (800mg, 3x day) and applying both heat and ice. I have a massage session scheduled for tomorrow morning. Hopefully my LMT can work her usual magic. She almost single-handedly cured my plantar fasciitis, and also increased the rate of healing on my groin strain last year, so I have reason to be optimistic.

Comments
From Logan on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 14:53:13

I am sorry to hear about this. I hope recovery goes well for you. If I can help with anything, let me know.

From Jon on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 15:37:07

How does a massage cure pf? Did she massage your feet?

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 15:59:00

Jon - Massaging the feet helped get rid of local inflammation (which really helps), but generally the root of PF is in the achilles and calves. She got very deep into all these areas. Basically increasing circulation, restoring elasticity to muscles, and unlocking muscles helps with speeding up recovery and also prevents recurrence. Also, a good full-body massage can help with overall biomechanics, which is a broader "cure" to a lot of running injuries.

From Superfly on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 16:06:42

Cross your fingers! That sucks man. I've done 2x a day ibuprofen but never 3! If that doesn't work it should do something else.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 16:25:35

If the ibuprofen doesn't work, I'll probably get a cortisone shot. But cortisone would also basically mean missing Houston for sure, since I wouldn't be able to do anything for about a week afterward. (my tendons would detach, legs fall off, and head explode, or something like that). We'll see. Houston is important to me, but it's only one race. The last time I checked, there will be other races held in other places next year.

From josse on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 18:42:17

Sorry to hear that your hurting. Sounds like you have a good plan of action and a good LMT so hopefully you'll be back soon. That area is a bugger.

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Since I can't register any miles today, at least I can enter sleep time!

Yesterday afternoon and evening, my groin got progressively better. I did a few heat/ice cycles at home, and that seemed to help quite a bit, and the meds were probably kicking in too. Wasn't really limping much by bedtime.

This morning, I heated the area in bed for about 20 minutes, then got up. It didn't feel as good as it did yesterday evening, but better than it did yesterday morning, making me think that it really is totally muscle-related and how it feels is a function of how warmed up it is. I managed to walk the dog and do errands without too much problem. At 11:30 I had my 2-hr full-body massage. As usual, it was really good. My LMT couldn't quite pinpoint the exact problem, but in any case it got the circulation going and when I got off the table (hard to do after 2 hours), it felt a fair bit better. And the rest of me feels wonderful. I'll continue with the ibuprofen, heat, and ice over the course of the day. We'll see how the progress goes. It's pretty simple: when the pain goes away I can run again; if it's still around I won't run. 

Comments
From josse on Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 16:52:03

You may have strained your lower attachment to you iloipsoas muscle, it attcaches on the lesser trochanter of the femur right next to the pecrineal line. from what you described, how it hurts and everything it sound like this could be it. But it's hard to tell. just a thought. But I would go to the chiro because your hips are probably off and contributing to the problem.

From James on Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 23:51:39

If I would have known you weren't running I would have invited you and Stacy up to the cabin with us, good times! I hope you get it taken care of soon.

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Groin only a little better today. Outlook is doubtful for New Years Run tomorrow. But I am pre-registered, so you better believe I'll still show up and wear the t-shirt with pride! And I can take on the support role and cheer Stacy on in her first 5K. And I can still consume lots of food. Like I said to Stacy the other day, there's too many other good things going on in my life to get down about running. I think I'm healthy enough for elliptical, so can at least stay fit on that until I work through this muscle strain. Nothing like elliptical two-a-days (whatever it takes).

One good thing that happened today is the Packers getting back on track and making roadkill out of the Lions.

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From brent on Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 17:41:07

Great attitude, can't keep a great runner down.

B of BS Rools out

From josse on Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 18:47:05

I like your attitude it's refreshing to hear someone so good at running can step back and look at the whole picture. Great job and speedy recovery because we still know what make the wheels go round.

From James on Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 19:09:09

I never got around to registering, but I might be in Ogden anyways so maybe I'll come watch. I guess I could always run bandit!

From Lybi on Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 19:13:40

Go Stacy!

Sorry about your injury Paul. I'm sure that you are going to avoid any long term effects by nipping this in the bud. The elliptical is going to come to fear you, I'd wager.

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 19:32:12

Lybi - the elliptical and I already have a history. It put a restraining order of at least 100 feet on me because I drip so much sweat.

From Mike Warren on Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 20:42:44

The Pack is back! You gotta love Favre, 150 years old and a Pro Bowl year!! Hang in there with the injury, everyone knows how frustrating it can be. You will be back stronger than ever. If Iam not mistaken, didn't you win your first marathon back from injury last time,"Ogden". Everyone better look out!

From Paul Petersen on Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 23:05:05

Thanks Mike.

“The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That’s real glory. That’s the essence of it“. — Vince Lombardi

From Scott Zincone on Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 23:14:51

The elliptical is still more entertaining than aqua jogging if you can listen to music or watch t.v. Unless you are lucky enough to have some bathing beauties to look at while in the pool. Unfortunately for me I am usually alone in the pool with nothing but the ceiling and walls to stare at.

Good Luck with the recovery.

From wheakory on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 01:20:49

Good luck to your wife Paul. Packers did look good, better than my Cowboys.

How did you injury your Groin? Have you had this injury in the past?

Best wishes to you Paul, and your right running isn't everything which I've come to realize.

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AM - Stacy dropped me off at the gym, and I did 30 minutes on the elliptical. It felt okay; a bit of tightness but not much pain. I will see how my body reacts, and if I'm feeling good I'll do another session during the noon hour. The walk home felt fine, probably because the muscle was warmed up.

noon -  my body seemed to be agreeing with the morning workout, so I went back to the gym during the noon hour and did another 30 minutes on the elliptical. Everything felt a little bit looser the second time around (to be expected). This time, I did 15 minutes easy, and then the last 15 minutes at the elliptical version of "marathon pace."

After the gym, I went to see my chiropractor. As Josse suggested, my sacrum was very much torqued and twisted. The DC thought that was causing a bit of tendinitis in a hamstring muscle where it attaches at the ischium. Being a chiro, he thought the whole problem was 100% mechanical in nature. If that is correct, then the solution should be purely mechanical as well, and a good adjustment should fix everything. I'll know more tomorrow, but my body moved like butter during the adjustment, and immediately afterward everything felt much better, especially at that muscle insertion point. I'm walking pretty good right now. I jogged across my office a little bit later in street shoes, and didn't feel any pain, also good. Obviously, the muscles themselves still have some residual inflammation and tightness, but perhaps the root of the problem has been fixed? I guess I'll have to wait and see how I feel tomorrow morning. It can be kind of deceiving, since I tend to feel better over the course of a day anyway from my muscles getting warm. So I may be having trouble filtering the effects of the adjustment from my normal daily pattern.

In any case, today has been good on all counts. Running might be an option tomorrow. I'll see the chiro again Wednesday.

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From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:36:18

Some thoughts on what happened. Probably a 1-2-3 punch. Some from running on ice without much time to adapt. Punch two from cross-country skiing again without much adaptation. Punch three was speed workout on the treadmill, and that was enough to undo the fine balance. My last injury (March-April 2005) came from the 1-2-3 pure stupidity punch. Punch one - 20x100 up Squaw Peak road (7% grade) in the rain. The road had a curve and skewed sideways. That got the gluts sore. Punch two - 20 mile run with a hard 12 mile tempo in the middle. Punch three - immediately after that run, no nap, helped somebody move and was lifting things that I should not have tried to lift alone even though they appeared manageable. Result - pinched nerve in the lower back, painful to walk, was down to 8 very painful miles a day for three weeks. Felt like screaming in the first 2 miles, then endorphines would kick it, and the pain would subside enough to where I was not limping too bad and could even run 6:30 pace.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:57:11

Sasha - I think you are right.

From josse on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 16:44:19

good to hear that the chiro helped, I would still expect to be sore with running due to how much pain you were in. Ice heat ice heat is what I would do expecailly after you do any type of exercise also I would also stretch both side, which I am sure you have been told but I'm telling you as well.

From James on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 17:14:41

Do you still go to Stucky?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 17:19:39

James - yes.

From Lybi on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 17:25:27

Excellent news, Paul! Just a warning--when something goes "out" badly with my back, I often have to get it adjusted more than once. Tense muscles pull it back the way it was. A heating pad has helped me "stick" after an adjustment, or even better--one of those adhesive heat patches that you stick on. They warm for 8 hours. Feels good, and you don't have to stay put while it works on you. You can get them at any place that has a pharmacy.

From James on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 17:31:36

The best thing after an adjustment is a 2 hour massage! Although, I have never had a massage longer than one hour, you have just told me how great they are. That reminds me, I need to set one up this week.

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